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even can conclus prove that unicorn exist anywher assum that god exist make assumpt cannot test cannot make exhaust search god prove that doesn exist anywher sceptic atheist assum default that god not exist sinc that assumpt can test profess strong atheism not claim that sort god exist gener restrict claim cover varieti god describ follow religion whilst imposs prove conclus that god exist prove that god describ religi book not exist even prove that god describ present dai religion exist practic believ that god describ religion exist close believ that god exist suffici that counter argument base imposs disprov kind god not applic god essenti detect god interact univers effect interact measur interact univers detect god essenti detect case that not interact univers atheist argu that god not interact univers import whether exist not bibl believ god easili detect israelit sure detect todai note that not demand that god interact scientif verifi physic sure perceiv effect caus presenc can distinguish thing that don exist you philosoph justif for atheism isn religi belief common pastim philosoph discuss redefinit game cynic view thi game follow person begin make contenti statement person point that can true person gradual defin word us statement arriv person prepar accept record statement fact that person agre and continu eventu statement agre fact origin definit word obscur redefinit origin need agre appar inconsist will tend plai point thi digress that answer question isn atheism religi belief depend crucial meant religi religion gener character belief superhuman control power sort god and faith and worship worth point pass that varieti buddhism not religion such definit atheism not belief sort superhuman power categor worship meaning sens widen definit religi encompass atheism result aspect human behaviour suddenli class religi such scienc polit and watch not religion sure belief atheism scienc act faith religion firstli not clear that sceptic atheism believ secondli adopt number core belief assumpt make sort sens sensori data experi atheist adopt core belief and even subject question experi throw into doubt scienc number core assumpt for exampl gener assum that law physic for observ sort core assumpt atheist make such basic idea call act faith almost base act faith and term lose mean faith us refer complet belief such definit atheism and scienc not act faith individu atheist scientist can dogmat religi follow claim that thi not gener tendenc atheist reluct state certainti that univers exist faith us refer belief support evid proof sceptic atheism doesn fit that definit sceptic atheism belief strong atheism closer doesn match even dogmat atheist will tend refer experiment data lack assert that god not exist atheism not religi sure anti religi unfortun human tendenc label for friend enemi truth not clear cut atheism posit that run logic counter theism that sens can anti religion religi believ speak atheist anti religi mean that atheist sort antipathi hatr theist thi categor atheist hostil religion quit unfair atheist attitud theist fact cover broad spectrum atheist live and live attitud question will not mention atheism perhap close friend thi part atheism not social accept countri atheist quit anti religi and even convert histor such anti religi atheist made impact societi eastern bloc countri digress slightli soviet union origin dedic separ church and state usa soviet citizen legal free worship wish institut state atheism stalin control soviet union and destroi church order gain complet power popul atheist quit vocal belief religion encroach matter not busi for exampl govern usa such individu concern that church and state remain separ you don religion run state sure that state atheism principl separ church and state that state not legisl matter religi belief mean not that state cannot promot religion expens anoth that cannot promot belief religi natur religion can discuss pure secular matter for exampl religi believ histor respons for encourag polit reform even todai organ campaign for increas spend foreign aid found religi campaign long campaign secular matter and long not discrimin religi ground atheist quit happi prayer school god you care peopl prai peopl prai voter and lawmak and tend thing that don prai can ignor christian prayer school intimid christian even told that not join divers religi and religi belief mean that imposs formul meaning prayer that will accept present public event prayer tend friend and famili prai reason care friend and famili wast time even motiv you mention christian campaign for increas foreign aid atheist aren atheist chariti hospit don atheist object religi chariti chariti religi purpos that atheist can contribut atheist contribut religi chariti for sake practic good atheist even voluntari work for chariti found theistic basi atheist feel that atheism isn worth shout connect chariti atheism simpl obviou everydai matter and chariti feel that somewhat cheap not righteou us simpl chariti excus plug set religi belief weak atheist build hospit not god strang idea hold parti todai not birthdai fuss atheism rare evangel you atheism isn anti religi perhap backlash upbring rebel perhap for peopl parent not attempt forc religi atheist idea and peopl choos call atheist doubtless case that religi peopl chose religion backlash atheist upbring hand peopl choos religion conform expect can conclud whether atheism religion backlash conform gener peopl tendenc group act independ atheist differ religi peopl don god that atheist listen heavi metal backward even prefer verdi requiem even word wear hawaiian shirt dress black even wear orang robe buddhist lack belief sort god atheist even carri copi bibl for argu you chanc you met atheist realis atheist unexcept behaviour and appear unexcept aren atheist moral religi peopl that depend you defin moral obedi god atheist moral don obei god talk moral talk accept and unaccept wrong behaviour societi human social anim and maxim success oper each thi good reason discourag atheist anti social immor behaviour pure for purpos preserv atheist behav moral compassion simpli feel natur tendenc empath human care happen don simpli that natur peopl behav immor and us atheism justifi action equal peopl behav immor and us religi belief justifi action for exampl trustworthi that deserv full accept jesu christ into world save sinner for that reason shown merci that jesu christ displai unlimit patienc exampl for and receiv etern life king etern immort invis god honor and glori forev and quot statement made court februari jeffrei dahmer notori cannib serial killer milwauke wisconsin that for atheist mass murder religi mass murder trivial moral survei conduct roper organ found that behavior deterior born experi respond had driven intox born had convers similarli had us illeg drug convers two percent admit engag illicit sex salvat freethought todai septemb that religion not monopoli moral behaviour such thing atheist moral you mean such thing moral for atheist answer explain atheist idea moral strong held religi peopl you mean atheism characterist moral code answer atheism not impli person will behav atheist follow moral rule theist for reason atheist view moral creat human human feel world work set rule decre supernatur aren atheist theist deni god studi freedom religion foundat found that atheist respond atheist religion not work for had found that religi belief fundament incompat observ atheist not unbeliev ignor denial unbeliev choic vast major spent time studi religion sometim great depth made care and consid decis reject religi belief thi decis inevit consequ that individu person for natur sceptic person choic atheism that make sens and choic that person can honestli make don atheist want god atheist live live watch desir watch matter good natur big brother figur atheist god thing true risk such approach obviou atheist decid that want not evid for belief atheist evid for exist god unwil soul not atheist previous religi explain vast major consid possibl that god exist atheist spent time prayer reach god true that atheist lack open mind assum that atheist bias and insincer offens and close mind comment such god you aren properli like view patron you engag philosoph debat atheist vital that you give benefit doubt and assum that sincer that search for god you not will that basic tell truth debat futil isn life complet pointless atheist atheist live purpos life decid mean life and pursu goal make live count not wish for etern life influenc peopl will live for exampl atheist dedic life polit reform hope leav mark histori natur human tendenc for mean purpos random event mean obviou that life sort thing that mean put anoth not question sensibl thing atheist that ask mean life silli ask mean cup coffe that life purpos mean atheist find comfort time danger wai obtain comfort famili friend even pet spiritu level food drink that sound empti and vulner face danger individu thing comfort face realiti matter harsh end decis for individu concern atheist unabl not make feel comfort put truth comfort and that search for truth sometim make feel unhappi that hard luck don atheist worri that suddenli shown wrong short answer you atheist atheist for year encount argument and suppos evid for exist god found invalid inconclus thousand year religi belief haven result good proof exist god atheist tend feel that prove wrong futur and stop worri theist question belief don argument appli belief question not similar weak atheism sceptic default posit assert noth strong atheism neg belief theism strong posit belief atheist sometim argu that theist question belief real harm can not believ sort harm religion repres huge financi and work burden mankind not matter religi believ wast monei church build time and effort spent build church prai and imagin that effort spent theist miracl heal plenti instanc ill peopl heal priest ceas medicin prescrib doctor and dy result theist di refus blood transfus religi ground arguabl that cathol church opposit birth control and condom increas problem overpopul world countri and contribut spread aid world wide religi believ murder children children becom atheist marri religion weren real believ claim believ sort excus make real believ true religion hard christian compet group convinc that true christian sometim even fight and kill each atheist suppos decid real christian and isn even major christian church cathol church and church england can decid end atheist pragmat view and decid that call christian and christian belief dogma justifi action consid christian christian pervert christian teach for end sure bibl can readili us support christian act can moral code bibl word god couldn made easi misinterpret and you that your belief aren pervers your god intend singl unambigu interpret bibl atheist interpret anoth your claim that believ jesu and that murder jesu and bibl told call christian extrem sort belief question sinc prove that god not exist that basic religi belief share faith nonsens that not hold point start thi dialogu posit assert exist entiti inher harder disprov neg prove that unicorn don exist that doesn make that myth valid hold neg assert default hold posit assert default weak atheist argu that assert noth atheism great theist popular belief correct whether work peopl astrolog grapholog and pseudo scienc atheist feel that simpli human weak want god primit human societi religion peopl deal phenomena that not adequ understand religion that industri world find peopl believ religi explan phenomena even perfectli adequ natur explan religion start mean attempt explain world nowadai serv purpos cultur develop religion sure that not religion superfici similar for exampl worth rememb that religion such buddhism and taoism lack sort concept god christian sens religion quick denounc compet religion odd us religion and justifi anoth famou scientist and philosoph conclud that god exist for scientist philosoph believ god not point truth belief not determin peopl import realiz that atheist not view famou scientist philosoph that theist view religi leader famou scientist human expert field talk matter word carri special weight respect scientist made foolish speak subject lie field expertis you that widespread belief religion noth not that religion question properti help spread theori memet talk meme set idea can propag human mind analog gene atheist view religion set success parasit meme spread encourag host convert meme avoid destruct discourag believ question doctrin peer pressur time believ admit that mistaken religi meme even encourag host destroi host control meme memet view virtu associ success propag meme religion not good thing number peopl diseas good thing number peopl caught even religion not true put across import messag fundament messag atheism import idea atheist promot don surpris idea present religion moral behaviour mindlessli rule sceptic posit claim you want your life sort mean you find search for true even make you uncomfort make your life you good reli extern power chang you you chang popular doesn mean good you assum assum easi test don thing you want true and final and importantli belief open question for take time read thi articl mathew for inform pgp send mail pgpinfo manti
alt.atheism	gospel date articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write john quit not necessarili elabor theologi evid that luke and that content not canon form thi argument you elabor argument follow oid quot john not almost codifi matthew luke consid similar point knowledg such and not sourc assum that knew luke put luke and give evid for assumpt don thi follow you tradit attribut luke john john elder figur case talk span time rang lifetim talk date text not ag author usual explan for time order mark matthew and luke not respect ag matthew read text mark and luke that matthew and that mark assum that john knew content luke text evid for that not overwhelm admittedli earlier manuscript john discov interest and date haven info hand late earli and possibl shed doubt order put john rest don your point exactli jame felder had hand knowledg event and obviou that two us older text base account and even associ luke paul mark peter not gener accept genuin letter peter close wouldn origin togeth card sender and receiv fine that suppos miss and don step remov sourc that bad luke and mark and matthew learn stori directli dicipl cannot sort big transform jesu gospel that peopl posit new report gener get inform thi and john dicipl noth that john discipl not gener accept style and languag togeth theologi us counterargu argument that john discipl reli claim gospel john evid for step and gener remov bad even time compar that report similar event centuri almost illiter societi not even speak that believ not necessarili sourc obviou that mark edit oldest manuscript knowledg can antiqu oldest quit estim and not even complet clear edit problem end and basic hopeless mess oldest version give strong sens incomplet point shortest version break midsent obviou solut that point part text lost materi vers pretti and repres synopsi end luke word not origin mark and argument base mark pretti weak that connect redat john benedikt
alt.atheism	univers violat separ church state dmn kepler unh edu king becom philosoph philosoph becom king write recent ra order and resist care appar post religi flyer entitl soul scroll thought religion spiritu and matter soul insid bathroom stall door school univers hampshir sort newslett assembl hall director campu pose question spiritu each issu and solicit respons includ issu pretti vagu assum put christian care not mention jesu bibl heard defend doesn support religion thi state univers and strong support separ church and state enrag can thi sound scream for parodi give copi your friendli neighbourhood subgeniu preacher luck run mental mincer and hand you back outrag offens and gut bustingli funni parodi you can past origin can stool scroll thought religion spiritu and matter colon you can us thi text wipe mathew
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout articl apr harder ccr ida org harder ccr ida org bob mcgwier write hate econom terror and polit correct wors hate thi polici effect approach stop donat organiz that directli indirectli support gai right issu end boycott fund scout can reconcil appar contradict and rob strom strom watson ibm ibm research mill river road box yorktown height
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write didn you lucif creat perfect natur defin perfect you plai usual game make sweep statement omni holi perfect and don note that mean exactli and that that you not us thi term lead contradict not plai game understand that come complet point view such atheism your foot your mouth wonder that cathol christian fact that contradict unresolv reason atheist believ similar sentenc for long time that show power religion and not claim god prevent lucif fall take abil choos moral altern worship god worship that mean that god error make lucif free will place exactli god evil evil that opinion premis point view not premis true specif that evil evil occur follow definit evil ordinarili us let evil happen allow evil place thi place even caus evil anoth evil you give definit free will presenc omnisci will determin word god creat consciou be abil choos moral choic independ god will free will omnisci attribut god will creatur will even omnipot creat choic left event fix not even for omnisci extend argument jame tim god omnisci creat be free moral choic greater good emerg ungodli evil sin sinc creat know outcom advanc greater good evil knowledg that will happen not make unipolar system possibl good not good that not necessarili impli evil logic your god not not that such logic god restrain free choic choos evil and simpli not good can that free moral choic and good defin love and obei god and avoid behavior god prohibit can you that not good not evil not that not good evil logic and not omnipot can free will you choic and scenario you defin free will imagin can good be cannot harm easili implement make object good deed don make long for can not feel absenc good evil case argu conceiv omnipot can not omnipot you want logic consist you give pet idea omnipot delet perhap weak specul ubiquit pink unicorn basi for such specul thi idea god didn fall blue read scienc fiction fantasi that will disagre bibl describ god omnisci and nevertheless creat be free moral choic definit logic follow that not mind amount evid that god exist and that biblic descript fair that evid bolster argument view that bibl describ omnisci and omnipot god destroi credibl bibl noth and lot peopl interest evid for god can definit benedikt
alt.atheism	polit atheist arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write motto origin star spangl banner that thi atheist motto coin origin mccarthyit smear equat atheism commun and call unamerican didn motto coin sinc civil war requir currenc keith
alt.atheism	anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write victim muslim victim not true muslim muslim quit annoi don understand point thi petti sarcasm basic principl islam that born muslim testifi that god god and mohammad prophet god that long not explicitli reject islam word consid muslim muslim phenomenon you attempt make into gener rule psycholog direct odd basic islam principl you want attack islam you argu that islam explicitli contradict critic islam for chang critic argument us whenev peopl you identifi muslim victim attack us argument for bad situat muslim whenev deed muslim that victim name not count argument peopl not true muslim mention made muslim bad situat anoth parti doubl standard benedikt
alt.atheism	polit atheist refer line trim livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write good deal confus you start assert that object moral and you admit you finish recurs definit murder object immor eactli murder and not requir appeal moral you switch target you ask goal you mean goal you suggest that object goal and form moral achiev for exampl goal natur moral surviv and propog speci anoth exampl moral system present declar independ state that guarante life liberti and pursuit happi you moral system defin purpos system that moral end murder violat golden rule and thought had defin murder intent kill murder will and you respond thi ask whether not execut innoc person system capit punish murder not fail thi never claim that system moral object thought that your claim that kind object moral and that exampl that that murder wrong you don want claim that that fine murder violat golen rule pillar moral system not assum that current system and manner implement object moral that good approxim can perfect and you don understand differ arbitrari and object keith schneider defin murder thi that and that arbitrari jon livesei person system moral kill human will murder and wrong and legal definit murder usa kuweit saudi arabia prc matter not whit object assum system base clear and fundament concept arbitari impli clear line reason keith
alt.atheism	pompou ass kmr cwru edu keith ryan write peopl ask question and you rare answer nope answer each question pose and answer multipl time keith
alt.atheism	pompou ass livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write long motto stai becom default cutoff point don exact cutoff year and sure year notion default not into account popul makeup specif you talk you argu that motto interpret offens larger portion popul year ago keith
alt.atheism	keith schneider stealth poster sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write borrow philosophi you don understand color red you not true even you experienc color red you interpret you wouldn red and you couldn judg subject and object not applic sinc you want discuss merit red keith
alt.atheism	keith schneider stealth poster arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write you discuss merit racism psycholg benefit you experienc person you speak experienc religion you mean religion that and thi pretti imposs ideal for religion and determin thought suit thi not not that religion warrant belief belief carri psycholog benefit psycholog burden you speak experienc racism you mean that racism that racist thing for parallel you meant odd usag phrase psycholog benefit gain racism fulli understood judg person believ racism parallel happen poor you origin keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write you don that capit punish wrong isn shoot analog that you continu drive your car realiz that sooner kill automobil accid you peopl kill result drive you continu you not that you will kill not drive car had suffici evid conclud that necessarili kill lifetim and think you think that involv fatal accid likelihood surprisingli high you man fire squad gun shoot blank not mean that you guilti don jon take human life murder and murder wrong situat action that will prevent anoth murder anoth you mean that kill wrong situt and you note that that situat will never occur option kill don you that kill wrong thi basic you get bit tire your probabilist argument you attempt condescend that system work pretti small consol poor innoc bastard get lethal inject your person human life base sole statist approach you sound unswerv adher outweigh fuck peopl found risk accept you like die plane crash even electr blender you execut innoc person that risk accept ideal moral system such risk accept accept fudg factor such approxim ideal keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write that peopl approv death penalti even realiz shortcom doesn thi make reason you sole judg reason reveng merit you find capit punish talk major peopl that support that reveng fair peopl favor punish murder punish peopl that that deserv peopl wouldn fair for murder live victim di reveng petti and pathet perhap you that petti and pathet your view minor local televis hot topic talk show that recent segment capit punish each and advoc us thi portion system jurisprud cite main reason for support that bastard deserv true human compass forgiv and sympathi requir compass forgiv and sympathi wrong will great length make that advantag remov similar situat forc kill anoth can appli golden rule and kill thi person turn not entir moral system base such concept you state that human life sacr and that never violat thi sound sort religi view mean reason imprison you person releas found innoc you can undo imiprison that serv perhap shouldn impris peopl watch close cost similar implant sort electron devic you aliv prison dead chair onc crimin commit murder desir irrelev and you not answer question you concern death penalti due possibl execut innoc isn thi concern share imprison shouldn your logic administ minimum punish avoid violat liberti happi innoc person keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write kill thi person innoc person convict murder murder commit not murder wouldn consid murder reason introduc fudg factor account for inabl total object due lack absolut true inform societi collect decid carri burden execut citizen carri blame for innoc blood each and voter cast ballot favor capit punish part guilti murder each and innoc victim system peopl favor system blame societi accept such system each member societi blame innoc person get execut that not favor work convinc and member societi accept blame consid risk accept similarli person drive accept blame for fatal traffic accid thi that sure happen peopl drive question risk accept like that innoc person will kill drive that will execut keith
alt.atheism	don innoc die death penalti articl psilink psilink jame tim write maintain class and even prison place innoc peopl higher risk unjust death state execut class and occasion error answer posit that place peopl prison for life that depend not predisposit murder success rate escap and abil commit crime word lifetim imprison doesn work perhap not not execut peopl not care lock bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	ancient islam ritual articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write propos that two trend greater level gener depress societi and psycholog problem and greater sexual promiscu link prime cannot provid evid thi thi stage thesi reason and request that peopl ponder damn you can provid evid for rare widespread social phenomenon reduc such simpl premis psycholog hard scienc roughli mathemat sound physic your premis like that reflect your social and religi background your valid your religi belief pretend answer and don that xenophobia guilt and intoler brought adher fundamentalist religion plai larg role depress member societi your mileag vari bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl apr blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write that innoc person kill sens bad feel that punish for singl murder reform system reduc number death produc system not back system even introduc singl extra death bob that bad sens somewhat stronger you argument that sole purpos death penalti kill peopl that primari and argu purpos continu kill peopl practic that almost util you you will kill innoc unconscion exist prison system and transport system base merit societi not detriment will accept lost innoc live overwhelm benefit continu exist system stretch evid and argument make claim for capit punish case wasn clear maintain capit punsih system that kill innoc peopl and net posit gain you pin corner and respond that don belief state life won open that debat tire thi thread bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	creator articl drporter suvm syr edu drporter suvm syr edu brad porter write scienc wonder answer question not type question scientif find person find theori evolut unfathom human highli evolv complex organ that think learn and develop organ that result random genet mutat and natur select stuff delet comput excel exampl evolut creator not creat comput not creat sand that into silicon that into integr circuit that into processor board thing and put togeth interest plant creat oxygen light photosynthesi bigger leap talk that creat noth find unfathom resort believ creator simpler altern exist simpli incap understand begin even begin and that present perfectli busi jim halat
alt.atheism	american and evolut articl rpi edu johnsd jec rpi edu dan johnson write articl main main edu main main edu write dan johnson you don thi hand bravo for beauti simpli beauti jim halat
alt.atheism	specul articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write nanci ann miller andrew cmu edu write thi god omnipot you folk claim can termin etern for reason can flibbl glop ork groink thing you demand that mean term thi classic exampl excess faith reason fact that troubl talk doesn impli that imposs simpli impli that hard talk good chanc that god can flibbl glop ork groink charli wingat can flibbl glop ork groink and isn even god doug graham dgraham bnr opinion
alt.atheism	polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write fun debat capit punish thi wrong group for relev that you don capit punish and murder that you murder wrong you term you not defin that innoc person execut thi object murder blame anoth question that entir societi that sanction sort execut realiz risk blame probabl kill innoc person shoot random into air and probabl kill innoc person state administ system capit punish you you that action you take will sooner result kill innoc person probabl that you will kill raondom activ you had not isol total rest societi thi and drive will kill peopl will airlin peopl continu drive and fly not punish inflict unwil prison court risk that ourselv willingli and argu that law system similar risk perhap innoc person will punish somedai work prevent thi fact crimin free result prevent punish innoc drive kill moral issu person involv fatal accid and felt vei guilti such accid total expect numner vehic road blame societi not thi you you that such fals wit that result innoc person convict and kill fault state sinc actual kill comment that state kill not depend fals wit state kill even case sincer mistak state not fault such case state can prevent fals wit you that capit punish murder possibilti human error invalid system capit punish murder period not thi that and involv take human life that definit murder make appeal dictionari object moral thi you call murder question whether not such murder wrong you that take human life wrong matter circumst societi decid murder that and list reason for and live moral consequ not plai word game and pretend that murder isn murder and that opinion societi run thi basic work societi accept risk that innoc person will murder execut and member societi share thi blame and peopl definit murder includ sort malici intent not involv execut discuss object moral system possibilti ramif your person system object not discuss object moral system show you that you didn for thing you incap defin term for exampl murder murder violat golden rule execut not allow societi implicitli accept consequ matter innoc victim not talk read mind talk know truth can never absolut that truth court system work principl know truth reason doubt you simpli not quot accur you and sinc total object thi case peopl think vote execut person not intent malici and unfair execut murder you slide into anoth claim quit juri persuad doubt not know mind doubt read mind juri whether not convict moral not object system absolut truth matter and juri system method approxim such truth that twelv member convinc truth juri come suffici prejud background persuad doubt evid that you and laugh read mind peopl that convict unfair perfectli fair read mind assum that fair knew absolut truth fair your opinion good approxim absolut truth not question fair your claim quot claim whether can fair distinguish capit punishn murder object determin differ knew inform can determin differ flaw system that system almost good isn object perfect you doesn matter fair not object fair not huge differ can read mind can and cannot read mind can noth differ not degre fair can effect object system produc fairli object system clear goal suppos promot not wast time devis system that pretti not exist you simpli want peopl confront realiti realiti rememb your realiti import thi case realiti that ideal theori apart can never even fact fair justic system for innoc person releas death row dozen innoc peopl execut hundr simpli don can assum that system fairli decent like and you realiz that correct system noth total ideal and object system hand can pretend that ideal theori and that can thing can never and justi system fair and that can wave magic wand and make type kill not murder and can ideal system work system can not ideal can hope creat system that close approxim ideal system hand can recogn that justic small hope probabl punish innoc and that end bear moral respons even for probabilist consequ system set and murder will even gee thi strictli bear respons peopl will thi that second prefer that requir peopl face moral consequ societi shelter ourselv magic ceremoni and word game realiz consequ action you separ justic system pack and forget don object moral system and that idea present evid don countri object system such object system can exist theori omnisci object system not practic keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write come keith schneider and object moral system and start definit that thi object system depend and predict thing fall apart fall apart you attempt appli thi doesn mean that object system can exist mean that cannot implement keith
alt.atheism	univers violat separ church state articl kepler unh edu dmn kepler unh edu king becom philosoph philosoph becom king write recent ra order and resist care appar post religi flyer entitl soul scroll thought religion spiritu and matter soul insid bathroom stall door school univers hampshir sort newslett assembl hall director campu post delet respond religi post stop dana easi post flyer stall door add bottom nice larg capit emerg toilet paper robert mellish fog email mellish net irc hobnob and mr joy prize for rafia work
alt.atheism	usatodai famili valu articl rzz unix portal danb shell portal dan babcock write funni usatodai american famili associ post choic part for your enjoy emphas not ad typo mine dan articl delet found add local sundai newspap add cartoon section perfect place for
alt.atheism	islam author women articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write claim that person that committ crime doesn god for moment that crime commit whether origin believ not good your statist peopl that declar atheism and doubtless atheist act chariti temporarili becom baptist jon
alt.atheism	ancient islam ritual articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write propos that two trend greater level gener depress societi and psycholog problem and greater sexual promiscu link prime cannot provid evid thi thi stage thesi reason and request that peopl ponder ponder for ten second realis that sinc don reliabl statist for sexual promiscu and sinc issu depress isn defin for earlier centuri you talk crap you pull mozumd and that peopl sex marriag defin depress can notic jon
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout articl apr cbnewsl att stank cbnewsl att stan krieger write can us rec scout for purpos for establish netnew voter decid that not want provid scout newsgroup give fring group forum for anti societ polit view thi thing will comment stan thi time part thi forum call rec scout for polici discuss and relat topic thi polici discuss and involv relat topic thi not fring group discuss engend strong feel side issu hand wether view anti societ not your opinion and alon don make you not engag thi discuss us kill file you continu thi discuss know full implic that appli for that plan continu discuss input for tire peopl that thi not matter signific for thi group and quit for feel impact close dominick zurlo world www oyster eagl scout allerg mollusk blacklist
alt.atheism	polit atheist mathew mathew manti write for rape sure burden guilt sole rapist not you thrown into cage tiger and maul you blame tiger keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist mathew mathew manti write perhap shouldn impris peopl watch close cost similar implant sort electron devic wait commit crime not implant such devic potenti crimin communist and atheist don follow your reason you propos punish peopl commit crime justif you for thi keith
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alt.atheism	idl question for fellow atheist atheist care specul face world atheist major minor group popul ridicul question wai newsread not get post for bit figur post atheist stanc and accor higher think theistic think typic selfish argument that line think evolv inher motiv not intrins qualit measur stick drawn and cannot assign system belief core altern appli peripheri express selfish idl thought adam adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	american and evolut articl apr dc warwick simon dc warwick simon clippingdal write delet alt atheism tend recognis two categori atheism function format due mathew manti weak not god strong not god delet strong atheist and quibbl your assert that strong posit requir faith that god commonli describ theist exist thi belief opinion form basi observ includ amount introspect fulli accept that wrong and will swai suitabl convinc evid that god exist thi not impli faith part that that that god exist fact not believ god god will argu that your statement that god exist rest faith that you make posit statement that god exist strong atheism don and don and don not weak atheism onc not god that god not exist maintain posit even read faq that strong atheism requir faith languag problem regard faith and exist christian maintain that god not exist exist mean space and time god not god kierkegaard onc that god not exist etern thi feel pointless debat call exist god and that not that god sourc and ground you that god not exist accept thi statement mean two thing follow will us phrase exist god usual sens and thi sens that you clarif you mean exist god differ mean faith webster faith allegi duti person loyalti fidel promis sincer intent belief and trust and loyalti god belief tradit doctrin religion firm belief for proof complet trust that believ esp strong convict esp system religi belief syn belief can never prove that god not exist you that you god not exist and that thi opinion base observ will observt you refer observ pro con that valid establish posit belief observ can point you direct direct that even predispos predispos mean for exampl peopl whoe partent god tend draw conclus exist exist god requir leap and you made thi leap you activ that god not exist person that statement misguid argu exist god precis wrong find and us person god viabl concept imo person us ahead god choic anthropomorphis you want explain glad and not agre even violent disagre advantag start name call person think misunderstood faq not read point error wai and correct situat interest polit and thought discuss cheer simon simon clippingdal simon dc warwick depart comput scienc tel univers warwick fax coventri bob singleton bob thnext mit edu
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write horribl death result atheism quit horribl death result atheist and theist bobbi can list quit for atheist side fail recogn that theist equal profici genocid perhap sinc bit weak histori somon give list war caus led theist can hitler claim christian for exampl complet list effect show bobbi absurd statement peac side note notic you sign your post peac perhap you your advic and leav atheist peac belief bobbi mozumd nanci you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu ly ourselv deepli ingrain ly
alt.atheism	dear theist west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write mean full quot michael crichton jurras park earth exist quit content for billion year for blink ey and tomorrow earth not miss rememb thi quot humbl think that progress that master thi planet cool quot earth doesn save exist quit happili save watch theist will jump you for that brian west thi not sig file earth thi not sig file for blink sig file ey tomorrow post west wam umd edu not miss doesn care jurass park diclaim thi meant thi made nanci you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu ly ourselv deepli ingrain ly
alt.atheism	polit atheist turn jump articl innq gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write refer line trim livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write good deal confus you start assert that object moral and you admit you finish recurs definit murder object immor eactli murder and not requir appeal moral you mean circular not recurs that semant recurs problem horribl ineffici assembl programm you switch target you ask goal you mean goal you suggest that object goal and form moral achiev for exampl goal natur moral surviv and propog speci anoth exampl moral system present declar independ state that guarante life liberti and pursuit happi you moral system defin purpos system that moral end oft quot line that peopl guarante life liberti and pursuit happi inalien right complet lie and decept author that line process prove liberti never free purchas cost almost cost anoth who liberti inalien similarli for life person die save anoth even group who life inalien that lead into classic question death penalti for serial killer who life and liberti valuabl serial killer victim that beauti line two right complet inviol that remov thi includ govern admittedli serial killer restrict peopl life and liberti not life liberti inviol declar independ murder violat golden rule and thought had defin murder intent kill murder will oooh that mean that kill infant not murder cannot will reason infant will such similarli for peopl brain dead easier coma etc current law accident kill murder will you includ that and you respond thi ask whether not execut innoc person system capit punish murder not fail thi never claim that system moral object thought that your claim that kind object moral and that exampl that that murder wrong you don want claim that that fine real golden rule life gold make rule make that surviv wrong that murder violat golen rule pillar moral system not assum that current system and manner implement object moral that good approxim can perfect you mean golden rule state almost system implement us that realiti don deal fiction realiti and you don understand differ arbitrari and object keith schneider defin murder thi that and that arbitrari jon livesei person system moral kill human will murder and wrong and legal definit murder usa kuweit saudi arabia prc matter not whit ozland not arbitrari you can find part societi societ rule moral etc that not arbitrari don object assum system base clear and fundament concept arbitari impli clear line reason keith sound euphem differ that object reason that arbitrari reason that don don understand
alt.atheism	radic agnost not and jcopelan nyx edu wrote articl bgsu edu andi bgsu edu pixi write post bug zoo bgsu mean that can possibl prove doubt that god not exist mean lack thi abil absolut proof atheist becom act faith and and thi cannot accept accept noth blind faith invis pink fly unicorn question meant atheist familiar exampl import mean word follow two statement consist not that you wear lilac sock not that you not wear lilac sock two statement not consist that you wear lilac sock that you not wear lilac sock statement and requir faith make presumpt natur realiti statement and requir belief atheist includ posit not that god not that not god that harbor belief good evid for god exist not folk call thi agnostic not suffer blind faith don worri happi
alt.atheism	maddi creat imag gaea pinnacl creation creat birth continu cut religi crap woman and sexism that start road atheism maddi hausmann madhau netcom centigram commun corp san jose california kid don thi home rememb post profession
alt.atheism	wrong and articl trmetu bitnet trmetu bitnet write turkish gui had atheism saten and buddism instant hislif final decid islambecaus fact intend write point view you atheist peopl drop deep dark and think realiti dusti wall you had look bit upward you blue ski you dsee truth you close your ey allah god and moham mess ager gener entropi mean theologi and thermodynam hat your point view problem kiss that spark gener for format univers form tself you bother big bang spa bit and return realiti univers isla thi bit bobbi atheism fals stuff thi univers cyclic brendan dunn
alt.atheism	polit atheist bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write and even that argument doesn stand cost execut crimin thi countri feed cloth and shelter for remaind natur life peopl thi fault judici system find greatest virtu assum that you talk appeal process etc note that peopl imprison for life will tend appeal not quit final hour econom not good reason favor oppos punish keith
alt.atheism	american and evolut articl apr skyblu ccit arizona edu lippard skyblu ccit arizona edu jame lippard write articl mar juliet caltech edu lmh juliet caltech edu henl lawrenc write atheism greek not theo god belief that god agnostic greek not gnostein belief that not determin god agnostic you defin posit belief belief that not determin exist god that belief inclin reject you defin atheism posit belief that god fairli larg number atheist alt atheism reject thi definit hold that atheism simpli absenc belief god michael martin atheism philosoph justif distinguish strong atheism mistak will newer dictionari and read follow line larri henl lmh shake caltech edu
alt.atheism	polit atheist refer line trim ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu scott sauyet write make assumpt that you agre that murder commit murder that murder intention commit murder for instanc you put bullet into gun that thought blank and kill such gun person perform action isn murder guess thi made clear below definit interest reason definit you mean reason your induct definit doesn bottom your definit essenc that murder intent kill not commit murder will expand second occur murder that bad includ word defin definit even seri recurs infinit mean can deduc assum you can problem correct induct definit you defin term simpler case and you bottom case for instanc can defin factori function function assign posit integ product posit integ equal posit integ induct follow math lesson delet thi situat suppos longstand feud two famili claim that commit travesti distant past each time member famili kill member famili think that justifi kill that member famili suppos that thi sequenc occur infinit number time you don deal infin suppos that member famili back into time and essenti begin thing that never end loop slai base exist travesti you resolv thi murder suppos that thi isn total applic your problem reduc uninduc system and case nest murder definit murder cannot infint recurs finit exist human and murder cannot commit kill involv person intention kill necessarili murder thi induct solv appar unreduc definit total object system inform such nest definit isn problem keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl pigidinnsot gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write mathew mathew manti write for rape sure burden guilt sole rapist not you thrown into cage tiger and maul you blame tiger human greater control action predomin instict tiger proper analog you thrown into cage person and maul you blame that person provid that that person respons frame mind not clinicali insan pcb etc thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men bobbi mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu april true muslim left world
alt.atheism	idl question for fellow atheist articl apr mac macalstr edu acoop mac macalstr edu write atheist care specul face world atheist major minor group popul problem slight shift emphasi weekend not inviol common work dai week busi and american atheist similar religi organ person religi belief crutch and justif for action guid determin action peopl come fascin ration for action that fun watch that for peopl religion america doesn matter that you extreemist end larg major don make issu long you don admittedli never had suffer bibl belt north and fring and reason peopl thing tend reason religion atheist stanc and accor higher think theistic think typic selfish argument that line think evolv inher motiv not intrins qualit measur stick drawn and cannot assign system belief core altern appli peripheri express selfish don bother higher think anybodi think don want fall that trap you start that you decid and inferior mode think idic infinit divers infinit combin argu soda not inflat
alt.atheism	problem satan us islam author women articl apr new unomaha edu trajan cwi unomaha edu stephen mcintyr write bobbi state that satan free will that god thi bring host paradox god evil free will god direct god evil part infinit good and evil etc for onc solid answer not run hope gave you fairli solid answer thi simpli don agre embodi version satan separ creation forc wrote belief ascrib that evil not creation absenc good thi fit logic thing dual us knife can us sculpt and can us kill entropi evil thi view forc entiti satan metaphor fact vers holi qur support thi view and tradit for exampl tradit that food never left open shelf tabl overnight satan enter appear that thi refer undiscov germ evil effect spoil food describ satan exampl satan personifi and quit physic descript heaven and hell holi qur bibl etc time spiritu and intellectu evolut modern human physic descript heaven hell and satan quit liter and that work for time mention tradit cite for exampl suffici absenc theori germ and diseas spread worm simpli describ evil pass consum spoil food satan beg question satan thi case metaphor can you allah not bottom line that describ spiritu plane human languag describ color person blind birth you want read book flatland you haven dragon egg intend light heart descript mathemat con cept delet for space save languag fail cannot us adequ describ anoth dimens cannot experienc speaker such convent metaphor allegori and come unseen describ term refer and mean for reader listen model compro mise made speak metaphor clariti and direct mean equival percept and crippl can you thi ask you god exist spirit metaphor mean satan metaphor you justifi thi belief and justifi that god not metaphor for thi instanc satan describ such tormentor testament book job temptor testament gospel god describ spirit metaphor and not belief god isn bar evil case satanist even satan metaphor satanist god justifi thi belief case god religi standard evil bobbi thi address thi question delet metaphor philosoph thi issu not that reader thi newsgroup want delv into religi interpret wish discuss thi will line mail line post stephen atheist libertarian pro individu pro respons and that jazz
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout articl pmjo inn lynx unm edu bevan carina unm edu mathemagician write gai peopl that straight peopl don absolut noth straight arrow year male that involv bsa don care gai peopl each long don make pass summer camp work boss gai not pansi gai gui doesn push and give respect back due posit bsa taught don toler met thi gui thought gai fari bsa taught antibigot basic come thi you your busi you violat civil right
alt.atheism	gospel date date mon apr gmt stilgar west cvill wam umd edu articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl apr wam umd edu west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write illiad undisput word god prove wrong disput ergo counter exampl you proven wrong disput your counter exampl ergo counter counter exampl you wrong and nanni nanni boo boo tbbbbbbbtttttthhhhh thi case temporari islam
alt.atheism	word advic articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write time that altern that you caught and altern point ration isn altern problem metaphys and religi knowledg unsolv human cannot solv that can shouldn interrupt jim you wash your brain todai
alt.atheism	god moral long jbrown batman bmd trw write supernatur forc creat pathogen you sinc diseas bad bad entiti creat you acid rain meteor fall sky volcano earthquak and quot unquot act god that not act god natur occurr amaz that you audac that human creation not result natur process evolut act god and post that process volcano natur occurr gave you choos thing natur process and direct act god you that god doesn each and natur disast specif purpos mind sadist natur bibl even satan had noth origin incept diseas evolut random chanc produc sinc human forsook god protect choos live apart god law human collect come surpris that advers consequ collect action that left deal diseas and disord inevit result entrop univers thi collect bullcrap come collect refer idea that god work human two level individu and collect mankind decid undertak action major mankind god will consequ that action affect mankind adam ev two peopl even tho had honor you christian claim two not repres major billion and trillion peopl that come perhap major and you weren vote and perhap vote differ that tree your god never ask assum that you two bad peopl bad hmm sound kind fals gener that theist post resort that shoulda jim nanci you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu ly ourselv deepli ingrain ly
alt.atheism	islam author women articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write that your mistak for children mother rais child thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men compar that homo rais studi and you will point you claim that men stai home and rais child that fals made feminist that seek statu men you not recogn fact that men and women natur differ not physic mental your logic didn american world problem atheist becuas code ethic follow mean that atheist can want feel total base feel and feel cloud ration think yeah didn that atheist bad that bad good noth defin bad good awright bobbi back shit for brain glori thought turn corner progress thorazin prescript run put kill file man thi good stuff had stai power fortun learn not long long long ago bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	islam author women articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write peac bobbi thi hell your sig you learn stand for and mean bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	omnipot specul articl psilink robert knowl psilink write date fri apr nanci ann miller andrew cmu edu can god uncreat for violat natur cannot god natur exist statement inher exist exist exist cannot not exist mention not omnipot you mean omnipot you mean omnipot that god thi creat contradictori definit omnipot effect useless descript omnipot mean power and not illustr analog suppos unit state nuclear power earth suppos that militari not effect counter nation group nation power into countri time for reason straighten thing leader fit militarili omnipot suppos that hold doctrin philosophi not interf intern affair nation such current civil war yugoslavian state technic thi scenario power unilater into yugoslavia and straighten mess effect not interven violat polici interfer polici interfer held strongli never question that violat effect limit had power want simpli never want interfer for such idea consider leader such inviol interfer polici god effect limit sens power cannot us power that violat essenc hope thi help clear misunderstand omnipot regard jim
alt.atheism	islam marriag articl apr cadenc ma cadenc masud khan write articl qav austin ibm karner austin ibm karner write you want name name offici record pseudo marriag perform for conveni happen typic that woman will move lover scrupl legal contract speak man util loophol enter into temporari religi marriag contract order sex complain care perhap you alert your imam that thi practic widespread you take muslim men wit penetr decid practic exist you astound level ignor you displai muslim not allow enter temporari marriag that evid for outlaw practis your fact straight buddi give refer for you ly not widespread you fantasis fact contrari your fantasi not practis muslim not your buddi second read wrote not talk muslim allow practic muslim you don retort and tire not true muslim bullshit gave you name will you thi inform fatwa leash perpetr you honestli that voluntarili come forward and confess kind extrem shown your religionari fat chanc rate can conclus proof natur act perhap peopl that indulg thi practic agre you theori hope that allah will forgiv end arrog you pretend speak for muslim thi regard kind silli you insinu that koran law forbid crimin muslim countri thi care thi subject weak your argument for netter and disclaim opinion express thi post mine sole and not repres employ karner aix technic support karner austin vnet ibm
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl innq gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write refer line trim livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write good deal confus you start assert that object moral and you admit you finish recurs definit murder object immor eactli murder and not requir appeal moral you switch target you ask goal you mean goal you suggest that object goal and form moral achiev for exampl goal natur moral surviv and propog speci thi you mean goal hope you don mean impli that evolut consciou goal jon
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl pic linnrau gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write person object that find capit punish cruel and unusu punish circumst can painless isn cruel and occur frequent sinc dawn time unusu koff you mean that long put you sleep can kill you cruel thi jon
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl pieg inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write come keith schneider and object moral system and start definit that thi object system depend and predict thing fall apart fall apart you attempt appli thi doesn mean that object system can exist mean that cannot implement not fact that can exist that bother fact that you don defin want hear indefin thing that principl exist long you don carefulli religi person couldn jon
alt.atheism	pompou ass articl btinnqa gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write kmr cwru edu keith ryan write peopl ask question and you rare answer nope answer each question pose and answer multipl time fifti dollar can answer your question big bang theori big bang theori recip for cooki fifti dollar hei didn answer make sens jon
alt.atheism	pompou ass articl jkinnq gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write long motto stai becom default cutoff point don exact cutoff year and sure year notion default not into account popul makeup specif you talk you argu that motto interpret offens larger portion popul year ago comment that make sens inherit default steam train recent jon
alt.atheism	god moral long articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw respond lot grief articl apr leland stanford edu galahad leland stanford edu scott compton sagemast thi relev discuss answer john question genet diseas and bacteri and viral diseas requir babi develop antibodi god fault origin question not scotti followup irrelev origin question thi not unusu thread quickli evolv origin topic not understand jim spent time respond regard irrelev thi collect bullcrap come collect refer idea that god work human two level individu and collect mankind decid undertak action major mankind guess hypothet adam major mankind man time god will consequ that action affect mankind you didn understand that apolog for not and two syllabl word discuss understand you mean collect insan pervers justic sort judg punish descend for crime commit ancestor you want that read your post and provid respons send copi jim brown bmd trw can read dai and post slip admit that you read read bibl dai you miss coupl good followup your post send you person copi followup hope you will respond public john sageless
alt.atheism	jew can hide keith cco articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write articl aaa fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write jon ken previous peopl you your countri jew not surviv that sound ken accus gui nazi previou post delet thi perfectli fine rant and agre complet issu hand whether not ken accus fellow germani nazi grant that not explic make thi accus pretti damn close accus gui sympath extermin jew and that good for poster casual trash two thousand year jewish histori and ken repli that had previous peopl germani that peopl formal nazi nazi parti activ and tacit support ordinari man street behav casual anti semit perfectli accept exactli don you understand wrote and don you matter hand jon
alt.atheism	jew can hide keith cco articl apr mac macalstr edu acoop mac macalstr edu write articl pint fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write germani countri discrimin jew worst reput job express gener european dislik thi not turn into debat antisemit you point that luther antisemit base religi ground hitler racial ground and wagnmer aesthet ground blanket group poor analysi even bigot find intrigu remark you give bit explan for exampl religion anti semit and aesthet jon
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write ivt cfj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write british blow skyscrap don you you impli that person accus blow wtc and that islam teach blow wtc repli person attempt justifi fatwa rushdi ground that work intention insult that singl sentenc fairli long post and don you you impli quit disingenu and perhap even dishonest care dig back and read full post will noth kind trust you don deni that islam teach fatwa rushdi jon
alt.atheism	anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write don understand point thi petti sarcasm basic principl islam that born muslim testifi that god god and mohammad prophet god that long not explicitli reject islam word consid muslim muslim phenomenon you attempt make into gener rule psycholog direct odd basic islam principl you want attack islam you argu that islam explicitli contradict mozumd incorrect that commit bad act peopl temporarili becom atheist jon
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write saddam believ god prai time dai commun hand commit genocid name atheism lenin and stalin two die hard atheist pun and believ atheism integr part commun bobbi stalin kill million name social atheism characterist lenin stalin version social noth anoth characterist lenin stalin social central food distribut you that stalin and lenin kill million name ration bread not horribl death result atheism earlier post you state that true muslim believ incap evil suppos you that you reason that kill name religion perfect world you live bobbi reason that you atheist that you limit god give god form god not face bobbi refer obscur law good atheist handbook law xxvi give that you not face you excus bobbi argu theism argu christian idea god realm christian man creat god imag kevin marshal sophomor comput scienc virginia tech blacksburg usa marshal csugrad edu
alt.atheism	list biblic contradict joslin pogo isp pitt edu david joslin write write found list biblic contradict and clean bit curiou purpos peopl list serv time atheist spend time pai attent bibl face thing your life us chuckl and snort silli that book and absurd peopl believ truth etc spend time mayan religion nativ american heck nativ american signifigantli interest myth egyptian pai attent christian accept religion and not mytholog find accur toler get hard place book nose and tell special not carolyn
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit apr mst jbrown batman bmd trw god etern jesu god jesu etern thi work logic and mathemat god set thing etern jesu subset god jesu belong set thing etern isn logic merced car that girl merced that girl car heikki
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl rusnew manti mathew manti mathew write articl apr blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write automobil system kill drive passeng not mention pedestrian you not drive even us car kill and kill system public transport favour ban privat car and replac train buse taxi bicycl and second cycl work each dai and damn car and cretin driver road lot fun jon
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl rusnew manti mathew manti mathew write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write and mean peopl drive accept risk and contribut tax monei design system minim risk system minim risk that you car driver don want us call bicycl train and buse poor matthew million poster call you car driver and choos car owner jon
alt.atheism	omnipot specul articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl psilink robert knowl psilink write date fri apr nanci ann miller andrew cmu edu can god uncreat for violat natur cannot god natur exist statement inher exist exist exist cannot not exist mention not omnipot you mean omnipot you mean omnipot that god thi creat contradictori definit omnipot effect useless descript omnipot mean power and not illustr analog suppos unit state nuclear power earth suppos that militari not effect counter nation group nation power into countri time for reason straighten thing leader fit militarili omnipot you check afghan post thi disagre jon
alt.atheism	satan mango umd edu charlei wingat write nanci ann miller write favorit repli you liter mind complaint that bibl inspir god and that import make damn translat and scribe and peopl interpret and copi get liter not put merit that corrupt and and man even origin inspir god corrupt and theori pretti weak comparison current hebrew text version and translat show that text fact chang space two millennia thi shouldn that supris peopl text thi manner like make pain make good copi you honestli hold that tripe charlei for start current version bibl make comparison show that you write utter garbag wit mormon cathol anglican and greek orthodox bibl convinc you you good librari local librari had king jame compar brand hot god tongu good new bibl genesi almost unrecognis discrep gospel had edit good new bibl fact god good new congeni fellow you king jame and give you quot head haven chang jeff
alt.atheism	ancient islam ritual cfaehl vesta unm edu chri faehl write reason trend obes and trend depress you can pick your two favorit trend notic correl and make sweep statement gener mean you can and peopl that not mean that valid reason thesi gross oversimplif push pull factor peopl experi agre reckon televis and increas fundament you increas pre marit sex think psychologist crimin justic system and violent crimin con into let into street increas design drug communist plot basic social interact chang factor societi complic for control hold panic handl and hope that head for soft land thing for depress and destruct nuclear famili not due sole sex marriag jeff fred rice muslim give point view daric yoyo monash edu cfaehl vesta unm edu
alt.atheism	american and evolut articl apr njitgw njit edu dmu hertz njit edu david utidjian eng sci write articl mar juliet caltech edu lmh juliet caltech edu henl lawrenc write for complet descript and not atheism agnostic faq for alt atheism alt answer utidjian remarqu berkelei edu apolog for post thi thought talk origin definit webster nonetheless appar past argument word impli that bimonthli and biweekli commonli accept definit and us care larri henl lmh shake caltech edu
alt.atheism	jew can hide keith cco articl aaa fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write articl pint fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write delet jon ken previous peopl you your countri jew not surviv that sound ken accus gui nazi hitler and nazi didn spring fulli form forehead athena didn invent anti semit built foundat anti semit that present germani thi foundat anti semit laid not nazi peopl list and hundr year unthink knee jerk bigotri part perfectli ordinari peopl and pastor and priest worri todai not whether hollywood hitler black uniform come stride german stage unprepar step whether bedrock foundat anti semit laid germani speak and will laid not hitler and himmler will come peopl poster question peopl that casual anti semit accept even fun delet suggest greatest respect that you read histori jon you german poster remark anti semit perhap you impli that germani doesn agre isra polici nazi prai even qualifi casual anti semit term doesn appli bring your bigotri shine disclaim opinion express thi post mine sole and not repres employ karner aix technic support karner austin vnet ibm
alt.atheism	omnipot specul articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write god effect limit sens power cannot us power that violat essenc cannot will not thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men bobbi mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu april true muslim left world
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit articl suopanki apr stekt oulu suopanki stekt oulu heikki suopanki write god etern jesu god jesu etern thi work logic and mathemat god set thing etern jesu subset god jesu belong set thing etern isn logic merced car that girl merced that girl car thi not strickli correct incorrect applic rule languag work merced premi and second not merced your case and not equal name person name object you can not simpli extract word take context into account your case doesn impli that case equal thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men bobbi mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu april true muslim left world
alt.atheism	islam jehovah wit articl apr princeton edu qpliu princeton edu write articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write god creat lucif perfect natur and gave angel free moral will god prevent lucif fall take abil choos moral altern worship god worship lucif moral choic determin will determin will qpliu princeton edu standard opinion opinion delta correl bobbi post ago you that lucif had free will believ contrari you talk lucif can you suggest experi determin you wrong you claim that you norman
alt.atheism	had share thi articl apr acm gen kilroi acm gen earthbound misfit write bena dec monash edu ben avel write warn you devout christian thi post offend and upset you numer ctrl delet heheh assum familiar christian fish symbol back volvo that perhap found thi morn come stolen pagan last last chanc blisfulli ignor hmm can put come thi sigh hate draw ascii char you can work you haven read skinni leg and tom robbin even accur modern religion appropri great book followup alt atheism reader slightli author thi craig hard kilroi acm gen acm bb jub lbh pnyyvat obmb craig thought deriv greek acronym greek isn thi jesu christ god iesu christo theo ichtho greek for fish ichthysauru apolog for dread greek perhap will correct your sig mean norman
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write reason that you atheist that you limit god give god form god not face wait minut thought you that allah presum allah god unknow and you claim concret fact you that god not face doesn bibl that god hindpart you suggest decid you you god hindpart face your us quotat mark god not face you interpret thi mean you peac bobbi mozumd norman
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write you give definit free will presenc omnisci will determin word god creat consciou be abil choos moral choic independ god will free will hypothet consciou be can ignor influenc circumst genet environ experi not determin idea hell make idea free will dubiou hand idea hell not power idea parabl for you onc main charact blah blah blah dai thug point mean gun omc and blast you hell omc thought thi thug and follow instruct that will avoid get blast hell hand thi thug and not follow instruct that will blast hell hmm attract choic obviou follow instruct omc found choic obviou omc had learn get blast hell made undesir omc notic that thug gun wasn real gun thug threat make omc thug and resum blah blah blah qpliu princeton edu standard opinion opinion delta correl
alt.atheism	gospel date articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl apr wam umd edu west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl apr wam umd edu west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write illiad undisput word god prove wrong disput ergo counter exampl you proven wrong disput your counter exampl ergo counter counter exampl you wrong and nanni nanni boo boo tbbbbbbbtttttthhhhh premi state that undisput fine illiad word god disput not disput that won matter prove wrong brian west thi not sig file earth thi not sig file for blink sig file ey tomorrow post west wam umd edu not miss doesn care jurass park diclaim thi meant thi made
alt.atheism	gospel date articl apr wam umd edu west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write fine illiad word god disput not disput that won matter prove wrong illiad contain word ergo can not word god you will humbl agre that word god will conce thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men bobbi mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu april true muslim left world
alt.atheism	american and evolut articl pik fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write you spend time post your atheism incident question god trivial fess matter you great deal two question import mithra your life todai import mithra becom fund group fanat school system teach your children that mithra true god jon jon care long work for individu don impos belief children add fund group purg scienc deni children access great wonder and skill and kid born creationist burden begin adult life cruel awaken for final light provid escap depth thi type ignor
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit jbrown batman bmd trw write syllog form thi logic valid construct your syllog form logic invalid construct and your comment don appli appeal mathew manti wrote excel post part faq logic argument jim not mathew manti success year logic student will that you logic correct poster logic incorrect noth pretent
alt.atheism	god moral american and evolut articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write babi diseas etc god creat life protein code mutabl and can evolv delv into deep discuss creation evolution main problem scenario you outlin consist evid that familiar not not support earth latest estim billion year and had life for billion year human for year fossil evid inidc that life chang and evolv and fact diseas ridden long peopl fossil that show sign diseas bone disord heck not fossil evid glean genet studi show that diseas for long long time human sin brought diseas indirectli necessarili exist human god creat origin genet code perfect and flaw and get sidetrack into theolog ramif origin sin main effect call origin sin for thi discuss remov human god protect sinc choic cut intim fellowship god addit sin caus come dominion satan assum dominion earth delet sinc human longer god protect satan dominion great feat for satan genet engin diseas bacteri viral and genet forc natur select tend improv surviv speci degener genet code offset thi evolutionari biologist biologi you claim will strongli disagre thi evid that human genet code start perfect condit adapt envion collect sens curiou you mean degener genet code human dna complex accumul error advers affect and abil fight diseas simpler dna bacteria and virus tend becom effici caus infect and diseas bad combin umm nah pretti good job adapt virus and bacteria and small percentag microlif harm human and that small percentag reasonalbi constant size rank chang for exampl bubon plagu us nasti diseas you agre pop time time even todai and doesn damag part that sanit even peopl diseas symptom tend sever past thi partli peopl suscept di long ago and nasti variant overgraz forgiv poor terminolog engin not doctor and di for lack nearbi host wrong thi gather acn hundr year and us nastier killer get nasti ag newborn that suffer genet viral and bacteri diseas disord wait minut question human creat perfect and you admit that inbuilt abilii fight diseas that satan make diseas gift human mean fight simpler make diseas lethal survivor can immun system imperfect present built into god want clear thi you that god plan ahead for time satan charg build immun system that not time design that god made immun system ahead time know that adam and ev sin and descend fight diseas thi mystic supernatur explan you prepar accept god not respons for diseas even satan had noth origin incept diseas evolut random chanc produc sinc human forsook god protect anoth puzzl exactli you mean perfect phrase creat perfect and flaw mind perfect system incap degrad time perfect system that will constant intervent becom imperfect not perfect system imho that god write masterpiec bunch gum wrapper held togeth elmer glue that origin genet instruct perfect written inferior materi that had carefulli tend fall apart god not us materi god incap creat system that maintain choos not delet summari newborn innoc god not suffer main point that isn evid for explan you give that awar couldn make nitpick and sincer rai ingl opinion not univers ingl engin umich edu michigan
alt.atheism	god moral long articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl apr leland stanford edu galahad leland stanford edu scott compton write delet back your post you fine job your seventh grade life scienc explain bad diseas caus satan and good thing result god want you secret can creat amino acid sequenc lab and guess sequenc curl into helix wow that can happen supernatur forc wow take advanc scienc degre and million dollar state art equip and thought intellig creat build block life foolish peopl advanc scienc degre us state art equip and spend million dollar simul tornado tornado not requir intellig exist not that equip need not state art studi product not gener you want that read your post and provid respons send copi jim brown bmd trw can read dai and post slip will sincer rai ingl opinion not univers ingl engin umich edu michigan
alt.atheism	anecdot islam date apr gmt jon livesei livesei solntz wpd sgi articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write don understand point thi petti sarcasm basic principl islam that born muslim testifi that god god and mohammad prophet god that long not explicitli reject islam word consid muslim muslim phenomenon you attempt make into gener rule psycholog direct odd basic islam principl you want attack islam you argu that islam explicitli contradict mozumd incorrect that commit bad act peopl temporarili becom atheist jon not incorrect defend islam defend islam infidel you can and will dare critic you atheist argument petti sarcasm can temporari atheist whenev and temporari atheist can that good muslim never explicitli reject islam temporari atheism temporari islam temporari marriag stick teflon religion conveni and easi clean you expect bunch peopl can even agre phase moon
alt.atheism	god moral long thi kind argument cri for comment jbrown batman bmd trw wrote articl apr leland stanford edu galahad leland stanford edu scott compton write jim you origin wrote god not creat diseas respons for maladi newborn god creat life protein code mutabl and can evolv delv into deep discuss creation evolution god creat origin genet code perfect and flaw you evid for thi code onc perfect and degrad sinc evid favour thi statement shouldn perhap biggest imperfect code that full code region intron call interven code region exon impress amount evid suggest that intron ancient origin like that earli exon repres earli protein domain number intron decreas increas appear that intron loss can occur and speci common ancestri quit similar exon intron structur gene hand possibl that intron insert present logic difficulti intron remov splice mechan thi present unus intron insert intron insert requir precis target random insert not toler sinc sequenc for intron remov splice mrna conserv transposit sequenc leav trace long termin repeat and target site duplic and not found intron sequenc recommend read textbook molecular biologi and genet post theolog argument thi watson molecular biologi gene darnel lodish baltimor molecular biologi cell for starter rememb question pose theolog context god diseas newborn and answer likewis theolog perspect valid pure scientif perspect scientif perspect support evid theolog perspect fail fulfil thi criterion you misread mean god made genet code perfect that doesn mean perfect evolv sinc for wors you cite refer that support your assert your assert valid scientif perspect you support evid fact claim that parasit and diseas perhap import thought for instanc sex evolv defenc parasit thi view support comput simul evolut tierra perhap thought higher energi rai rai gamma rai and cosmic rai that caus damag fact thermal energi that damag mild and easili fix enzymat action atmospher time god creat life recollect biologist not claim that life began billion year ago that half billion year earth creat primit support life rememb figur billion year ago for origin life earth estim replac creat form sinc invok creator earth can form recent estim ag earth rang billion year and earliest sign life not true fossil organ stromatolit layer date back billion year thi leav billion year for cell evolv can give refer thi base evolutionari biochemistri attend dominion great feat for satan genet engin diseas bacteri viral and genet forc natur select tend improv surviv speci degener genet code offset thi you want thi true you evid for thi suppos degener can understand scott reaction excus thi fetch that you jest you pathogen you point mutat you that can come spontan respons your last statement and you you that and accept fact you cannot that hope you don forget thi evid that suggest can come spontan you evid thi conclus scienc not healthi sign doubt and disbeliev path walk evid you and not present conclus prior thi theologi not us thi method doubt come conclus human dna complex accumul error advers affect and abil fight diseas simpler dna bacteria and virus tend becom effici caus infect and diseas bad combin newborn that suffer genet viral and bacteri diseas disord you suppos purpos not valid move bacteria and virus not exist diseas anoth manifest gener principl evolut replic save replic degradi effici method for dna surviv and replic effici method didn make present and for last time present evid for your claim that human dna degrad evolutionari process peopl claim that opposit true suppress select and bound degrad haven evid for claim thi relev discuss answer john question genet diseas and bacteri and viral diseas requir babi develop antibodi god fault origin question not noth evil god fault your explan not work fail miser you fact that you don that satan not respons and suppos that power evil satan exist inconceiv that respons for ill that affect mankind don job pun intend problem satan explain diseas inevit product evolut that anoth bad infer you oversimplifi point that your summari word take context never that peopl meant god punish get diseas that free moral choic attend consequ mankind choos reject god peopl sinc begin not expect god protect advers event entrop univers not expect thi god exist expect leav alon hear you your choic free thi interest philosoph question and answer not clear cut consequ you expect reject allah admit not perfect work good librari bookstor good start point thi price tea china question provid answer biologi and genet fine subject and import scientif endeavor explain god creat and set life process don explain creation life subsequ evolut and your proposit that not support evid thi recommend book invok prime mover evid for thi univers can come into exist intervent recent cosmolog theori hawk suggest peopl insist thi scotti for your fine and sage advic not highli motiv learn nitti gritti detail biologi and genet find fascin subject for realiz that detail not chang big pictur that god creat life begin abil chang and adapt environ evid for your big pictur and creat that capabl adapt can come into exist suprem read atkin creation revisit freeman petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	islam dress code for women articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write women soul islam peopl that muslim that women not soul admit never heard such view held muslim era heard christian era hold thi viewpoint not muslim you you not confus christian histori islam histori suppos predomin view turkish caliph not awar turkish caliph viewpoint thi can you refer found quot due imam ali shia follow men never obei your women whatsoev never give advic matter whatsoev even everydai life freeli give advic and will fritter wealth and disobei wish owner thi wealth religion alon left devic lack piti and virtu carnal desir stake easi enjoi great anxieti virtiou libertin corrupt whore ag depriv charm untaint vice qualiti miscreant complain oppress oppress make oath ly pretend refus men solicit desir ardent beg god emerg victori evil deed and preserv case good quot ma qanawi ref bouhdiba sexual islam wouldn thi quot exemplari islam viewpoint for prophet cousin and fourth khalif hazret ali thi frustrat night woman selim guncer selim guncer jaca negra luna grand csser asu aceituna alforja aunqu sepa lo camino guncer enuxha ea asu edu nunca llegar cordoba fgl
alt.atheism	islam author women articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write that your mistak for children mother rais child thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men compar that homo rais studi and you will point you claim that men stai home and rais child that fals made feminist that seek statu men you not recogn fact that men and women natur differ not physic mental bobbi question that your post aren sort extend elabor hoax you hard convinc entir civilis world that you feebl mind you talent for absurd thing sign for you print cut and put top your comput termin engag brain prior oper keyboard that admit laugh your stuff graham jenkin graham jenkin csiro csiro commonwealth scientif industri canberra australia research organis
alt.atheism	jew can hide keith cco articl daq fq austin ibm karner austin ibm karner write you german poster remark anti semit year sightse and roam come back kill palastinian and land back that casual antisemit can plenti wai critic isra polici insult jew jewish histori can you jon
alt.atheism	don innoc die death penalti jame tim psilink write maintain class and even prison place innoc peopl higher risk unjust death state execut class and occasion error higher risk kill kill mistak agre concept that type and murder massiv wast space and resourc don agre concept kill wrong you kill will punish you punish will kill you lack consist noth pretent
alt.atheism	islam dress code for women articl apr ennew ea asu edu guncer enuxha ea asu edu selim guncer write wouldn thi quot exemplari islam viewpoint for prophet cousin and fourth khalif hazret ali thi frustrat night woman that interest women reaction record frustrat night man that consid import jon
alt.atheism	creator articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl apr bradford newnham bradford leonard newnham write delet argument incredul not consid valid form reason sinc mediev time delet interest that you mention that argument incredul not consid valid form reason sinc mediev time quit agre atheist engag time read post atheist post state that cannot graciou and love god can such evil and suffer occur earth simpli cannot envis not true thi not argument incredul don you present argument incredul not present thi manner present form and cannot offer convinc explan not unreason for explan for such phenomena that theism not provid convinc explan not argument theism favor theism offer explan and even adher purportedli theism give explan god complex motiv and reason for action action simpli fix evil whenev and occur even occur and thi argument incredul rank high reason atheist gener reject god and christian god not experi experi common reason lack evid theism favor you mileag vari thi univers bane human reason and ration wit that easier logic fallaci inept reason part oppon oneself heck snide thi onc fairli easi attack argument that not made strawmen man wisdom put log your ey you remov splinter your neighbor ey sage advic sincer raymond ingl ingl engin umich edu appl hour doctor kliban
alt.atheism	polit atheist keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write mathew mathew manti write perhap shouldn impris peopl watch close cost similar implant sort electron devic wait commit crime not implant such devic potenti crimin communist and atheist don follow your reason you propos punish peopl commit crime justif you for thi mathew propos public defenc mechan not treat electron devic improprieti wearer that step you propos perman bug potenti crimin thi not surfac sound bad thing defin potenti crimin govern dai decid that member opposit parti make you potenti crimin openli defi govern becom lethal practic thi not conduc free societi mathew that implant electron surveil devic peopl improprieti that person type crime chanc recidiv basic you crimin justic system punish for offend and possibl deterr futur offend mathew see mean rehabilit for offend cynic you jeff
alt.atheism	satan articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write nanci ann miller write corrupt and theori pretti weak comparison current hebrew text version and translat show that text fact chang space two millennia thi shouldn that supris peopl text thi manner like make pain make good copi king jame mate wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god john burk jdb summa tamu edu
alt.atheism	islam marriag date tue apr gmt karner karner austin ibm articl apr cadenc ma cadenc masud khan write articl qav austin ibm karner austin ibm karner write you want name name offici record pseudo marriag perform for conveni happen typic that woman will move lover scrupl legal contract speak man util loophol enter into temporari religi marriag contract order sex complain care perhap you alert your imam that thi practic widespread you take muslim men wit penetr decid practic exist you astound level ignor you displai muslim not allow enter temporari marriag that evid for outlaw practis your fact straight buddi give refer for you ly not widespread you fantasis fact contrari your fantasi not practis muslim you miss post thi topic quot indonesian handbook and fred rice comment temporari marriag will glad repost will you accept that practic muslim will you continu claim that ly and that not practis muslim don karner that ly sinc you noth thi practic you can contribut discuss accus ly perhap your ignor show learn islam learn muslim open your ey you will thing atheist
alt.atheism	don innoc die death penalti articl chrisb baarni chrisb tafe edu chri bell write kill wrong you kill will punish you punish will kill you lack consist not hold peopl will wrong you hold peopl will will punish you punish will hold you your will punish isn privat person anoth privat person for appar reason lead punish fine suppos jim lippard lippard ccit arizona edu dept philosophi lippard arizvm bitnet univers arizona tucson
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl suopanki apr stekt oulu suopanki stekt oulu heikki suopanki write god etern jesu god jesu etern thi work logic and mathemat god set thing etern jesu subset god jesu belong set thing etern premis and conclus not properli translat ident statement sinc statement predic ident translat predic letter design god and design jesu and predic letter for properti etern premis and conclus second premis appear ident case can properli symbol your remark that jesu subset god suggest that strict ident not desir premis mean that member make set god properti etern conclus follow jim lippard lippard ccit arizona edu dept philosophi lippard arizvm bitnet univers arizona tucson
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit articl chrisb baarni chrisb tafe edu chri bell write jbrown batman bmd trw write syllog form thi logic valid construct your syllog form logic invalid construct and your comment don appli ident syllog valid predic second syllog invalid syllog you point valid whether predic design individu jim lippard lippard ccit arizona edu dept philosophi lippard arizvm bitnet univers arizona tucson
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout student write roger colin shous write radic gai dogma claim not claim claim know doesn twenti instanc thi kind muddlehead fourth reich sophistiqu shit post fact not instanc count reproduc viru you word question thi respons weasel shous and stan krieger possibl studi dispassion and figur work rememb you learn combat clone into offic contribut your insight your favorit abnorm psych ward learn overcom your repugn for serial murder thi post total uncal for rec scout point rais and answer roger and state support bsa posit issu specif that homosexu behavior constitut violat scout oath specif promis live moral straight noth discuss cloud issu comparison black minor meaningless compar appl orang peopl can control race can control behavior possibl discuss rec scout thi issu includ bsa deni live and worship don doesn mean that bsa big bad wolf for adher recogn posit religi and moral standard societi establish and continu base stan krieger opinion advic suggest even unix system laboratori relat employ summit smk usl
alt.atheism	satan articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write pnanci ann miller write favorit repli you liter mind complaint that bibl inspir god and that import make damn translat and scribe and peopl interpret and copi get liter not put merit that corrupt and and man even origin inspir god pthe corrupt and theori pretti weak comparison pcurrent hebrew text version and translat show that text pha fact chang space two millennia thi pshouldn that supris peopl text thi manner pare like make pain make good copi corrupt time good that bibl construct year jesu death text merchant ow thi and ow that can liter word not intend for such nonsens author bibl not plager asian for content that can interper make sens
alt.atheism	american and evolut atheism incident and question god trivial matter great deal idiot forc belief enforc creation myth taught scientif fact school can moral moral god success presidenti candid that atheist shouldn consid citizen and couldn patriot thi nation god fundi parti that provid presid unit state america that can forc belief rest countri cetera that subscrib alt atheism and middl thi peopl aren mind reader pop alt atheism don concoct straw man reason don share belief you accept thi thi isn dig fundamentalist christian told alt atheism that reject allah proud embrac islam and that reject krishna ey close religi nut post alt atheism kind milit christian can accept that don share belief thi kind stuff talk religion misc belong atheism isn belief absenc belief god you problem thi bill pfirst that atheism fact belief beilief pbecaus belief you hold ador and faith atheist god thi cannot proven you except thi pfaith alon that belief secondli you complain pfundament christian forc belief you you don pmention atheist such madamm murri hare founder pof atheist associ austin texa and robert sherman chicago area forc belief rid god societi ban religi paint park chistma forc citi chang town seal mention god sherman slogan god trust american currenc you talk creation myth fact myth and tha phave concret evidec thi you pdon and that enforc point that your atheism belief christian thi not show isn pmark covalt real problem argument christian that ignor origin that asiat origin christian becom good ego centric buddhist suppos listen opinion speak not for place employ christ rate and will atf follow koresh current christ ascent heaven
alt.atheism	alt atheism faq introduct atheism addit faq atheist hospit recal correctli john hopkin built provid medic servic back religi group make hospit dedic glori weak atheism check thi brian evan bad mood bad mood bad mood bevan carina unm edu haven had sex virgin mari
alt.atheism	theist post articl aic nrl navi mil khan itd itd nrl navi mil umar khan write stuff delet concord for faq translat consid authorit orthodox commentari for faq faq for milit atheist and anoth for moder atheist you read faq you resolv differ interpret hmmmmmmmmmmmm can put question follow religion you moslem resolv differ opinion don that interpret quran read soc cultur newsgroup you will zillion interpret naren naren tekig pen tek standard disclaim appli
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write horribl death result atheism list kill name religion iran iraq war civil war sudan riot india pakistan massacar bangladesh inquist america million crusad that peopl can add lot list bobbi standard excus will not accept naren standard disclaim appli
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism nanci ann miller andrew cmu edu write snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write horribl death result atheism quit horribl death result atheist and theist perhap sinc bit weak histori somon give list war caus led theist thi thread argu valid religi viewpoint utilitarian principl atheism religion wrong death underli moral that death wrong thi arbitrari measur valid epistemolog richard harlequin internet richard harlequin internet rptb cambridg phoenix janet zen buddhist
alt.atheism	radic agnost not repli zazen austin ibm welbon mean that can possibl prove doubt that god not exist mean lack thi abil absolut proof atheist becom act faith and and thi cannot accept accept noth blind faith invis pink fly unicorn harbor belief good evid for god exist not folk call thi agnostic not suffer blind faith don worri happi for atheist lack belief god secondari epistemolog consider accept reliabl know valid logic argument for exist god empir evid that exist philosoph and theologian agre that idea god that accept faith faith belief sound logic basi empir evid reliabl know noth peopl accept absenc possibl proof even agre els word faith mean that found thi person reliabl past judg like reliabl sourc find faith reliabl logic and empir evid assum will provid reliabl knowledg god differ atheist and theist fundament whether not faith held reliabl know agnost poster whether faith god god theist believ that faith accept basi for belief god even reject faith reliabl time for exampl work scientist atheist believ that logic and empir evid lead reliabl knowledg agnostic defens posit theism atheism sceptic regard knowledg evid god santa clau easter bunni point that atheist doesn requir absolut knowledg lack god don that such thing absolut knowledg atheism and simplest theori fit lack fact and held contrari evid found david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	keith ignor mam mous cmhnet org mike mcangu write wouldn start wait religi organ longer tax exempt beef you lobbi group you ask answer encompass tax exempt statu religi organ wouldn that wouldn that religion longer tax exempt wrong lobbi attempt influenc polit keith
alt.atheism	keith schneider stealth poster mam mous cmhnet org mike mcangu write understand you order talk knowledg religion atheist immers religion that rare individu left you don understand that don peopl can discuss subject merit religion object thi obviou peopl that religion thi almost isn true you threaten motto peopl that us motto tool tool gun and ax tool us for murder that don motto misus warrant remov not thi case keith
alt.atheism	keith schneider stealth poster cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan write somewhat agre come theist religion matter that religion drug onc us difficult that order experi religion necessarili blind faith and onc blind faith diffcult for you reason back atheism unreason peopl religion order judg ask peopl dy find death can judg death dead judg religion experienc peopl that religion bad account and that etc don total agre thi cannot religi folk act had not expos religion peopl help wai basic can not judg whether religion rout for individu even for gener popul can that not for person you can choos not us religion hard find benefit you state keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist mmwang adob michael wang write for rigor definit spend rest live argu christian believ don argu thi you that motto point that thi countri proud freedom religion and that thi that distinguish countri your opinion not share peopl gather perhap not that seek make govern recogn christian domin religion thi countri not infring right not share belief peopl not make govern recogn christian domin religion thi countri motto infring right not share belief and that govern recogn that christian domin religion thi countri mean don you realiz recogn thi thi isn that suppos teach christian that peopl person don motto major concern you agre discuss sinc peopl don associ christma jesu anymor don problem can you prove your assert that peopl don associ christma jesu anymor hear quit bit christma and jesu wouldn thi figur promin holidai associ high degre you that associ jesu person level and that think never talk that can you prove that peopl associ christma importantli jesu point that peopl associ christma jesu doesn matter peopl major not number matter take major major power discrimin doesn keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write probabl that automobil system will kill innoc accid asymptot close court system doesn automobil system can opt thi isn true peopl forc us automobil system don us choic wai get secondli make automobil system safe recogn danger innoc current exampl not make court system safer fairli easili replac fatal punish fatal punish that court system refin hundr year britain and countri make fair can made remov death penalti life imprison sound fatal punish keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist dace shrike und roi dace write keith allan schneider keith cco caltech edu wrote soldier depend religion for number purpos and doubt depend cocain don militari pai for coca field religion benefit combat situat benefit cocain keith
alt.atheism	pompou ass mv psuvm psu edu write peopl fanat propogand thi that thi conflict atheist and religi impress that outlaw religion contintu remov thing religi refer that not peopl ask perhap you you fundamentalist thi oppress not allow oppress you not shown you thi idea that peopl atheism religion winner can your groundless predict that thi will happen you haven into account propoganda rememb you ask german wwii jew shoudl slaughter answer propoganda machin roll toler you take small group fanat whip gener frenzi propoganda machin gear number issu includ abort and gai thing that happen pass amend intens scrutini and fail outlaw abort prime goal that issu yep sooo effect haven manag outlaw abort due object court manag creat quit problem for peopl that want abort creat similar problem for and wors can stop abort block clinic etc imagin stop atheism margin error larg you talk two peopl your that your opinion branch and inform survei half dozen and you question unbias keith you claim that question bias minut post answer agre ask remov motto christian portion express regret loss point that motto will not work express desir rape murder pillag etc you basic claim you convinc individu you convinc room nation for atheist portion express disgust motto note harass christian us motto justifi and glad never support that minor problem that can easili contrast happen like christian design motto motto jesu you that refer christian christian wrote christian that religion and wrong includ religion realm correct doubt that religion meant includ not clear religi convict franci scott kei motto can attribut clear that believ god and sure christian that you don that you that christian activ despis religion that met haven and don christian that queri think mean and not peopl faith christian popular suppos you peopl ask hindu moselem and jew and that applic can that peopl that pretti accur represent faith good idea assum that dissent view issu you assum that view and noth lead thi conclus evid contrari doubt that dissent opinion you claim provid evid for your assert and don access congression record can compar christian nazi interest sens that can convinc chang belief motto monei doesn cost you extra you abolish motto pai di and plate redon peopl paid chang motto you show that good reason chang doubt that us plate for year print thi make easi remov motto simpli make year plate your claim evid that will pai extra provid evid for thi assert you that redesign plate each year your argument conveni delet that motto cost lot monei thi not correct read didn mention jesu issu distinct religion and not religi and not religi motto refer god religi motto question whether not christian you doubt thi provid evid for thi assert that religion thi countri and religion ussr that quot and includ atheist gener don that quot lost mention jesu advoc religion religion specif religion not mention you miss thi point that motto didn that motto doesn impli your belief doesn that trust form god that nation thi obviou not includ thi doubt your claim that motto refer christian base fact that christian religion wrong and that motto written christian doubt your claim you that christian that religion outlaw wrong that silli flat earther wrong don advoc banish base thi idea doubt that addit expens even incur remov motto provid evid for your claim that that such cost insignific mention slight cost you that motto cost lot monei currenc disregard digress motto us for harass and purpos found for not remov motto gener don purpos don remov benefit outweigh consequ and you vote opinion you that main reason motto requir law bother atheist you that thi major congress time had mind you show opinion peopl put that concern you concern opinion entir congress not that complet major share purpos confront godless commun thi motto not major that put gener public not anti atheist intent peopl daresai peopl rememb time kei wrote anthem rememb debat surround motto rememb that peopl intend messag atheist don you includ thi your survei that you conduct you claim that scientist claim doubt thi provid evid for your assert scientist probabl that einstein rel worthi mean einstein good chanc that time for court method scientist us can appli not agre court default good record you not agre time you that decis good evid favor point you you didn agre court allow congress attempt make amend prohibit flag burn you don realiz that thi extern realm court power can confid that you court power mean you don court work can you particip discuss court judg can speak congress and you ignor abort gag rule you make your claim abort that inappropri for suprem court justic testifi congress consider constitut amend and order for court rule case present mushroom flower tree build sign analog that find offens present doesn mean that right violat talk put peopl keith not mushroom caus that mushroom exist you find thing offens mushroom farm mushroom can plant and don mushroom pizza thi not case motto and you ignor harass result motto and you ignor that line peopl forc put motto forc put motto you mean keith
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit suopanki stekt oulu write apr mst jbrown batman bmd trw god etern jesu god jesu etern thi work logic and mathemat god set thing etern jesu subset god jesu belong set thing etern isn logic merced car that girl merced that girl car your phrase ambigu write carefulli two possibl thing call merced car that girl call merced that girl car that valid piec logic deduct not sound statement fals similarli hold that jim exampl valid not sound anoth interpret you wrote exist car call merced that girl call merced that girl car isn valid mathew
alt.atheism	polit atheist keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write mathew mathew manti write perhap shouldn impris peopl watch close cost similar implant sort electron devic wait commit crime not implant such devic potenti crimin communist and atheist don follow your reason you propos punish peopl commit crime justif you for thi ironi keith mathew
alt.atheism	polit atheist keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write mathew mathew manti write for rape sure burden guilt sole rapist not you thrown into cage tiger and maul you blame tiger tiger not sentient push into pool dolphin and attack inclin blame dolphin person push dolphin not aggress and develop brain and capac for abstract thought matter fact tiger rare attack human human provok cage small that count provoc mathew
alt.atheism	polit atheist kmr cwru edu keith ryan write almost that zyklon and painless method death not insert soem form and ethnic and minor group kill mutil and extermin histori guess not unusu you agre that holocost allow constitut punish doubt reciev consid fair trial standard don happen japanes citizen world war you prepar round peopl and stick concentr camp trial short step gass trial that nazi origin intend imprison jew final solut dreamt partli couldn afford run camp devast caus goer total war weren gass gener di malnutrit diseas mathew
alt.atheism	atheist dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl manti toni lezard toni manti write delet opinion that strong atheist posit requir belief for comfort strong atheist care comment human come idea spiritu parent artifact human thought evid for that quit overwhelm and inform content conceiv vanish word god make sens and explain phenomenon religion god concept useless and don introduc assumpt order show that leap faith requir for your mileag vari fulli agre that don god exist god exist mandtbacka finabo abo mat andtbacka point hing you word mean thi bound definit strong and weak atheism faq atheism character absenc belief exist god atheist and that god not exist refer weak atheist posit and strong atheism import note differ two posit weak atheism simpl sceptic disbelief exist god strong atheism posit belief that god not exist not fall into trap assum that atheist strong atheist mathew introduct atheism version last modifi apr faq clarifi pin thi notion belief can toni lezard toni manti toni manti uknet thing toni manti nsfnet relai last resort arl phx cam pgp public kei request
alt.atheism	polit atheist mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write you mean circular not recurs that semant recurs problem horribl ineffici assembl programm tail recurs function scheme effici iter loop doesn program assembl will heard optim compil mathew
alt.atheism	anecdot islam edu jaeger buphi edu write deletia don understand point thi petti sarcasm basic principl islam that born muslim testifi that god god and mohammad prophet god that long not explicitli reject islam word consid muslim muslim phenomenon you attempt make into gener rule psycholog direct odd basic islam principl you want attack islam you argu that islam explicitli contradict delet mention chop hand punish for theft saudi arabia assum thi wouldn and assum peopl fit your requir for muslim find highli like you convinc bobbi mozumd that muslim chop peopl hand come back you succeed disclaim great young and insan
alt.atheism	fundament contradict visit jw jbrown batman bmd trw write will determin word god creat consciou be abil choos moral choic independ god will free will not repres paragraph thought hop strike contradict fabl lucif fall recal specul base biblic text rcism show that benedikt point lucif had perfect natur had free will choos evil that choic come genesi that ev offer opportun sin tempter assum satan lucif discov invent creat call action you will that god had not origin bibl mention lucif free will make big fuss mankind free will strike fact rationalis and fact salvat not that christian ident mind salvat and free will tightli coupl theologi roman cathol theologian explain lucif fall lucif had perfect natur man fall execut act that contradict natur and effect evil exist for time lucio lucio proxima alt tab stop
alt.atheism	atheist toni lezard toni manti write opinion that strong atheist posit requir belief for comfort strong atheist care comment can strong atheist outnumb alt atheism weak atheist cost repudi faq made strong weak atheism issu context alt atheism continu attack basi that strong atheist exist god separ valid cover ars that infinit grei area weak and strong strong and unattain mathemat atheism logic can support weak atheist posit effect strong atheist and mathemat justifi strong atheist posit show that evid present favour god scrutini faulti read faq correctli argument for exist god gener repres mainstream theologian found unassail thi adequ evid that real god undefin definit found watertight turn accept suffici base disbelief each and conceiv god fuzzi edg opinion perhap chang thread subject lucio lucio proxima alt tab stop
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write rushdi case legitim thi issu rushdi action had effect islam countri that not simpl that didn commit crime islam countri simpl person commit crime countri border time commit doesn matter physic manifest for instanc hack into nasa am research lab and delet file commit crime unit kingdom author prosecut law law automat thi net author put pressur site holland holland had anti crack legisl and view hacker haven system administr similarli compani call red hot televis broadcast pornograph materi can receiv britain broadcast britain commit crime not broadcast denmark british govern powerless spite appar law break not lawyer wrong confusingli countri not mathew
alt.atheism	anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write case prostitut man and prostitut punish public quit sever delet gregg you cannot lenient and punish sever public except impli almost matter that depend statist and punish public power for exampl noth islam men rape women time blow rapist head public call that lenienc wouldn you you that exampl not lenient end argument and chop hand head peopl not lenient appear that you intern claim legal system check suit descript and wasn argument that take men rape woman islam law don approv prostitut and custom word punish violat right and punish sever public anoth pointer hysteria connect sexual religion you even don can you give answer that you evid for your opposit claim thi case don accept complex ridden view orient goatherd forget that west histor sexual neurosi orient goatherd intellectu fact memori serv and will connect primit machism orient and islam peopl agre sex fine and assum that god clue detriment effect supress huh heard aid you that god evil diseas exist bla bla you miss point aid spread sex necessarili spread sex futher point import point urg for sex stronger fear aid even stronger religi attempt channel forbid sex consequ suppress sex wors consequ aid note that idea that end aid sex not control complet counterfactu and sinc you brought point your god evil not benedikt
alt.atheism	biblic rape articl apr watson ibm strom watson ibm rob strom write articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write didn time read rest post had respond thi absolut not messian jew anoth mistak read alt messian carefulli benedikt
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout articl apr midwai uchicago edu shou midwai uchicago edu write articl dhinn dsi dsinc perri dsinc jim perri write bigot never conced that bigotri irrat peopl determin that examin argument expect you set wonder world bigot whomev you thi comfort for you imagin never entertain argument your belief system simpli accus person make bigot thi thread vituper slop venom into alt atheism spend time entertain argument belief system resort accus bigotri somewhat iron that exposur bigotri happen thi instanc origin rec scout sinc understood scout teach toler and divers understand bigotri irrat prejudic peopl happen race religion ethnic background sex inconsequenti characterist evid that sexual orient and lack belief god exactli such inconsequenti characterist pend evid conclud that show prejudic such peopl bigot and organ that exclud such peopl discriminatori jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	american and evolut articl tinn senat bedfellow mit edu bob thnext mit edu robert singleton write delet will argu that your statement that god exist rest faith that you make posit statement that god exist strong atheism don and don and don not weak atheism onc not god that god not exist maintain posit even read faq that strong atheism requir faith us view you that drive car requir faith that car drive for conclus and faith premis and argument us languag problem regard faith and exist christian maintain that god not exist exist mean space and time god not god kierkegaard onc that god not exist etern thi feel pointless debat call exist god and that not that god sourc and ground you that god not exist accept thi statement mean two thing follow will us phrase exist god usual sens and thi sens that you clarif you mean exist god that word game term god us you us definit your thing commonli accept you defin god and that not exist exist not exist interestingli that exist exist indubit statement god exist wast time exist us and replac god you impli case your definit and your argument incomplet make fallaci delet can never prove that god not exist you that you god not exist and that thi opinion base observ will observt you refer observ pro con that valid establish posit belief delet that follow aren observ base assumpt that exist and wouldn you level definit that assumpt god meaning not reject that concept your evid for that god meaning level benedikt
alt.atheism	moral constant biblic rape thi frai thread turn into patent alt atheism ping pong game and don strong disagr stick thing don quit follow argument that contradict argu that bibl enlighten for time closer moral good base standard and past experi hand hope thi summar thi argument adequ and hand articl apr watson ibm strom watson ibm rob strom write articl phpe inn dsi dsinc perri dsinc jim perri write disclaim speak jewish perspect bibl mean call testament and interpret not necessarili raw text court case commentari and tradit pass jewish commun thi crux you judg bibl long line tradit and interpret come current dai merit cultur artifact will correspond close contemporari valu that bibl us todai shouldn that judg peopl us scissor cut paper shouldn consum report test scissor for paper cut abil even scissor design origin cut cloth that possibl good judg us bibl teach jewish moral todai fair claim that thi highli interpret version enlighten for time attempt extend analog thi that origin scissor maker unusu advanc paper cut for time even cut cloth and had never even heard paper not argu that bibl disgust histori depict modern standard histori full similar abus and don biblic account wors contemporari possibl our hand don reason histori describ bibl show abus contemporari our that complex and benign moral tradit evolv base mythic interpret that histori interest don fair that long tradit interpret and us attack condemn origin histori jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	polit atheist mathew mathew manti write for rape sure burden guilt sole rapist you forc live rapist will case part respons can accept that rapist hypnot view sole respons for action not necessarili rapist such for instanc you intention stick your finger into load mousetrap and snap fault keith
alt.atheism	islam author women articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men compar that homo rais studi and you will point bobbi you priceless you that polici bobbi post give damn flick thread high speed search for post bobbi gener pile followup and extract hilari quot inevit present for sig purpos work for for gui arriv and ask whether bobbi for real you betcha alt atheism and rest assur that get wors pearl wisdom bobbi reproduc below keith keep big file such stuff allah infinit wisdom univers creat noth and allah exist bobbi mozumd prove exist allah wait you that human rare reason doesn that contradict atheism explain logic and reason thi contradict atheism that prove fals bobbi mozumd prove exist allah believ contradictori quran for allah not exist bobbi mozumd prove exist allah and thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men compar that homo rais studi and you will point bobbi mozumd islam rigor alt atheism mmmmm qualiti and quantiti voic islam pbuh cheer simon simon clippingdal simon dc warwick depart comput scienc tel univers warwick fax coventri
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout articl apr cbnewsl att stank cbnewsl att stan krieger write point rais and answer roger and state support bsa posit issu specif that homosexu behavior constitut violat scout oath specif promis live moral straight defin moral straight and don even that straight us impli hetersexu behavior straight slang word opposit gai thi alot famili valu talk misteri thing that relat navi men that tatoo that mom love mom make for viril men bobbi mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu april true muslim left world
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout articl apr cbnewsl att stank cbnewsl att stan krieger write roger and state support bsa posit issu specif that homosexu behavior constitut violat scout oath specif promis live moral straight noth discuss appar not respons claim that terrifi gai peopl not indoctrin children lifestyl word that effect roger calm carefulli written detail letter explain simpli bsa polici terrifi not us inflammatori languag and left extrem open for answer not receiv answer can conclud that roger consid posit indefens simpli not worth defend cloud issu comparison black minor meaningless compar appl orang peopl can control race can control behavior fact that exactli point peopl can control behavior that fact for blanket ban homosexu possibl discuss rec scout thi issu you tim pierc ust tele madr twpierc unix amherst edu del asesino que graciosa bitnet twpierc amherst pedro almodovar
alt.atheism	biblic rape articl apr watson ibm strom watson ibm rob strom write delet thread biblic rape initi david hunt post articl feu xsf kpc andrew cmu edu david hunt bluelobst cmu edu write pretti biblic rule for allow rape prison code that etc knowledg soul refer ask narrow question and gave narrow answer that wrong apolog delet david hunt post didn mention god respons you bring idea bibl god jew don thi liter sens fun met minor and god refer action god god effect rob not intim jewish theologi understand that you messian jew correct wrong appear that view messian jew metaphys that major jew jewish theologi quit distinct christian god view heard that for jew attribut evil god for christian bibl effect interact god man delet thought agre that jew disagre set core belief that agre that command access and written languag time and anoth that legal system updat context metaphys even process adapt command not transcend justif process lie metaphys specualt you break shackl metaphys your system delet you explain thi respect origin command discuss that command that you feel rape woman prison you wait and marri thi command invalid book that command commit genocid reprehens deed context repuls and foul plai imo invok rel enlighten passag exampl for content book big delet point that that connect theologi you us and interpret bibl loos interpret bibl base long tradit jewish scholar interpret bibl theologi doesn enter into jewish atheist interpret law chariti essenti not interpret law interpret bibl exampl that sodom and gomorrha mean argu god idea that metaphor and you argu god that mean that alon theo logic question proof theologi us you pose anoth metaphys riddl you you wrote thi fine major spirit absolut power absolut knowledg and appear limit mean will commun form spiritu big friend you admit that god thi context somewhat unusu assumpt that cannot creat univers and that passag bibl refer that omnipot crap that meant riddl import question light for instanc passag witrh sodom and gomorrha mean connect text fact that exist and your interpret pure arbitrari question carri burden biblic text simpli write book that convei messag you answer that can becuas peculiar biblic inform lost that hold true book and question remain bibl special place can replac bargain danger content bibl messag that includ delet you danger metaph us bibl danger danger frozen system law law wors system not not system delet read two stori import help poor and god spirit and god bodi import help poor resolv contradict corpor natur god read two stori bibl that god command peopl kill children for idolat and anoth god kill children directli import resolv messag that children kill god and argument you fallaci not import context you find god corpor not can crucial question religi believ resolv contradict that choos possibl arbitrari and advantag attribut decis god cannot resolv question statement good good depend question benedikt
alt.atheism	atheist articl epvk manti toni lezard toni manti write delet word god make sens and explain phenomenon religion god concept useless and don introduc assumpt order show that fulli agre that don god exist god exist mandtbacka finabo abo mat andtbacka point hing you word mean for god exist and don god exist word that statement god interfer thi world fals meaningless ontolog can fairli conclud that exist meaningless not exist pragmat definit truth exist meaningless make exist even logic fals problem such statement that can disprov subject god definit and case subject god even make sens troubl god definit that includ form object exist consequ god affect believ deriv interfer life delet faq clarifi pin thi notion belief can honestli don problem benedikt
alt.atheism	sex allow marriag ration islam marriag mar ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write case that wrong world will end peopl start believ islam and that horror mankind caus lack belief atheism for last time bobbi lack belief your god not impli atheism moslem aren moral not mean don god name allah allah not thing your allah moslem believ that god exist theist not true follow islam murder victim year caus atheism poverti massiv hate crime such low respect for human bodi distrust peopl wrong caus atheism peac jerk bobbi mozumd sami aario can you measur atom you can explod tut sunlight compris atom your stupid mind stupid stupid ero plan outer space disclaim don agre ero
alt.atheism	motto mania mathew write prefer mark jason dominu suggest that motto chang mind your fuck busi thi era aid isn fuck interest semi propos motto recent gloriou state maryland state state song refer abraham lincoln tyrant peopl wound state motto inherit calvert fatti maschii parol femin you read italian manli deed womanli word that effect state not long ago had women repres thi repres problem offici solut chang translat mean strong deed gentl word person suggest chang walk softli and carri big stick wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit good grief amount energi spent lousi syllog volum for true posit reason thi group wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	benediktin metaphys benedikt rosenau write great author contradictori cannot exist contradictori properti languag correct thi thing defin contradictori languag not exist will object definit realiti you amend thing describ contradictori languag not exist come plainli fals failur descript failur descript not objectivist rememb wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	gospel date you requir amount evid that pair bluejean and superhuman power us argument that us natur and claim that you cannot superhuman power you human superhuman power human and sinc you human power you not human you cannot superhuman power sound good you evid question depend context thi group sinc you post american colleg site will that you pair blue jean and assum coher your posit will that you not superhuman power argument evid respect you exist sic jesu assum that you mean man special power etc yep will agre that that man call jesu fact live fact will agre that man name jesu reason that wasn man good claim extradinari virgin birth virgin sens not sexual intercours resurect son god etc claim requir extra evid extra evid don start evid cannot evid for cynic thi group accept for second foundat religion claim risen jesu back dai period believ and discount thi group sinc ancient choos dismiss thing metaphys relationship even agre argu length mean don evid interpret extraordinari claim claim statement that speaker will not accept evid matter wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	remark admiss jon livesei write not attempt distinguish flavour christian loudli claim true christian obviou that you don attempt you awar that don loudli claim true christian avoid phrase not christian ownership issu phrase nicen christian attempt identifi vast major christian roughli similar viewpoint core theolog issu jw not fall thi group and fact espous posit arian reject nicen church and virtual wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	gospel date benedikt rosenau write argument follow oid quot john not almost codifi matthew luke consid similar point knowledg such and not sourc assum you present accur don thi argument lead firm conclus materi john not exactli refer for grant similar matt luke materi almost relationship two john get straight jesu mouth talk date text not ag author usual explan for time order mark matthew and luke not respect ag matthew read text mark and luke that matthew and that mark version usual theori heard matthew and luke independ reli mark and that luke reli matthew wouldn grate inconsist geneolog for thing assum that john knew content luke text evid for that not overwhelm admittedli thi part that that you point refer grate haven info hand late earli and possibl shed doubt order put john rest close gap suppos write and exist copi quit bit origin copi can written and surviv becom probabl and don step remov sourc that bad luke and mark and matthew learn stori directli dicipl cannot sort big transform jesu gospel that peopl posit new report gener get inform thi and john dicipl noth that john discipl not gener accept style and languag togeth theologi us counterargu not impress theologi argument point thi and point earlier cannot make argument peter reason not accept authent letter step and gener remov bad even time compar that report similar event centuri almost illiter societi analog report talk particip not bad word not origin mark and argument base mark pretti weak statement divin not that section and case agre that import epistl predat mark wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	yeah benedikt rosenau write and that revel thing charlei you talk thi intellectu engag revel risk take peopl that concept metaphys and religi knowledg contradict not objectivist not impress problem conceptu problem thi case bad that explain quantum mechan and rel term ordinari experi can rough understand languag perspect ordinari phenomena inconsist and perspect describ inexact charit analog situat supposedli obtain metaphys problem that descript languag not and case hold reliabl inform can you show you establish that thi word reliabl essenti meaningless context you can show reliabl can determin wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	radic agnost not articl apr cnsvax uwec edu nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye wrote repli zazen austin ibm welbon mean that can possibl prove doubt that god not exist mean lack thi abil absolut proof atheist becom act faith and and thi cannot accept accept noth blind faith invis pink fly unicorn harbor belief good evid for god exist not folk call thi agnostic not suffer blind faith don worri happi for atheist lack belief god secondari epistemolog consider accept reliabl know valid logic argument for exist god empir evid that exist philosoph and theologian agre that idea god that accept faith faith belief sound logic basi empir evid reliabl know you expand your definit know bit monolith not that you intend that don for exampl distinguish know equal appl appl equal appl french know that jerri lewi auteur and mean socrat thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel thi epigraph perhap issu learn absurd merit explor gene
alt.atheism	polit atheist bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write person object that find capit punish cruel and unusu punish circumst can painless isn cruel and occur frequent sinc dawn time unusu don issu number singl innoc life innoc die due you singl accident fals execut issu keith
alt.atheism	yeah articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write for year period ask charlei wingat explain thi mythic altern ration propound enthusiast pop month reluct explain that not hot time that altern that you caught and altern point ration isn altern problem metaphys and religi knowledg unsolv human cannot solv altern you basi whatsoev for your claim usual line you call prejudg atheism and disput that reason you admit that you altern basi for claim that reason that reason inapplic religi knowledg possibl that reason conflict religi knowledg thi sound can provid ration defens for belief prefer discard ration accept that fals hope make you happi your repeat and unfound assert thi effect don advanc your jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	yeah articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write benedikt rosenau write and that revel thing charlei you talk thi intellectu engag revel risk take core question suggest scenario will grant that god exist and revel commun human revel take form paraphras your word thi infinit power deiti grab poor schmuck make dictat and hide for hundr year exist human not person experienc revel thi person observ that not revel element that contradict strongli aspect observ world thi person mutual contradictori claim revel base thi can thi person blame for conclud absent person revel that almost noth thi revel thing not objectivist not impress problem conceptu problem thi case bad that explain quantum mechan and rel term ordinari experi can rough understand languag perspect ordinari phenomena inconsist and perspect describ inexact charit analog situat supposedli obtain metaphys problem that descript languag not absent thi languag and absent observ support claim revel can blame for doubt thing drive thought long time thi come honest conclus that deiti noth propos religion that familiar happen christian god will held account for such honest mistak sincer rai ingl ingl engin umich edu meek can earth rest star robert heinlein
alt.atheism	ancient islam ritual pkqe inn lynx unm edu cfaehl vesta unm edu chri faehl write articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write delet point nutshel opinion that pre marit sex make likelihood extra marit sex probabl opinion extra marit sex help break partnership and lead greater divorc rate thi turn opinion creat trauma and stabl environ for children opinion like grow psycholog problem such depress etc and sex marriag long run harm societi that you draw link sex marriag noth adulteri onc commit into marriag issu commit you not foist pain your spous and confid you addit marriag busi not mine and not wit strong relationship that incorpor extra marit sex agre your assert children children not wit such confus relationship adulteri stress adult assum gener can expect children understand evid for opinion moment gener can cite for exampl read that centuri percentag youth and peopl gener suffer depress steadili climb western societi read refer usa similarli can detect trend greater occurr sex marriag thi centuri western societi sexual revolut even that sexual revolut not gradual weaken christian and christian moral teach sex marriag propos that two trend greater level gener depress societi and psycholog problem and greater sexual promiscu link prime cannot provid evid thi thi stage thesi reason and request that peopl ponder reason trend obes and trend depress you can pick your two favorit trend notic correl and make sweep statement gener mean you can and peopl that not mean that valid reason thesi gross oversimplif push pull factor peopl experi argument propos plausibl argument extra marit sex person truth main purpos for post show that plausibl argument can made extra marit sex thi stage not that thi viewpoint proven that that plausibl convinc you thi point view lot work research thi field etc order gather evid simpli not time note that that extra marit sex prime opinion gener greater level psycholog problem depress western societi not prime prime signific contribut thi trend you you view simplist you forgotten thi admit that factor that extra marit sex and imo subsequ destabil famili signific factor rise psycholog problem depress western societi thi centuri fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	ancient islam ritual ednclark kraken ednclark kraken itc edu jeffrei clark write cfaehl vesta unm edu chri faehl write reason trend obes and trend depress you can pick your two favorit trend notic correl and make sweep statement gener mean you can and peopl that not mean that valid reason thesi gross oversimplif push pull factor peopl experi basic social interact chang factor societi complic for control hold panic handl and hope that head for soft land thing for depress and destruct nuclear famili not due sole sex marriag note that never that depress and destruct nuclear famili due sole extra marit sex specif that prime thi not prime thi recogn that factor that extra marit sex and subsequ destabil famili signific factor rise psycholog problem includ depress west centuri fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	sex allow marriag ration islam marriag apr proxima alt lucio proxima alt lucio write daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write point view that argument sexism bad simpli not hold give you exampl permit woman temporarili leav job due pregnanc that allow happen sexist women nevertheless despit fact that sexist complet support such law fred you exasper sexism racial form discrimin obviou physic cultur differ deni portion popul right anoth thi context your exampl hold water whatsoev discrimin deni men matern leav fact quit convinc that experi male pregnanc for such futur father leav medic ground argu thi week ago men and women physic physiolog and psycholog recent evid for thi statement present book brainsex ann moir and david jessel recommend you find copi and read book overview recent scientif research thi topic and referenc women and men wai law can adequ into account area take into account wai men and women matern leav exampl thi take into account that women pregnant not give women rule give men treat women treat men thi instanc unjust thi simpli obviou exampl men and women intrins peopl make naiv argument that sexism oppress matern leav sexist men not pregnant men not access leav that women not extent degre and sexist matter man pregnant and matern leav never can and law sexist man can access matern leav matter hard pregnant hope thi clear matern leav exampl sexist law sexism reflect sexism natur make men and women differ men and women subtl pregnanc and find recommend you book brainsex your point that perhap dai men can pregnant fallaci men can dai becom pregnant will biolog becom women womb and factor requir for pregnanc wrap definit woman your argument examin fallaci you that men can sexist matern leav privileg that women can becom women support statement that matern leav sexist discrimin come woman deni opportun legal determin sexual inferior understand religi sexual discrimin and doubt that islam except femal not allow into priestli cast and gener subjug that aspir right equal human entitl offici priesthood islam thi function islam scholar femal islam scholar and femal islam scholar exist islam exampl earli islam histori prophet widow aisha recogn time and recogn time islam scholar matter sweetli you coat part role religion histor serv function oppress femal whether forc procreat extent opportun for improv deni access facil male offer you evid for your blanket statement religion and disput and women islam etc recent repost head islam and women your new site suggest you read repost soc religion islam disappear alt atheism soc religion islam forgot origin titl will email you you roman cathol church blatant culprit istitutionalis celib clergi religi woman attempt escap role child bearer and wrath god descend your statement that religion statement base simpli lack knowledg religion christian and perhap judaism accept your affirm that islam grant women right men you can show that muslim woman can aspir posit khomeini and artifici religi social obstacl path achiev thi aisha mention earlier not islam scholar stage militari leader show equival hillari rhodam clinton islam and discuss issu you prophet wife di hijra prophet journei mecca medina success businesswoman lucio you cannot make strong case for your viewpoint your viewpoint base ignor world religion fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	ancient islam ritual dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write discuss pro and con sex marriag person that part last partnership men and women that thi help provid stabl and secur environ for children grow delet addit chri faehl post homosexu islam viewpoint homosexu not norm for societi cannot islam viewpoint homosexu not research fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	benediktin metaphys articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write benedikt rosenau write great author contradictori cannot exist contradictori properti languag correct thi thing defin contradictori languag not exist will object definit realiti you amend thing describ contradictori languag not exist come plainli fals failur descript failur descript thi descript object that time euclidean squar and euclidean circl hold that object satisfi thi descript exist descript inconsist and describ object that not exist suppos point bicycl and that object time euclidean squar and euclidean circl thi not mean that bicycl not exist measn that descript incorrectli appli atheist descript god that present contradictori and describ that cannot exist your posit can gather that god exist descript atheist present simpli bad descript thi roughli analog never bicycl and for descript peopl claim told that euclidean circl squar can blame for doubt strongli that thi bicycl exist not objectivist rememb kid sincer rai ingl ingl engin umich edu meek can earth rest star robert heinlein
alt.atheism	islam author women articl apr dc warwick simon dc warwick simon clippingdal write for gui arriv and ask whether bobbi for real you betcha alt atheism and rest assur that get wors pearl wisdom bobbi reproduc below keith keep big file such stuff misplac diskett last coupl month effort bobbi replenish quickli recent favorit satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit good grief articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write amount energi spent lousi syllog volum for true posit reason thi group agre spend energi nonexist god satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	evo homosexu princeton etc bill had clear thi good evolutionari argument homosexu don qualifi articl vwn darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write wainwright eczcaw mip nott wrote delet odd homosexu had evolutionari function delet time man sex woman intend produc children hmm world overpopul you monti python song sperm sacr and you purpos mean limit popul growth your arguement natur context talk evolutionari function basic requir evolut that member speci procreat don purpos that context guess social insect ant bee etc breed queen and passel steril worker huh dai ain true peopl can decid whether not children and will choos sex that anoth arguement lifestyl decis your arguement sinc homosexu can not choos not reproduc akin peopl decid sex not children unnatur each anoth sequitur sex evolutionari function that exist for procreat that recreat incident that homosexu don procreat mean that sex recreat and noth serv evolutionari purpos refer you bonobo speci primat closelei relat human chimpanze that close sex time homosexu heterosexu group find food sex sleep night sex escap fight prdator sex sex serv import social function and reproduct thi speci speci close relat human indic that sex perform social function human even not thi show that such function not imposs sincer rai ingl ingl engin umich edu meek can earth rest star robert heinlein
alt.atheism	vonnegut atheism yesterdai chanc hear kurt vonnegut speak univers hampshir vonnegut succeed isaac asimov honorari head american humanist associ vonnegut atheist and asimov asimov funer vonnegut stood and asimov heaven ignit uproari laughter room peopl speak time funer funniest thing possibl room full humanist vonnegut yesterdai lectur vonnegut come speak your univers highli recommend even you never read novel opinion greatest live humorist greatest live humanist humorist peac dana
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write clarifi muslim mean muslim gener call muslim and not outwardli profess clear contradict essenti teach islam consid muslim thing contrari islam ignor for exampl not suddenli not becom muslim knowingli transgress islam teach and essenti principl leav islam you and bobbi sit and decid exactli islam post zlumber not muslim evil muslin can evil evil suffer temporari athiesm member claim muslim stori straight satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	request for support articl apr sei cmu edu dpw sei cmu edu david wood write you respond articl includ similar answer question pose you charlei challeng agre satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	bill conner articl mlr darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write you explain thi pertain thi posit statement type practic and you name you thi relat and bill you explain pertain thi posit statement type practic satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout articl jvigneau apr ulowel edu jvigneau ulowel edu joe vigneau write bsa taught don toler met thi gui thought gai fari bsa taught antibigot give testimoni experi scout back issu wasn gai principl for put testimoni stan krieger and kind thi discuss doesn belong and intoler accept posit scout notic bsa hijack religi core valu surviv spite leadership and scout and scout haven testimoni thi remind that scout worth fight for cautionari note you realiz that your experi thi camp leader bsa you put risk public word leak bsa gestapo bill mayn
alt.atheism	soc motss princeton ax match fund for boi scout wainwright eczcaw mip nott wrote jim thought that homophob word us act ralli didn beleiv real peopl us agre term definit homophob activ and militantli attack homosexu latent homosexu hostil conceal true orient sinc disapprov condemn homosexu homophob your implic clear necessarili follow that men latent homosexu bisexu crap crap crap crap crap definit type phobe come phobia irrat fear homophob not act meet word appar gener us perhap isn bibl wouldst thou prefer commun thou bilespeak arachnophob irrat fear spider agoraphob irrat fear wide open space you understand english phobia will react will avoid and that not will strike run gaybash occur natur process peopl defin homophobia will run gai peopl violenc isn that you take issu your remark parenthet mine and add noth odd homosexu had evolutionari function limit popul growth sinc evolut occur member gener pass trait subsequ gener homosexu evolutionari deadend your usag term homophob sens you intend men homosexu and evolut speci time man sex woman intend produc children hmm world overpopul you monti python song sperm sacr and you purpos mean limit popul growth your arguement natur context talk evolutionari function basic requir evolut that member speci procreat don purpos that context anoth point that offspr each gener surviv particip parent famili exist sinc homosexu not reproduc cannot constitut famili sinc major humankind part famili homosexu evolutionari abber contrari natur you will that true your arguement homosexu vanish year ago due procreat parent singl parent famili put babi cold co your arguement die your argument homosexu genet determin your second point you prove that you idea context mean talk evolut preserv speci fundament premis process get wors sinc overwhelm major peopl prefer heterosexu relationship homosexu social abber homosexu eschew biolog imper reproduc and social imper form and particip fundament social element famili wait read expect you ten children famili grow dai sex procreat admittedli pleasur pre pill and pre condom dai you had sex chanc produc children dai ain true peopl can decid whether not children and will choos sex that anoth arguement lifestyl decis your arguement sinc homosexu can not choos not reproduc akin peopl decid sex not children unnatur each anoth sequitur sex evolutionari function that exist for procreat that recreat incident that homosexu don procreat mean that sex recreat and noth serv evolutionari purpos sinc homosexu come closet and convinc polici maker that civil right claim that sexual prefer life style orient choic that protect law homosexu mere choic and contrari natur and anti social pervers choic even credibl promin peopl peopl peopl you live life you god fanci date pretti obviou dodg you you you feel oblig respond statement not tell demonstr that argument practic homosexu provid altern lifestly that not homophob that can call pervers context even atheist can understand realiz that thi come danger close establish and that atheist compel object that basi you consist you case thi regard character opposit homosexu homophob ignor compel argument legitim homosexu life style sinc charg intend intimid demogogueri and not fact jim persuas argument for suppress homosexu thi start crap your argument base outdat ideal likewis bibl honest christian condemn ten gener spawn bastard etern damnat crush peni accid not deuteronomi your comment pertain you disguis can mention ideal date your argument reactionari you contribut homosexu exclud particip scout reason us restrict teach logic homosexu deviat social and biolog sinc adult role model for child incumb parent ensur that child isol child harm thi case harm mean primarili social that extend easili you show sex that describ normal and will hat puma basebal cap you man meat anoth man poison thi you pick singl point that you find offens and explain your object that you can discuss thi issu intellig bill
alt.atheism	fluid liquid west wam umd edu brian west write delet similar analog can made glass for you don glass liquid your scienc teacher and flow delet your scienc teacher tell you glass liquid scienc teacher glass supercool fluid not liquid high temperatur definit liquid includ readili take form contain accur don want peopl creationist uunet tektronix sail mikec cranford uunet tektronix sail lab tek mikec princip troll arpa mikec sail lab tek relai net resid skeptic csnet mikec sail lab tek teklab tektronix
alt.atheism	gospel date articl vyfu darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write keith ryan kmr cwru edu wrote wild and fanci claim requir greater evid you state that book your room blue not evid you claim that two head leapard your bed and don mean male lover leotard keith issu truth consequ proposit argu irrelev issu consequ such and such true truth irrelev disagre proposit amount evid and support can miriad factor for each individu quit requir level evid point histori import fussr not comrad state that own pair blue jean evid live unit state time such statement rais eyebrow individu wear busi suit etc degre effect world and strength claim determin amount evid determin level evid relev consequ proposit consequ proposit irrelv explain not accept electro magnet forc attract two charg particl invers proport cube distanc apart rememb consequ law not relev can not us experiment evid disproof consequ law incongru law and state affair incongru thi law and natur law irrelev theoriz truth law that consequ proposit irrelv includ consequ contradict contradict state affiar judg true not alon find truth truth defin insert convers explain truth truth that for even truth never possibl find concept meaningless satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	moral constant biblic rape articl jxd darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write coupl thing your post and thi thread that confus atheist for thing can understood process natur exclus for recours divniti describ explain purpos direct for event requir physic chemistri biologi etc random noth determnin thi post contain fallaci respond abolish divin requir elimin freewil you not shown thi you not even attempt exist omnisci elimin freewil mortal post month ago refut give reason reason satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	gospel date articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write delet cannot evid for cynic thi group accept for second foundat religion claim risen jesu back dai period believ and discount thi group sinc ancient choos dismiss thing metaphys relationship even agre argu length mean don evid cooki charli claim that jesu discredit extraordinari claim that don match evid thi case for that gospel cannot even agre jesu zillion spook stori and even religi context evid resurrect elabor argument made not pass your post filter interpret extraordinari claim claim statement that speaker will not accept evid matter evid strict mean actual evid part noth claim charli invis pink unicorn your standard evid for ipu benedikt
alt.atheism	contradict articl oi clj austin ibm yoder austin ibm stuart yoder write univers you theist cannot understand that insid univers and univers two place put god univers and you subtract abil interact insid univers put insid univers and you impos rule physic god univers thing univers not abil interact insid univers god cannot interact insid univers basi whatsoev you posit knowledg thi corrallari negat contridict not complet model physic rule govern insid univers expect that contradictori event like destroi fabric modern physic hand your notion omnipot omnisci and infinit benevol god not subject physic law you attempt explain thi describ measur measur mean can measur effect realiti cannot interact ergo your god irrelev god measur measur mean can measur effect realiti god cannot measur effect realiti basi whatsoev corrallari negat contradict satan and angel not freewil god tell mozumd snm ultb isc rit edu
alt.atheism	ontolog benediktin metaphys articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write contradictori cannot exist contradictori properti languag correct thi thing defin contradictori languag not exist correct stand will object definit realiti you amend thing describ contradictori languag not exist come plainli fals failur descript failur descript you miss point thing defin contradictori languag not exist exist meant conclus drawn descript wrong possibl find describ and draw conclus direct knowledg describ anoth possibl drop contradictori part that impli that can trust concept present and that not doubt sourc not objectivist rememb thing directli sens includ form model us model contradict model not approv remain question contradictori can sens contradictori import point that manag resolv contradict forc not us refer contradictori part draw conclus will fall garbag garbag trap benedikt
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi refer delet move thi thread articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl phkf inn dsi dsinc perri dsinc jim perri write rushdi understand muslim fact that british citizen not preclud muslim rushdi atheist us local terminolog not put word mouth time write tsv and time fatwa februari born muslim fairli muslim explicitli renounc islam never explicitli renounc islam extrem doubt exist god muslim legal intellectu issu islam put simpli not muslim not accept charg apostaci never adult life affirm belief and not affirm can not apostas islam state that can coercion matter religion muslim respect horrifi idea that belong faith pure virtu birth and that person freeli chose not muslim put death salman rushdi good faith god satan paradis and hell vanish dai fifteenth year quit abruptli lost faith and prove found atheism bought tasteless ham sandwich and partook for time forbidden flesh swine thunderbolt arriv strike that dai thi thought wholli seculat person salman rushdi god trust rushdi affair discredit islam ey khomeini fanat and fring element religion even appar moder muslim particip refus distanc witch hunt rushdi thi true khomenei motiv quit irrelev issu fact matter that rushdi made fals statement fiction line fact and fiction life mohammad function illiter absolut concept natur such thing accept reluctantli mob pakistan not you present fiction dream dement charact cannot wildest stretch imagin consid reflect actual mohammad wors doesn present mahound moham charact wors light secular histori islam lewd misrepresent life that wive that peopl rush defens consid absolut fool for write satan vers don hold back consid apost and blasphem not for write satan vers for peopl accept propagandist version contain that book find singl muslim convinc that read book initi claim shown knowledg book superfici newsweek stori impart and made factual misstat event book you understand reason thi origin concept satan vers penguin paperback rafiq zakariyah call mohammad and quran ey for counter propos suggest that you vike hardcov salman rushdi call satan vers perhap you understand jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	visit jehovah wit articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl twso ileaf mukesh ileaf mukesh prasad write articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl ainn matt ksu ksu edu strat matt ksu ksu edu steve davi write bskendig netcom brian kendig write earth evil satan rule thi guess sinc wit bother impli that satan omnisci you trick into that satan know and us that statement show belief contradictari satan not omnisci hold dominion earth christian theologi note not confus theologi standard theologi creat satan and orthodox christian theologi state that god creat lucif satan angel want be celebr glorifi exist and life and therebi god why and wherefor god motiv for creat angel not big issu christian theologi god creat lucif perfect natur and gave angel free moral will lucif high angel perhap highest great author that great caus begin pride and desir equal greater god forgot place creat exalt god and therebi evil and sin enter creation stori that lucif refus bow man god command lucif devot god yeah noth genesi that snake snake talk had leg time don point contradict stori show error theologi supernatur entiti kick human paradis bit into fruit that gave special power not respond reason and logic brian
alt.atheism	ancient islam ritual articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write discuss pro and con sex marriag evid for opinion moment gener can cite for exampl read that centuri percentag youth and peopl gener suffer depress steadili climb western societi read refer usa similarli can detect trend greater occurr sex marriag thi centuri western societi sexual revolut even that sexual revolut not gradual weaken christian and christian moral teach sex marriag propos that two trend greater level gener depress societi and psycholog problem and greater sexual promiscu link prime cannot provid evid thi thi stage thesi reason and request that peopl ponder fred rice muslim give point view daric yoyo monash edu thi big leap sex depress exampl sex depress promiscu declin depress not and reason depress promiscu depress like come emot problem relationship famili job friend and promiscu us escap sinc marriag civil and religi bond emot bond don problem sex not marriag long you commit and devot expect marri coupl thi opinion brian
alt.atheism	yeah articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write and that revel thing charlei you talk thi intellectu engag revel risk take not ration intellectu mad qualifi intellectu engag peopl that concept metaphys and religi knowledg contradict not objectivist not impress problem conceptu problem thi case bad that explain quantum mechan and rel term ordinari experi can rough understand languag perspect ordinari phenomena inconsist and perspect describ inexact charit exactli scienc mathemat represent natur languag not suppos replac elabor represent mathemat terminolog suppos truth oppos represent god religion ordinari languag admittedli not religion fanci side effect inept represent etern hassl religion and for make experi that will lead result that will agre similar show similar religion analog situat supposedli obtain metaphys problem that descript languag not effect that model present useless and can argu that that reason metaphys flourish make statement that can verifi falsifi show that bogu and case hold reliabl inform can you show you establish that thi word reliabl essenti meaningless context you can show reliabl can determin haven you read post reliabl and can acheiv determin benedikt
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law psilink robert knowl psilink write date sat apr gmt fred rice daric yoyo monash edu ivt cfj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write british blow skyscrap don you you impli that person accus blow wtc and that islam teach blow wtc wtc world trade centr build that blown make comment person accus innoc proven guilti rememb secondli hole accus that read for instanc gui us that van blow build and back and claim deposit back incred stupid perhap salamen uneduc muslim hear nevertheless appar smart put togeth sophist bomb doesn fit togeth salameh not person involv fellow chemic engin work for alli signal had specif studi explos devic school not radic muslim type studi thing thi univers for price freedom read fellow told salameh put togeth phone bomb supposedli sort sophist type put assum complic sophist bomb togeth instruct phone brain expect despit thi attack and threat mosqu and muslim unit state consequ accus read thi happen live and heard mosqu attack mosqu houston texa and can verifi thi great jewish media conspiraci keep know thi heard mosqu attack desert storm ventur quiet local jersei read thi articl australian muslim time newspap weekli australian muslim commun thi true perhap muslim base north america thi post can elabor islam teach teach harm innoc qur explicitli teach harm innoc even time war blow wtc and harm innoc blatant contradict islam teach thi mean absolut noth plenti peopl commit violenc valid religi principl peopl post thing koran misinterpret that explan you us uneduc muslim harm idol and unbeliev thing muslim that muslim that islam teach harm innoc and suppos you word that never happen you consequ allah strike alleg violenc occur not muslim commit violent act and hide vers koran pretti hip that trick and even doubt that will come trial defens that muslim and islam teach not harm innoc peopl kill not innoc set bomb your honor you rememb sir muslim allah power allah not allow thi you insult religion great defens admit that incred stupid violent muslim world and stop hide that fact good deni make reason muslim protect bad can you that don deni thi fact thrust argument that salameh law innoc not found guilti court law guilt not establish wrong for peopl make post base thi assumpt islam teach not harm innoc muslim perhap not realiz that islam teach thi perform such action not teach islam spite and contradict teach islam thi import distinct clarifi muslim mean muslim gener call muslim and not outwardli profess clear contradict essenti teach islam consid muslim thing contrari islam ignor for exampl not suddenli not becom muslim knowingli transgress islam teach and essenti principl leav islam term muslim contrast min mean true believ whether muslim realiti min god and perhap that person you will not find term min us muslim alt atheism not and god whether for exampl true believ not for exampl put show and realiti opposit write know muslim mean outwardli profess follow islam whether practic ignor transgress islam teach muslim not necessarili mean min true believ islam fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	gospel date mango umd edu charlei wingat write david wood write extraordinari claim requir extraordinari evid thi high falutin don you you make meta argument case you wrong invis pink unicorn exist jesu not extradinari claim respond histor accuraci biblic claim exist jesu and that not even mention post you want complain that miracl attribut constitut such claim and won argu that issu wrong that exactli issu back and read context includ post and you mean that you kind respond your question for answer charlei challeng your claim that not varieti dishonest dodg that feel fool person dave wood
alt.atheism	and anoth thing mango umd edu charlei wingat write keith ryan write you will ignor critic your logic incongruenti your stanc you will not answer question valid opinion and fact you state start that not and respons reason continu not argu version posit cannot argu your version your posit includ charlei challeng your claim flat lie last week you claim that you not answer challeng you turn includ text you want your context includ articl not come thi contradict make entri challeng post bloodi thing that you written relat thi thread and will pleas post back posit you forgotten that you leav electron paper trail net thi usual theist approach matter time argument disproven shown applic sequitur crop time time speak sequitur thi and sauc for goos disproof fallaci repeat and such law natur argument post recent not chang subject wouldn finish thread question you begin dave wood
alt.atheism	period post charlei challeng addit thi version challeng addendum summar charlei respons date thi post made period attempt encourag charlei wingat address direct challeng evid speciou claim continu post period answer publicli that won answer stop post alt atheism alt atheism commun tell stop total bore apolog for somewhat juvenil natur thi approach loss figur anoth crack intransig and intellectu dishonesti thi post charlei can notic that you fail provid answer substant question that rais respons your previou post submit that you don answer you cannot answer run afoul your logic and onc challeng you prove wrong make task easi for you present concis statement question that you fail answer hope that you address time for you fail answer reason time period will post thi articl suitabl addit and delet such time that notic post you anoth topic will repeat thi procedur you address outstand challeng you ceas post thi newsgroup apolog advanc you answer question previous and your answer miss notic you can kind post mail such articl will pleas publicli rescind challeng question and remov thi list question claim that atheist fit into neat psycholog pattern that you propos semi retract that claim state that you weren refer atheist ask you name atheist you feel don fit your pattern show that you not refer atheist that you awar you fail question can you name poster not fit into your stereotyp context for question thi not true for thi board and you line assum that you delet text that didn mean impli that experi line whether not you mean make such implic you repeatedli approach issu anoth viewpoint can you name atheist that you come across not fit into pattern that you theoriz you umbrag statement effect that sens and reason and press you impli that altern call revel repeatedli ask you explain revel and can experi and interpret revel sens and reason you fail question can you explain revel and can experi and interpret sens and inher reason context for question revel not reason and revel reason not show that revel exist second revel not perceiv sens exactli perceiv webster revel act reveal commun divin truth such thing can reveal commun sens you can interpret thi revel reason that your brain interpret you sens for human interfac univers sens interpret reason your brain thi simpl truth you anoth mechan interfac mean share you cannot escap fact that entir interfac univers sens and reason period thi indefens simpl truth challeng you show mystic will agre thi assert and common defens redefin sens absorb for instanc mystic experi beg question whether sens you broadest definit sens make thing easier for you show that mystic experi exist rememb you aren allow testimoni mystic sinc you dismiss testimoni unreli you taint bia onc mystic thingi absorb show evid that human can recogn and respond short interpret that person reason capabl challeng you show thing you cannot you give fight reiter you not explain your interpret your experi not for attack point fact specif challeng you explain thi revel stuff that you talk and note for record that you declin challeng sens interpret and thi sens and interpret occur conduit sens and reason abil you answer question that straight heart your claim you can answer your claim speciou you state that claim dispassion analysi made poster unverifi and fantast ask you identifi such claim that made you fail question made claim that unverifi and fantast repeat context for question david wood sensit and intellig wrong post likewis refer unverifi fantast claim repres fairli accur reaction claim dispassion analysi that repeat thi group give your address and pleas send you dictionari fail that can you name claim that made that sens unverifi fantast demand that you retract thi statement you cannot offer evid you follow your usual pattern ignor challeng you simpli asshol you dismiss claim atheist that atheist result reason you state that accept axiom reason that couldn becom atheist ask you explain contradict your respons statement that question incoher opinion not share that ask atheist theist you fail answer question question you retract your claim that poster not becom atheist result reason despit testimoni that effect you don retract that claim you retract subsequ claim that accept axiom reason inevit result atheism context for question quot bunch peopl claim that posit base reason atheist prove second quot not can accept axiom and not end atheist point view you claim that you not answer challeng contain includ text previou post you impli that you wouldn respond put word your mouth clarifi thi contradict question you prefer respond challeng that includ context your post that paraphras your posit order avoid includ text context for question you ordinari rule that don read articl line articl noth includ text screen not rule moral practic not argu version posit cannot argu usual your respons await anticip dave wood for record below compil charlei respons challeng date thi make sens appear utter incoher answer question wood imagin wood not subscrib opinion that gauntlet thrown net requir respons whatsoev point read and respond your articl and not ordinari rule that don read articl line articl noth includ text screen not rule moral practic left don respond utmost list thing avoid argument argument meta argument call start that not and respons reason continu not argu version posit cannot argu
alt.atheism	polit atheist halat pooh bear jim halat write object moral exist that flavor moral approxim onc natur object moral fairli easili defin long you goal mind that purpos thi moral not quit get you mean thi object moral oxymoron definit goal orient issu thi subject natur don you word object goal not subject for instanc goal natur moral propog speci perhap wasn intellig anim that revis thi intellig anim and moral suit bit complic law jungl don that actual subject you and object assum that ideal such system carri complet keith
alt.atheism	request for support request for charlei wingat respond charlei challeng and judg mail quit you clear that wingat intend continu post tangenti unrel articl ingor challeng last two post challeng note perhap dozen post wingat answer singl challeng unmistak that wingat hope that question will and level chang subject that thi common net theist tactic suggest that impress desir for answer manner ignor futur articl wingat that not address challeng answer explictli announc that refus you respond articl includ similar answer question pose you charlei challeng not humili want honest answer you wouldn that honesti devout christian you nevermind that rhetor question dave wood
alt.atheism	gospel date articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write assum you present accur don thi argument lead firm conclus materi john not exactli refer for grant similar matt luke materi almost relationship two john get straight jesu mouth argument john codifi version logia and not origin assum that weak that john origin refer text that logia codifi version place argument alon not firm conclus fit into date for gospel talk date text not ag author usual explan for time order mark matthew and luke not respect ag matthew read text mark and luke that matthew and that mark version usual theori heard matthew and luke independ reli mark and that luke reli matthew wouldn grate inconsist geneolog for thing not necessarili luke trust version knew version matthew improv matthew give motiv for instanc theori that luke matthew base statist analysi text assum that john knew content luke text evid for that not overwhelm admittedli thi part that that you point refer grate yep will anoth dai sourc hope your german good haven info hand late earli and possibl shed doubt order put john rest close gap suppos write and exist copi quit bit origin copi can written and surviv becom probabl not copi chang date john that john discipl not gener accept style and languag togeth theologi us counterargu not impress theologi argument point thi and point earlier cannot make argument peter reason not accept authent letter possibl and evid authenc letter discuss conclus not drawn pet dogma church fall step and gener remov bad even time compar that report similar event centuri almost illiter societi analog report talk particip not bad newslett polit parti report big meet not necessarili wrong bad word not origin mark and argument base mark pretti weak statement divin not that section and case agre that import epistl predat mark accuraci tradit anoth problem question letter not paul and predat mark claim divin jesu benedikt
alt.atheism	american and evolut articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl tinn senat bedfellow mit edu bob thnext mit edu robert singleton write delet will argu that your statement that god exist rest faith that you make posit statement that god exist strong atheism don and don and don not weak atheism onc not god that god not exist maintain posit even read faq that strong atheism requir faith us view you that drive car requir faith that car drive not thi requir faith part car drive drive fact driven requir faith belief that sens give accur represent evid pro con for exist exist god below thi for conclus and faith premis and argument us remain skeptic don conclus that you evid that god correct lack evid for exist evid for exist creationist similar mode argument disprov evolut establish creation you person never neutrino exist pink unicorn analog break and naiv scientif theori that explain appear anim life evolut draw conclus that pink unicorn don exist haven thi conclus foundat observ and theori pink unicorn exist qualit similar entiti that sinc good evid that life earth evolv primit ancestor pink unicorn share common anscestori hors and zebra and such god such correspond imo physic frame work observ draw conclus languag problem regard faith and exist christian maintain that god not exist exist mean space and time god not god kierkegaard onc that god not exist etern thi feel pointless debat call exist god and that not that god sourc and ground you that god not exist accept thi statement mean two thing follow will us phrase exist god usual sens and thi sens that you clarif you mean exist god that word game disagre you profoundli thi haven defin god exist fact haven defin god thi get subject you relev can come back god exist wast time exist us and replac god you impli case your definit and your argument incomplet make fallaci you wrong categori perhap you misunderstand make argument and offer definit fallaci not convinc you and that rest faith and inappropri appli categori logic thi realm tell you that can logic prove god that evid us logic disprov claim fine and btw incomplet argument not fallaci thing not even wrong delet can never prove that god not exist you that you god not exist and that thi opinion base observ will observt you refer observ pro con that valid establish posit belief delet that follow aren observ base assumpt that exist don follow you can make observ thing that didn exist maintain that cannot us observ infer that god not exist such posit assert requir leap and wouldn you level definit that assumpt god meaning not reject that concept your evid for that god meaning level onc you complet misunderstand evid that god meaning level such respons you gave come natur you peopl run privat concept god your throat not thi argu and thing that make posit assert for can principl evid for requir leap requir faith you theist form atheism that can respect found honesti benedikt bob singleton bob thnext mit edu
alt.atheism	second law albert sabin joel hane jjh diag amdahl wrote connor assert that complex paleontolog simpli incorrect lineag structur lost for exampl snake lost leg cave fish lost ey speci almost complet lost male kiwi descend bird function wing joel statement made illustr inescap anthrpomorph qualiti descipt evolutionari process evolut can describ explain term teleolog that point even reason understand evolut biologist for instanc tend personifi natur and can limit languag natur natur bill
alt.atheism	gospel date keith ryan kmr cwru edu wrote wild and fanci claim requir greater evid you state that book your room blue not evid you claim that two head leapard your bed and don mean male lover leotard keith issu truth consequ proposit argu irrelev issu consequ such and such true truth irrelev bill
alt.atheism	gospel date jim perri perri dsinc wrote bibl god that true atheism mistaken pretti obviou socrat god that true your monoth and atheism mistaken even socrat never exist jim you come late discuss part began benedikt question histor acuuraci make point that standard us valid secular histori that us discredit histori virtual noth centuri you that bibl cannot true speak exist god fact your object noth histori anoth statement atheism bill
alt.atheism	not omni charlei wingat mango umd edu wrote enlighten omnipot contradictori definit that can occur univers govern rule natur god cannot break that god allow rule omnipot cannot exist contradict rule natur omnipot god can chang rule you definit exactli defin not omnipot you that rule natur pre exist that not defin natur that you mean hear your thought question bill
alt.atheism	knew prudenti juncol juniata edu wrote arriv home joseph advantag mari had speak word thi couldn mari highli religi follow that decid hei that god impregn will trustworthi and honor soul believ and jesu child born violenc dave can you explain purpos your post can imagin you thougt meant bill
alt.atheism	allah akbar and prais lord maddi hausmann madhau netcom wrote and lord that bill connor return set straight can die happi lexu wipe that rain slick curv rest you had straighten your time even limit you flu maddi you you glad visit won stai long thi time shop bill
alt.atheism	dear theist pixi andi bgsu edu wrote for problem technolog caus your type made thing even wors remind inquisit oper rescu klux klan poss comitatu club david duke salem witch trial crusad gai bash etc virtual each and singl war level technolog had theistic organ cheer carnag chaplain etc and claim that god favor ordeal don forget prai for troop thi tediou bad thing that happen malefactor influenc religion that pretti gener opinion want that atheist not that dishonest stick fact and accomplish that interpret correctli bill
alt.atheism	moral constant biblic rape jim perri perri dsinc wrote xenophobia facto and jure implement legal system widespread bibl not egalitarian specif preach kind stranger and emphas book ruth that foreign can join nation and give rise great hero nation altern american strike strang thi stori that even consid issu jim coupl thing your post and thi thread that confus atheist for thing can understood process natur exclus for recours divniti describ explain purpos direct for event requir physic chemistri biologi etc random noth determnin thi includ human intellig and product noth requir that life evolv that acquir intellig happi accid for atheist event can prefer anoth anoth naturalist sens and thought event can product intellig acquir environ teach train observ and experi and signific individu mind resid mental process and imag produc for electr activ and noth content consequ human mind respons natur forc water run hill can atheist judg basi for critic valu ennumer bibl purpos imput god ground can behavior reliogi condemn that judg valu that motiv action you standard conduct measur natur can serv that purpos law natur can you invok establish your valu sinc event and exclus physic event differ possibl make religi can mean gradat atheist can object behaviour admit that object subject and that doesn that judgement prefac disclaim that noth matter person opinion and carri weight absolut sens that you don god told peopl noth god god command that electr event your nervou system that creat emot state that your mind coupl pre exist thought set form that reaction that your object found due you condit truth content your intellectu landscap illus virtual realiti didn make rule inher naturalist atheism and consist you accept signific human thought even your thi you exclud discuss valu wrong goood evil etc and cannot particip your opinion bibl can weight whatsoev bill
alt.atheism	bill conner you explain thi pertain thi posit statement type practic and you name you thi relat and bill
alt.atheism	islam dress code for women dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write delet peopl religion and that thi not exactli come peopl religion noth exist perspect religion perhap can that tend converg truth point that lot harm meantim and that converg counterfactu religion split and diverg even true religion core layer determin happen practis and quit inhuman you post suppos answer don will repeat religion harm peopl and religion don converg split give disagre and lot disagr toler toler ideolog split give disagre and lead intoler you oppos ideolog don your argument argument religion point weak human natur big delet women soul islam peopl that muslim that women not soul admit never heard such view held muslim era heard christian era hold thi viewpoint not muslim you you not confus christian histori islam histori suppos predomin view turkish caliph refer you for thi new that women spiritu equal men can shown vers qur for exampl qur for muslim men and women for believ men and women for devout men and women for true men and women for men and women patient and constant for men and women humbl for men and women give chariti for men and women fast and deni for men and women guard chastiti and for men and women engag god prais for god prepar forgiv and great reward qur abdullah yusuf ali translat quot quot show that men and women spiritu equal and that women soul men not impli that soul not soul and not that quot high prioriti interpret approach qur intellig think approach qur cannot interpret vers and that women and men spiritu equal that vers impli that women soul make sens for soul forgiven great reward understood life usual answer case part for god prepar forgiv and great reward soul make sens that thing soul can forgiven idea soul for your that quot not high prioriti interpret think approach qur give vers qur equal prioriti that muslim belief qur revel god fact deni truth part qur suffici consid disbeliev islam quit similar you post even quran not encourag slaveri not justifi that iit forbid put end slaveri sequitur approach qur intellig and thought thi fashion that can understand quran messag book finit length cannot explicitli answer question you want put teach can guid you that women spiritu equal men and unambigu impli vers and that sinc women can forgiven and reward soul vers understand qur teach wai can misinterpret ignor thi passag that passag misinterpret qur base ignor thi vers that vers infinit interpret fulli consist limit discuss interpret consist text peopl can ignor thi bit that bit for that show peopl can twist islam for end not deni reflect true teach islam whatsoev fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	slaveri sex allow marriag apr ennew ea asu edu guncer enuxha ea asu edu selim guncer write you not bernard lewi write label zionist such discredit etc you misrepres selim hard evid for statement lack object present quit book orient edward edward christian not muslim pretti object treatment race and slaveri middl east sinc distinguish slaveri islam and practic slaveri countri prior civil war not conceal that vers quran promot liber slave doesn and don can deduc vers that slaveri will eventu abolish islam countri you conveni blame practic slaveri muslim fact fail relev claim lewi zionist wrote bernard lewi zionist polit motiv for give misrepresent and half truth islam read orient edward evid for fact post isn long encyclopaed inform can access that slaveri abolish date year muham that thi tension ottoman empir arab slave trader and govern etc asu librari volum british document slaveri report and document slaveri world can found check incid lewi mention don polit stanc documentari evid haven read lewi articl can comment directli and spoken write gener that polit motiv make bias writer islam anti islam polem understand quit subtl and base tell half truth read orient edward not ask you trust fact urg you not thi book book and check evid for issu rais that slave us for sexual purpos claim that islam prohibit extra marit sex wrote that prophet had concubin wrote incid prophet advis not want concubin pregnant etc contrari notion that sex for procreat word such claim baseless quran and hadith slaveri realiti oppos practic muslim oppos islam slave for sexual purpos necessarili oppos unsucces get you islam not advoc slaveri slaveri exist institut centuri advis slave freed for good deed etc noth cultur thi good thing problem can argu rightfulli that slave discourag think status polit quran reward good slave obei your master and perhap dai you free understand that not commun muslim sinc assum quran god and rule base system impos societi for preserv statu quo slave part thi system subordin women that function societi boil child make part thi system etc understand your point view selim not get you point you repeat answer women made post post thi subject show that islam not anti woman etc you complet ignor post miss repost good titl islam and women repost soc religion islam thi disappear your site email tell and will email you copi thi excel articl imho your understand issu women islam sadli defici slave post slaveri second made repost articl wrote earli last year base complet qur and contain numer qur anic vers and hadith support point view approach you argu histor standpoint and argu directli teach qur and hadith peopl muslim and perform action that automat mean that action part islam even oppos qur and sunnah not give you concret exampl clarifi thi for you qur prohibit drink person muslim and proce drink bottl beer thi mean that islam teach that peopl drink beer not and idiot you point natur that author author quran had idea that socio econom structur advoc experi two paradigm shift year western cultur end feudal era and rise commerc second industri revolut rule chang and statu quo driven muslim countri into miseri surviv heathen world muslim countri fail econom unabl accumul wealth directli due uncomprimis econom rule quran fact rise islam can easili model pyramid effect you not produc wealth home increas your wealth conquer place you judg islam capitalist term capit ideolog base larg assumpt that peopl want maximis wealth thi assumpt opposit islam teach islam bad not capitalist pretti unthink islam not pretend capitalist and not capitalist thi not mean that islam not support free market for gener part capit oppos islam understand thi stop you and left bare open for emperialist devour capit industri poor social servic educ level muslim countri lowest world health statist miser etc can postul numer reason for thi your theori that islam not secularist and capitalist etc etc selim will give you clear histor exampl show 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alt.atheism	nicknam articl apr zeu calpoli edu jmunch hertz ele calpoli edu john munch wrote mathew faq can rememb last name keith lie talli sig ryan kent finn tastic sandvick cindi popsicl toe kandolf jim face sig tim simon clip that theist clippendal umar reason khan rob argu strom dave buckminst fuller maddi never post hausmann hei affection nicknam for you wrongli spell surnam cheer kent sandvik sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write atheism deni exist god thi logic bankrupt proof thi nonexist joke thi favorit fallaci point atheism belief that you can deni that you can prove doesn exist thi easili nail show that infinit number be conceiv not observ exist thi mean that poster object be that haven prove not exist stop god huge number be ident ronald reagan for trivial differ miss finger blond hair and live planet can reason atheist bring thi that christian vest interest unknown be except god fine peopl shoot foot and mock idea god classic atheist fallaci shoot foot radic muslim crusad inquisit common exampl that atheist bring mark religion weak fool can that drivel grand daddi human atroc stalinist movement twenti million peopl kill thi leadership proudli featur atheism big differ stalin didn that stood for moral posit murder and terror etc and opposit religi movement honest killer thi not support stalin attack thi viewpoint that atheism support murder and violenc man tyrant and atheist bad logic russian that help stalin that weren atheist don contradict your point your point assum that atheism relev murder peopl thi common assumpt that atheist can life theist you didn support agnost not funni reason sens funni that exist god unknow thi bit assumpt that atheism arrog and pompou and anoth point you didn faq atheist doesn hold posit view that god doesn exist exist posit belief exampl strong atheism god not exist posit belief weak atheism don god neg belief not that never thought idea god life technic atheist not kind that you call unreason thi set suppos that person huge set idea that will repres capit letter and peopl that idea exist real object not santa person not believ santa idea santa notic that even anoth idea thi mean you lot case christian god atheist strong atheist weak set agnost indetermin peopl afraid undecid anoth featur human natur undecid not sexi trendi glamor word not inspir hate conflict not blasphem not polit fact mean unsophist nietzsch onc that man will nonexist not will darwinist put thi that human prefer indecis not surviv trait evolut drill posit even fals bake timmon iii
alt.atheism	christian moral vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write articl jt new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write atheism base ignor ignor exist god don fall into atheist don pride mistak you base ignor couldn that wrong wrong fall into trap that you mention wrong god free time correct mistak that continu not supposedli proclaim undi love for etern soul speak volum volum that speak fact that leav your choic you for trap you not posit that don god not you can motiv you that earnestli search for god for year and never found agre that presumptu for side give psycholog reason for anoth belief mac bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit
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alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost post thi wonder parodi peopl post read faq laugh for good minut part faq that weren mention two don thi wasn joke not readi hear that brendan
alt.atheism	moral constant biblic rape bill conner bil okcforum osrh edu wrote coupl thing your post and thi thread that confus atheist for thing can understood process natur exclus thi definit not includ atheist faq for invok divin spiritu explan make big differ claim that thing can understood natur process and claim that observ not requir postul divin intervent spiritu for that matter human not omnipot and scienc scienc advantag theologi doesn correct natur judg delight scientif inquiri reveal consist simpl pictur univers scienc longer bunch separ branch particl physic psycholog and aspect life univers safe stern and stoni ey not even conscious for recours divniti describ explain purpos direct for event requir physic chemistri biologi etc random noth determnin determin indetermin philosoph question and scienc cannot whether thing superdeterminist not question not mean individu human be appar free will illus not perspect bill can you for whether you free will not thi includ human intellig and product noth requir that life evolv that acquir intellig happi accid intellig histori earth speci control biospher thi can result numer happi accid genet machineri blindli replic and preserv even that machineri can result principl system that can start replic will surviv don don make recommend read for atheist event can prefer anoth anoth naturalist sens and thought event can perspect event and thing subject perspect natur not valu not perspect valu aris awar subject perspect easi assum that peopl and posit will eventu discov golden rule moral not necessarili gift heaven fact product evolut perhap awar ourselv sens ident help plai role and make respect ident bill you read aristotl ethica nikomakhea for starter can atheist judg basi for critic valu ennumer bibl purpos imput god ground can behavior reliogi condemn that judg valu that motiv action you standard conduct measur natur can serv that purpos law natur can you invok establish your valu lewi tell that thi argument main reason abandon atheism and christian argument sever flaw valu such golden rule can ration basi basic idea want live root brain wire lewi real possibl that natur select favour altruist behaviour and moral human evolv and build and tool kill each logic necess that evolut favour knew us tool not peopl bibl reveal quit nice that moral earli jew not thi simpl set rule hold peopl togeth god god not care peopl nation time thing quit jew rule empir and longer simpli ignor gentil situat requir moral and religion born mutat meme pool sinc event and exclus physic event differ possibl make religi can mean gradat atheist can object behaviour admit that object subject and that doesn that judgement prefac disclaim that noth matter person opinion and carri weight absolut sens you haven bother read philosophi whenev observ subject point view exist and happi even that result physic event and happi observ come absolut object sens that observ subject moral judgment lose mean not for simpli exist point view thi includ god valu person judgment not absolut truth sinc such truth not exist fact that peopl not deliber want hurt manifest fought for exist social be can and exist moral not properti human alon chimp dolphin and speci show great care for each dolphin sometim save human drown good deed that you don god told peopl noth god god command that electr event your nervou system that creat emot state that your mind coupl pre exist thought set form that reaction that your object found due you condit truth content your intellectu landscap illus virtual realiti last statement not logic follow fact reason thought can model realiti and sens can convei reliabl inform solips logic possibl not like you continu mix two view subject point view share and object point view not exist observ thinker person point view not matter whether thi point view result physic event not not ceas subject observ point view valu not exist pain pleasur beauti love such thing inher subject onc god wive submit husband even make leap faith into unknown punish don disagre moral not moral come suprem remov moral mean make zombi machin singl thought god gave moral judg disagre not fault free replac moral cannot point give moral system disagre and mad thi god schizophren thi you exclud discuss valu wrong goood evil etc and cannot particip your opinion bibl can weight whatsoev can opinion god for that matter cannot understand subject opinion thing made matter credibl opinion thing made bill note absolut valu independ includ god god subject viewpoint point view and moral petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write refut noth simpli tell you childish propaganda and noth refut bcci not islam bank thi post noth islam bank tire thi infantil garbag simpli evalu such you flesh bit miss full grandeur content virtu blind atheism you difficulti light you your head your ass suggest make thi not case post time for your lesson debat gregg yeah begin includ text vice new tek uunet psinntp wrldlnk usenet sun apr pdt notic post thi topic soc religion islam and sinc topic bcci not islam bank come left mention bcci bank call bcci adapt koran rule bank thi bibliographi bennett neil bcci adapt koran rule bank time august gui write piec titl that impli case that thi you support posit you intend respect gregg question and even manag includ refer head firmli engag ass your excus thi support noth reason that thi piec anoth anti islam slander job respect for titl for real content can thi articl want true can you bcci not islam bank spend time respond propaganda respond thi sub thread don feel deep make statement effect that propaganda fals discuss issu glad real discuss provid refer etc gregg
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write rule don mix appl orang can you that extermin mongol wors stalin khan conquer peopl unsympathet that atroci stalin kill million peopl love and worship and atheist state can wors that you and david koresh claim christian
alt.atheism	thought bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi find encyclopedia volum hitler adolf had peopl german enamour moorcockpratchettdenislearydelasoulu iainmbanksneworderheathersbatmanpjorourk clive come retract foreskin misconcept jame triniti colleg dublin and appli wire brush enlighten geoffm brownbladerunnersugarcubeselectronicblaylockpowersspikeleekatebushhamcornpizza
alt.atheism	pope jewish west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write pope jewish guess and thought that thing head fanci hat not jewish headpiec don rememb name clear clear mud that headpiec chort crl nmsu edu sourc newswir vatican home genet misfit michael gillow note geneticist reveal unusu data work undercov vatican for past year popehat advanc bone spur reveal gillow groundshak report gillow had secretli studi innermost work vatican sinc return vietnam wheel chair approach scientif commun theori late hat thing that cover vatican didn want cathol commun realiz leader heft kilogram extran bone tissu top skull note gillow report laboratori vatican that experi tissu transplant and bone marrow experi start genet fluke mid scientif engin and bred for bone transplant idea start mid sixti inspir doctor timothi leari transplant deer bone cell into small white rat gillow quick point assassin attempt pope john paul and disappear leari public ey becom time replac pope gillow pope and replac pope lock pad chamber butt head male yak fight for domin herd victor emerg and earn privileg insemin choir boi moorcockpratchettdenislearydelasoulu iainmbanksneworderheathersbatmanpjorourk clive come retract foreskin misconcept jame triniti colleg dublin and appli wire brush enlighten geoffm brownbladerunnersugarcubeselectronicblaylockpowersspikeleekatebushhamcornpizza
alt.atheism	free moral agenc and jeff clark articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write delet you million suffer for adam and pretti sick creat univers gonna respond give small theologi lesson forgiv us theologi major that thi planet involv cosmic struggl great controversi betwe christ and satan borrow book titl god interest entir univers make decis delet univers creat can you tyrann creatur like your definit your god creat satan full knowledg happen includ choic satan can you explain free will and omnisci didn your god that happen even creat world concern tyrant care fine for that idea come possibl abus power your god introduc your descript you that you read faq part preach benedikt
alt.atheism	pope jewish articl apr wam umd edu west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write last night watch rebroadcast jerri springer talk show heard thi jewel thought year racist focu thi show kid and hatr for jewish religion and stuff delet interest and scari jew had kill god and end time that race homeland remain america jeruselem gen anoth kid rest race home and great battl plagu revel happen and jew kill interest thing thi that roomat cathol and had kjv bibl desk immediatli open and began search for quot passag gen rev and john for and couldn find don thi show back and heard kid quot bibl justifi racist claim look that quot jesu hate jew sinc jesu jew curious had piqu such claim jist passag and can recal passag exactli that jesu condemn pharise for corrupt pharise jewish wasn jew that jesu condemn power that nanci connor psycholog undergrad opinion express simon fraser univers burnabi canada
alt.atheism	silli question tianiti werdna cco caltech edu andrew tong write mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write question thi attitud god charact egotist and proud christian tell peopl humbl deal god pretti egotist and proud mean creat you doesn proud such job peopl don proud accomplish that can match god accomplish abil compar god imbecil worm earth quot pascal grumblegrumbl you god and you creat univers wouldn you irk organ cell globul tini planet start think great and awesom you logic fall apart quick perfect insult threaten action lesser creatur offspr shuold power perfect feel proud offend capabl awar relationship aspect particl univers moment time simultan understand action cell globul each tnii planet that kinda odd that god care earth bad exampl amaz fact that care appar and that will make grand sacrific ensur happi power owner univers make great sacrific make great headlin doesn make sens sacrific that couldn back gave give chri you gui fun agoin kei west
alt.atheism	don beleiv you articl apr antioc antioch edu smauldin antioc antioch edu write stop believ you long invent technolog god ahhh back alt autoth you belong brian
alt.atheism	genocid caus theism evid articl qid fct horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write don special theism gener that make hazard stupid anarchi patriot depend religion noth believ god that and entail even promot xenophobia genocid etc emphasi gener you correct sinc you haven restrict observ practic religion lot exampl god mandat genocid canaanit point that you god and you order you elimin entir race you will like make attempt past sure present bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	free moral agenc and jeff clark articl sandvik sandvik kent appl sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write thi reason controversi post modern issu polar evil and good artifici construct and fall apart closer inspect into notion constant struggl evil and good forc sound metaphor that peopl assum closer inspect info not expos idea bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl apr new wesleyan edu ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu scott sauyet write qabe innaff gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu write chimpanze fight war land chimp almost human keith thi last messag schneider and dai final word and find that that final christian leari atheist spokesman clandestin and that had remov keith busi explain fellow captiv isn persecut sinc feed and resist part view troubl make understand make bit fuss tatoo god trust forehead bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	member articl hiew portal videocart dfuller portal videocart dave fuller write start read thi group todai and larg particip daili post like section faq construct logic argument atheist not turn peopl into atheist figur peopl don care view come wrong will admit possibl religi follow dont capabl aboard notic alot post bobbi respond post fall back argument you answer your question religion will bad event explain human name religion not mean that religion will point ideal and that wasn can reason for event argu bother you upset answer blind and not support factual will win time argument don will post direct respons respons post that spout fact that atheist fool evil for not peachi islam leav pro con argument islam fred rice level head and subject happi aboard you you abord dave fuller dfuller portal videocart brian
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl hous helio hous helio usq edu ron hous write marshal csugrad edu kevin marshal write healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write you yeah didn god destroi bud point million ag suffer life answer that satan made claim that god god allow satan chanc prove that god that brought come god allow wish individu superced billion doubt read bibl twice never impress that god and satan work sort cooper arrang read book job that bet brian
alt.atheism	thought sold sign brian book charl manson lord lunat liar
alt.atheism	thought bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write reason wouldn liar follow die for lie wouldn peopl liar peopl gather and gather hear had heal call fool heal peopl di for run risk dy for lie for peopl liar had grifter and charlatan sinc begin civil david copperfield had messiah bet found plenti believ jesu claim faith healer and wasn wit set apart niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn david koresh fool logic peopl thi rubbish nation crazi liar psychopath and megalomaniac histori hitler tojo mussolini khomeini qadaffi stalin papa doc and nixon come mind thi centuri koresh issu sinc wasn liar lunat real thing discret mathemat formal logic flaw your logic and will you read faq thing note fulfil load propheci psalm isaiah and hr alon thi betray and crucifixion don bibl thi moment time write will us you bibl written bibl not mean true and ag that tome lack extern support evid make credibl you quot bibl futur back that quot support evid you will flame mercilessli don peopl understand christian not lot church life and total sacrafic for god sake love die and save hei can god inspir turn live that tuff and peopl don want real christian for strong persever weight lift guitar plai drum take time don rush dai christian your life not church onc week help poor peopl onc box into time unit such work thi time sport social life god box and carri into box that creat for ourselv weight lift guitar plai don you defin world total imagin total sacrafic for god sake involv time commit you correct tendenc box into time unit you explain involov god sport and heheh televis kevin marshal comput scienc depart virginia tech marshal csugrad edu blacksburg virginia
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write wait you that human rare reason doesn that contradict atheism explain logic and reason thi contradict atheism that prove fals bobbi mozumd prove exist allah bobbi post don men women islam countri atheist kill femal children person favorit sami aario can you measur atom you can explod tut sunlight compris atom your stupid mind stupid stupid ero plan outer space disclaim don agre ero
alt.atheism	thought you read faq read faq you wouldn post such drivel lord liar lunat argument fals trilemma even you disprov liar and lunat you haven you not elimin possibl such mistaken misdirect misunderstood you arbitrarili set and possibl read good book rhetor and critic think you lord liar lunat discuss exampl good argument you learn read faq construct logic argument ignor instruct your peril disobei leav you open for righteou flame maddi hausmann madhau netcom centigram commun corp san jose california kid don thi home rememb post profession
alt.atheism	slaveri sex allow marriag thi sound nice help each and smile and fluffi bunni wake peopl not that evid histori that societi succeed had reli goodwil and unselfish peopl isn obviou place iran that even greedi peopl societi attract posit power sound recip for disast histor evid such perfect utopian islam state didn surviv agre peopl peopl and even you start islam revolut and creat thi perfect state take time and intern corrupt will destroi ground rule cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	slaveri sex allow marriag articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice wrote basi appar success islam bank that statement that interest economi cannot surviv todai world bit prematur intest econom system surviv small scale op not islam invent and oper work world such system don stand corrupt larg scale oper noth handl human greed imho not even allah cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	member articl hiew portal videocart dfuller portal videocart dave fuller wrote event explain human name religion not mean that religion will point ideal and that wasn can reason for event argu bother you upset answer blind and not support factual will win time argument don will post direct respons hei glad and construct contributor thi newsgroup agre statement you argu bobbi for eon and not thing spare your mental resourc discuss interest issu cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl qjfnv ogt horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer wrote term hero worship mean you worship jesu super saver hero worship grand scale worship lenin that will make life pleasant for work peopl similar understand that god defin supernatur not superhuman notion lenin borderlin supernatur insight into chang world wasn communist god man gave present kid christma agre thing rel and you can direct map movement and notion that communist russia somewhat typic atheist countri that robertson tilton rest atheist not true unbeliev huh don fanat cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	thought articl bissda saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel wrote want start and that christian make sens you read toni campollo book liar lunat real thing titl write book part effort destroi christian process christian didn understand realiti liar lunat real thing narrow view possibl jesu messag sigh religion make your mind brain filter that not fit into your person scheme that think possibl jesu bound classic lewi notion liar lunat saint bound becom christian cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl qjf horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qimb fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl qif horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qialf fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write forget origin quot gotta us word talk you atheist lack belief god plausibl that atheist dig lenin lennon such extent that consid worship and atheist newspeak question you regard ardent nazi republican simpli germani longer had kaiser that base fals dichotomi option you present and that point you can simpli divid world into atheist and atheist basi god belief you care belief supernatur deiti and noth behaviour belief supernatur your criterion onc you start talk behaviour suscept ibil led bad peopl into bad thing you assum worri and that area you care whether sceptic critic and autonom hand gullibl excit and easili led that tendenc worship tyrant and ideolog that person easili led whether worship belief supernatur hero earthli besid point jon
alt.atheism	thought articl edm apr gocart twisto compaq edm twisto compaq mccreari write thu apr gmt bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel dlb want start and that christian dlb make sens you read toni campollo book liar dlb lunat real thing titl dlb write book part effort destroi christian dlb process christian friendli folk christian central come save you
alt.atheism	islam genocid articl qjipo pen horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qinmd fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write rate even your interpret correct thi not impli that kill relig motiv origin poster claim tricki tricki repli your blanket claim that not religi motiv aren irish cathol south not kill irish protest south precis histori kill relig motiv ignor obviou matter british occup partit and misguid patriot side fals dichotomi you claim kill not religi motiv and that wrong not that each and kill religi motiv spell detail problem fault religi divid histor root thi thing cathol countri partit and popul protest grotesqu kill soldier and civilian supposedli motiv patriot civil right issu and reveng difficult understand insofara insan hard understand religion not invok explain contradict thi paragraph claim that kill not relig motiv grotesqu that mean that church and believ histori can face rewrit you attack claim claim that ira terrorist plant bomb warrington not motiv greater glori god frank put quot your word your post horu mchp sni don that claim you can longer stand your origin claim jon
alt.atheism	don beleiv you articl apr antioc antioch edu smauldin antioc antioch edu write stop believ you long invent technolog god don listen thi gui crank thi busi true god toler rest complet hand isn bad peopl stop believ you relax mortal aren beg you for favor zeu
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write state that that green marbl close box never evid for exist guilti deceit even fact green marbl insid question whether not green marbl insid irrelev you ahead and plai your marbl love love love fit that into sig file keep list bobbi quot includ thi state unproven opinion fact deceit and knowingli deciet falsehood and lie you unproven opinion fact you opinion you not accept flat earther state that earth flat fact don accept thi unproven opinion and round earther evid flat earther can prove that god doesn exist argument us support god exist weak and contradictori and not god come and reason god that absolut can ignor ago read interest book fellow call von daenicken prove wildest thing and last page wrote can you prove isn can not base proof question stuff such myth call circumstanci evid atheism hasn made kill and regard quit agreeabl fellow sami aario can you measur atom you can explod tut sunlight compris atom your stupid mind stupid stupid ero plan outer space disclaim don agre ero
alt.atheism	islam author sic women kmr cwru edu keith ryan kmr cwru edu rush leland stanford edu apr leland stanford edu reader join thi gui for real simpli amaz sadli don loos sleep zlumber fun basic harmless you don work citi don find hard that ol zlumber believ hate and ignor prattl write frighten thought peopl even wors that femin equal superior men laughabl long doesn proce pick rifl and start shoot women preemptiv strike aka canada slaughter that occur year ago men kill women noth islam fundamentalist excus ran vancouv sun thursdai octob john davidson canadian press montreal perhap letter year daughter that shock hope dai you will understand happen your parent wrote patrick prevost love your mother passion that hatr polic found piec paper prevost bodi apart northeast montreal year mechan commit suicid kill wife jocelyn parent coupl had separ for month and woman had apart talk get monei for food violent quarrel broke and prevost attack wife kitchen knife cut throat polic latest women slain husband lover quebec last week children slain result domest battl last year quebec alon women slain husband that such case across canada statist canadian centr for justic rest articl ommit that women stai home and rais child laughabl women tradition hard labor support famili men cultur histori take two adult rais child and that stai home maximu
alt.atheism	femin and islam articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write articl apr eagl wesleyan edu kmagnacca eagl wesleyan edu write that hadith state that silenc mean and that women not speak judg conduct marriag actaulli that fals hadith contradict vers quran that women testifi speak judg hadith declar fals contradict quran hadith weren written revel life prophet and error you can fals hadith true contradict quran relat that isn explicitli spell quran quran wasn written life muham wasn long year long shift vers karl lastli come china hope you touch and you fulfil lifelong ambit your life will drop acid great wall duke pink floyd lie lie even billion peopl
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl apr abo mandtbacka finabo abo mat andtbacka write qie fkt horu mchp sni frank write articl ursa bear halat pooh bear jim halat write peopl not word object mean put word moral assum idiom and cannot defin separ term give object moral moral built object valu and object valu specif and importantli motiv wild guess and freedom object valuabl base thi assumpt that world depriv utterli freedom that act contrari volit almost want complain that assert that freedom not valuabl almost can that bit absurd assert not rain raini dai thi candid for object and condit for object moral that object valu such thi exist frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write articl nrl navi mil khan itd itd nrl navi mil umar khan write borrow book librari khomeini fatwa etc found thi passag legitimaci fatwa common knowledg prescrib islam law that sentenc applic jurisdict islam law appli sentenc pass islam court and execut state machineri due process law even islam countri alon muslim land individu cannot law into hand sentenc pass carri state usual machineri and not individu becom crimin act law into hand and punish offend process defenc offend brought notic court and court shoud decid deal thi law appli equal muslim muslim territori agre fulli statement and precis meant previou statement islam not anarchist and law not enforc despit law applic such clarif ulama islam scholar muslim britain and imam khomeini fatwa made clear that sinc islam law not applic britain hadd compulsori punish cannot appli disagre thi conclus applic islam law muslim wherev conclus not strictli follow forego conclus that fatwa cannot enforc islam law agre that punish cannot appli rushdi even found wow that islam viewpoint khomeini fatwa constitut crimin act perhap even limb and call khomeini crimin thi basi put price head rushdi britain crimin act islam law understood knowledg muslim that khomeini fatwa islam illegitim basi expound such and post umar khan and gregg jaeger and that even punish constitut fatwa islam law understand gregg
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice wrote understand that gener agre ulema islam scholar that islam law appli islam countri not law into hand crimin act matter for state not for individu nevertheless khomeini offer cash prize for peopl law into hand understand islam law thi understand major islam law legal rule school law sunni and jaffari can level muslim muslim and dar islam not apostasi accompani activ persist and open hostil islam fall into thi categori law that histor apostasi rare punish alon death penalti understand that khomeini rule not base law apostasi alon that rushdi apost long wrote offend and preced qur hadith islam histori for indiscriminantli level death penalti for apostasi charg level rushdi that fasad thi rule appli and domain islam state and can carri individu reward not offer khomeini individu iran stuff delet you muddi issu you assum that khomeini fatwa issu due distribut book understand that khomeini fatwa issu respons write and publish book view correct your viewpoint that rushdi sentenc for crime progress incorrect concur that thrust fatwa rememb level author and assist public book charg fasad can encompass number lesser charg rememb that diplomat relat broke britain and iran fatwa iran stress that condemn author and remov book circul two preliminari condit for resolv crisi you correct point that ban book not main thrust fatwa islam charg such fasad level peopl not book rushdi situat iran for month issuanc fatwa rushdi media blitz present lone knight guard sacr valu secular democraci and mock foolish concern peopl crazi hold religi belief sacr fan flame and milk controversi boost imag and push book media muslim demonstr countri kill protest book rushdi appear momentarili concern climb back media hors onc attack muslim and defend sacr right thi point that fatwa fasad issu fatwa level person rushdi action rushdi that feed situat contribut legitim rule book remain circul not independ will will author and publish fatwa person rushdi encompass action crime crime progress level and plai and plai full view media not thi charg shatim appli rushdi and encompass umbrella fasad rule
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law twelv imam consid incap error sin khomeini support thi view twelv iman thi heresi for reason gave happi discuss issu imam you prefer move discuss anoth newsgroup feel philosophi religion group topic deepli embed world view islam and esoter teach prophet heresi not enter into for islam exoter religion that nomin concern metaphys substanc man and natur good introductori book fact introductori book islam gener murtaza mutahhari fundament islam thought god man and univers mizan press translat campbel beauti book follow book you can find decent translat wilaya station master author titl master and mastership small book transcript lectur author introduct beauti psalm islam translat william chittick muhammadi trust great britain excel introduct subject book univers librari imagin stock univers librari will your post you fairli vers sunni thought you seek shi it thought knowledg shi it author that respect due charg heresi level salaam laikum
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl qif horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qialf fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl egl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write stuff delet newsgroup larg thi for deal recognis that happen communist russia bear valid atheism do sundri theist valid theism that zip nada fallaci hominem and holi faq book construct logic argument apart not make lot sens thi wrong atheist creed that taught communist name atheism theistic creed and instruct act for theist madli conflict anoth that anoth issu lack instruct act evil that that sinc mathemat includ instruct act evil atheism not moral system speak instruct act atheism simpli lack belief god plenti theist argu case for atheism didn ussr valid theism genocid that valid argument that theist system genocid can made convincingli argument that atheism genocid thi theist system instruct act and can shown genocid sinc atheist set instruct null set can you show that atheism genocid david chowel davec silicon csci csusb edu score thousand human insect readi moment notic reveal will god subject georg bernard shaw score thousand human insect readi moment notic reveal will god subject georg bernard shaw
alt.atheism	nonexist atheist articl bskendigc jcwx jzn netcom bskendig netcom brian kendig write quot delet peopl idea mean atheist bobbi mozumd clone world thought that explain thing post soc religion islam attach quot bobbi effect that atheist ly evil scum and ask commonli held idea muslim respons ask unknown guess karl lastli come china hope you touch and you fulfil lifelong ambit your life will drop acid great wall duke pink floyd lie lie even billion peopl
alt.atheism	thought articl bissda saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write appear that walla walla colleg will fill role alt atheist that allegheni colleg fill alt fan dan quayl want start and that christian make sens you read toni campollo book liar lunat real thing titl write book part effort destroi christian process christian convert xtianiti thi tendenc excess darken pre xtian past frequent fals embark effort destroi xtianiti suffer deep megalomania defect not cure religi convers arguement sum book whether jesu god not you don listen perspect for gain listen perspect perspect bwahahahahahahahah book that jesu liar crazi modern dai koresh sigh perhap big mistaken claim perhap insight had dai perhap statement attribut jesu not made put into mouth author possibl abound sure examin thi question come decent list altern task not examin question destroi xtianiti religi salesmanship reason wouldn liar follow die for lie german di for nazism russian di name proletarian dictatorship american di make world safe for democraci silli question wouldn peopl liar peopl gather and gather hear had heal call fool heal peopl perform heal god niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi hard draw entir nation you you crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn david koresh fool logic peopl thi sinc wasn liar lunat real thing convinc thi laughabl logic deserv xtian thing note fulfil load propheci psalm isaiah and hr alon thi betray and crucifixion don bibl thi moment time write will us don bother propheci fulfil ey xtian apologist distort mean isaiah and book
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism delet apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write don you can imagin infinit infin mathemat concept creat human explain thing don appli realiti don world infinit wouldn comprehend realiti for programm that requir infinit memori realiti continu and base infiniet small unit unit you don univers continu continuum anoth mathemat concept base infin us explain thing human not infinit call number call endless not pretti good idea infin man made concept and man made concept evolv time ancient greek had understand can call allah infinit power knowledg etc cannot imagin allah cannot imagin infinit precic don even infin appli realiti sami aario can you measur atom you can explod tut sunlight compris atom your stupid mind stupid stupid ero plan outer space disclaim don agre ero
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write you amaz that find difficult grasp peopl justifi death threat rushdi claim born muslim thi empti rhetor amaz your inabl understand not that you find difficult grasp peopl justifi death threat find amaz that your abil abstract question isol you falsiti principl consequ abus you hate physic you closer you imagin despis live soviet regim purport organ societi fondli imagin object conclus marxist dialect don hate physic long clown doesn start control life assumpt that interchang atom individu human be jon
alt.atheism	satan articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write jeff west write you claim that peopl that time translat bibl time coupl gener you ampl proof agre that version step modern translat that peopl time copi text correctli translat present complet issu read paper that qumram text had version text misunderstand jon
alt.atheism	note bobbi apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write insult atheist genocid total unintent atheism can happen good bad includ genocid and you thi you conveni defin theist can wrong and you defin peopl wrong atheist statement circular not mention bigot and such sami aario can you measur atom you can explod tut sunlight compris atom your stupid mind stupid stupid ero plan outer space disclaim don agre ero
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice wrote articl nrl navi mil khan itd itd nrl navi mil umar khan write stuff delet demand for khomeini and ilk publicli come clean and show proof that islam law punish apostaci death that toler similar form covers freedom conscienc school law knowledg support death sentenc for apostasi accompani open persist and aggrav hostil islam agre legal support for punish disbelief qur make clear that belief matter conscienc public privat disavow islam convers anoth faith not punish jurist thi trend and insist that apostasi punish even death histor except curs and insult prophet fall categori shatim borrow book librari khomeini fatwa etc lot stuff delet and analysi khomeini offer reward for rushdi death fact constitut crimin act islam law post rushdi islam law
alt.atheism	slaveri sex allow marriag articl sandvik sandvik kent appl sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write histor evid such perfect utopian islam state didn surviv agre peopl peopl and even you start islam revolut and creat thi perfect state take time and intern corrupt will destroi ground rule noth perfect noth perpetu even perfect isn stai that forev perpetu machin cannot exist thought that law mechan thermodynam state that not atheist naren bala softwar evalu engin home work standard disclaim appli
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl apr new wesleyan edu ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu scott sauyet final word and find that that final your finger cross finger cross doubt martin schult
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl qkq horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write wild guess and freedom object valuabl base thi assumpt that world depriv utterli freedom that act contrari volit almost want complain that assert that freedom not valuabl almost can that bit absurd assert not rain raini dai thi candid for object and condit for object moral that object valu such thi exist person and highli subject opinion that freedom good thing peopl assert that true freedom word thi and that messiah realis that peopl don even agre mean word mean that word repres object word object mean jon
alt.atheism	articl innf senat bedfellow mit edu tcbruno athena mit edu tom bruno write wow leav your termin for month and you rememb depress familiar face count bob and kent don recogn heard graham matthew recent degre and sail for greener pastur bring point post peopl alt atheism sinc damnedest stai top newsgroup you fall you fall not bad rec art startrek us digress delug inquir mind want track infam poster alt atheism end onc leav newsgroup curiou guess cheer tom bruno peopl willl unlimit store unfound respect for peopl newsgroup mail list longer you sympathi tom semi regularli post toughto sinc thi februari read and thread sinc last august school newsread for month and incompet comput servic never bother find feed site wasn accept outgo post don track poster that love and leav internet for you regard adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	thought articl bissda saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write want start and that christian that rest come make sens you read toni campollo book liar lunat real thing titl write book part effort destroi christian process christian thi isn gui lawyer you give info thi gui never mind will plenti respons thi post and will arguement sum book whether jesu god not you don listen perspect for gain listen thi true make true for case book that jesu liar crazi not modern dai koresh reason wouldn liar follow die for lie wouldn peopl liar not die for lie you poverti stricken and alunat sound perfecetli reasoabl whether societ dreg had for follow liar not not necessarili even di for believ thi make complet selfish differ peopl gather and gather hear had heal call fool heal peopl histor proof thi earlier thread name death make for heal gave niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi sieg heil doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn david koresh fool logic peopl thi david koresh curiou sinc wasn liar lunat real thing thi follow your definit lunat and disproof thereof uhhh shaki thing note fulfil load propheci psalm isaiah and hr alon thi betray and crucifixion don bibl thi moment time write will us good idea don peopl understand christian not lot church natur not true christian life and total sacrafic for god sake love die and save hei can god inspir turn live that tuff and peopl don want real christian for strong persever weight lift guitar plai drum take time don rush dai christian your life not church onc week help poor peopl onc box into time unit such work thi time sport social life god box and carri into box that creat for ourselv handl thi don worth sigh adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	thought christian articl apr nuscc nu cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan write sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write articl cva uxa ecn bgu edu gsu uxa ecn bgu edu eric mola wrote christian infecti cult reason flourish peopl hope driven purpos life safeti blank hide wow follow thi christian moral standard and etern happi agre that case primit emot feel base haha you won laugh hell mental make religion attract for person agre make small point xtianiti dogmat religion not attract peopl hope etc attract averag peopl that xtainiti escapist doctrin absolutist attitud great psycholog shelter dai dai frustrat unhappi fear uncertainti unknown etc thi good point averag peopl not christian fear escap quit simpli improv social life involv american cultur kid immigr for exampl sinc overwhelm major religion western world form simpli choic peopl bore and want live not somethong ordinari weak long doesn hurt buddha had attract religion driven fear man worship sacr mountain sacr stone and sacr tree buddha find peac religion good quot and agre make alter scond that includ long not prevent find peac that suppos peac for inflict evangel person feel that sinc religion such pow psycholog effect theist problem that religion enorm harm believ and human holi war inquisit inter religi hatr imped scienc intellectu progress attitud etc etc don can comment thing will live live popular come and rememb enter high school atheist had and friend thi time convert christian immigr taiwan son immigr earlier gross gener christian lot popular peopl sinc notic percept that chagn for perfectli will live and live long set abstract right agreement treat each desir hurt notion for put argument thi usenet never good argument not appli christian even atheist simpli step person take natur almost instinct regard adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw unenlighten buddhism characterist tan chade meng expect cosmic religion for futur singapor transcend person god avoid dogma and theologi cmtan iss nu cover natur spiritu and base religi sens aspir experi thing natur and spiritu meaning uniti einstein
alt.atheism	your post provok into check save file for memor post captur ken arromde feb subject atheist that articl your question articl averag articl dai for last year note current post rate such that kill file depress larg post save earli dai articl notabl loren sunlight llnl gov loren petrich jchrist nazareth israel rel jesu christ nazareth mrc tomobiki cho cac washington edu mark crispin perri apollo jim perri lippard uavax ccit arizona edu jame lippard minski media mit edu marvin minski interest bunch geoff arnold nf architect sun select geoff arnold east sun made thing great lie gui two thousand year ago wine tear garden
alt.atheism	polit atheist kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write that you confus word object and inher and object system simpli observ postul system perfectli judg situat action consist system not wrong you object goal system not inher that you want defin object system postul determin observ don that thi good definit object system you learn english graviti object system can learn and perform experi will result person perform experi graviti inher system you don excess inform observ determin object determin guilt innoc inher system agre that moral not necessarili inher you state that evolutionari basi thi not mean that cannot object theori thi natur moral not object system evidenc your comment lion and mine perhap can object not inher note practic relat mate ritual etc anim like consid immor previou definit natur law revis order sinc class activ surround mate pose gener problem and fact that postul determin outsid sort higher truth sort god not that god for object system that you you seen that you object notion object system perhap you that impli inher necessit sort grand design classifi behavior anim line moral system for anim commit act rule ethic don perhap not intellig immor and perhap you defin moral system code ethic basic defin undesir behavior etc immor behavior unwant unproduct destruct etc depend goal system that immor end keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write natur moral specif thought code ethic that speci develop order surviv wait talk ethic moral distinct import thi countless time anim kingdom and such natur system basi for system huh moral system mimic natur number wai order for human thrive live group your problem wrong highlight word don wrong for human surviv for long time wild difficult human social anim and that success and order for group function effect sort ethic code thi statement not correct isn don you and point that speci conduct serv propog not give you your tautolog show that such exampl moral system goal propog speci goal natur system moral live monagam relationship not moral order ensur propog speci man impregn women note earlier lack mate such abstin homosexu isn destruct system worst neutral for that matter herd hors domin stallion mate di kill domin stallion mate case your natur system moral shoot figur foot mate practic reexamin keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist kmr cwru edu keith ryan write chimp almost human thi mean that chimp moral will chimp system live social group law dictat undesir behavior keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write you explain sudden violent behavior human be your theori state that human detach primit behavior violent and moralist human becom correct understand wrong you thi bifurc point madman kill peopl roof campu you explain your theori explain such situat madmen mad explain output broken comput not keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write show that exampl and provid not counter exampl your suppos inher moral hypothesi you successfulli argu that domest remov alter thi moral that domest will chang behavior larg degre domest anim exhibit behavior not found wild don that can view good repres wild anim kingdom sinc bred for thousand year produc behavior etc keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist mmwang adob michael wang write type o definit you will note read punish inanim object incap show merci you can not that merciless punish cruel you miss stuff paren you read definit transf transfer sens and fig figur thing can cruel sampl text definit includ not thy cruell nail pluck poor ey and puni man centr cruel and frown univers nail can cruel imagin nail your ey pain thi not impli that painless death cruel you suppos show keith
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral sfnntrc wbo lruk andrew cmu edu david sacco dsav andrew cmu edu write ton mail move thi discuss alt religion mac feel that life joke bob dylan you happi dai your life you wouldn human you game show host movi heather lectur lek chur process note professor becom note student pass mind michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral qjahh mr horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl pww spac rice edu pww spacsun rice edu peter walker write articl qie fkt horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer wrote object moral moral built object valu object valu come can measur mediat thair interact real world moralon scalar valuino field scienc real world basi valu not round you such thing object scienc can not object kick head simpl theori accur predict not object set tarot card you conclus don and exist place assum object realiti doesn frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon measur truth beauti good love friendship trust honesti etc thing basi object fact aren limit true can that can exampl instanc reason cannot measur reason that semant mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write good logic bad good scienc bad definit great good bad horribl wors good defin bad come thi setup thi subject peopl agre switch order isn thi defin unknown thing anoth that good that bad and bad that wors good circular mac sun start orbit earth will accept bibl michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral lsran inn exodu eng sun emarsh hern sun eng sun eric marsh write articl hqxj jdg cso uiuc edu li cso uiuc edu li student write hmmmm defin object moral depend you talk mean you can your hair your ear and mean stryper accept that gener principl object moral list two place ten command sai jesu depend whether you trust bibl second depend whether you jesu god and whether you accur copi gong moment and you wrote you defin object moral and you qualifi thi object moral subject justif you error thi you disqualifi plai mac eric huh explain problem base moral that wrong gosh heck lot stuff that that wrong and that come sourc that wrong you base your belief atheism your knowledg and reason couldn that wrong mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit
alt.atheism	islam genocid pick yugoslavia and problem caus commun doesn matter guess religi leader call for end that can religi motiv thi despit fact that christian carv cross dead muslim chest want land want cross carv accident don suspici like tragic situat bosnia combin ethnic and religi motiv religion attribut that separ group each agre that sad saga bosnia terribl exampl case religion not help us weapon human and sympathi bosnian side serb oppressor will us even christian weapon friend cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist death penalti conceiv deterr crime legal shenanigan that ad automat appeal lengthi court battl etc releg that purpos small part question instat death penalti meant and that deter crime rid doubt death penalti suppos deterr crime doesn crime carri death penalti that effict wouldn death penalti punish fine for speed punish murder mind doesn care consequ anoth problem that peopl dont will caught want kill anoth person wouldn care penalti didn caught strictli deterr line tortur dave fuller dfuller portal videocart
alt.atheism	thought christian cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan write person feel that sinc religion such pow psycholog effect theist problem that religion enorm harm believ and human holi war inquisit inter religi hatr imped scienc intellectu progress attitud etc etc don can comment held that attempt chang person attitud lifestyl long make happi and not tax thi for atheist you don atheist knock your door stop you airport hand literatur social event theist that thier form happi work for and make sister born and real thorn side for entir famili for year final clue that couldn that period bought atheist xtian book for birthdai and xma time birthdai card vers problem told mom that send sister atheist piec read materi don you dare mom wasn religi insist that not send societi driven into that religion preach religion contain crock shit final told sister that didn find life attract exactli effort convert sinc sick religi type pamper look for and worst respect atheist end sight dave fuller dfuller portal videocart
alt.atheism	bibl quiz kmr cwru edu keith ryan write you mind mail question pair answer love for time theist come door thi you post answer kei nanci you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu coward for minut dead for rest your life
alt.atheism	bibl thing interest alt athiesm fact that bibl thumper and ilk thi duller newsgroup almost delud mass write silli thing for athiest tear apart that tidbit want write can such document bibl you want religi aren plausabl book bibl written multipl author repeatedli contradict each minut tell you kill your kid talk back and not kill that xtian want follow deiti pick that can consist unlik last invent for peopl jesu son god didn god not put you that didn god not make symbol idol cross don you that you fact bibl that you track jesu illiter didn write honestli hope that peopl bibl understand that religi text and that poorer qualiti boot reason xtianiti escap middl east roman wine poison lead made rome xtian bad dream thi post person person stand streetcorn and tell peopl hell will happi hatr and snap judgement can guid your robot life clayton forest mad scientist
alt.atheism	polit atheist kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write contridict you want good question claim gener trend disprov thi guess you show that not gener trend you claim you prove cold fusion provid exampl show that trend gener and you provid counterexampl surround mate practic etc don that case disprov gener trend natur moral and mate practic reexamin find immor mate relat activ you exclud mate relat activ your natur moral mate practic special case that natur system can object deduc goal speci propog mind not equat two you that object system isn necessarili natur you you not man wrote natur moral system object moral system that anim follow natur system object object system not natur term can not equat natur system subset object sinc homosexu observ anim includ bird and dolphin you claim that anim capac immor don claim that homosexu immor isn harm isn help mate process and you that homosexu observ anim kingdom don you mean bisexu can determin end moral you claim group impli entiti thi standard jargon read textbook form us that goal not inher that postul not determin argu that aris natur goal somewhat remov postul assum posit that goal aren inher can creat theori postul that sun revolv earth that moon made green chees and star portion angel that intrud into dimension realiti you such contradict observ can build mathemat proof postul that length side triangl length second side triangl and degre angl connect can determin length side postul that gener found true don your postul valid guess peopl recept order assum your system you show that your postul work and goal surviv and happi work you don not good goal keith
alt.atheism	member articl hiew portal videocart dfuller portal videocart dave fuller write start read thi group todai and larg particip daili post like section faq construct logic argument atheist not turn peopl into atheist figur peopl don care view come wrong will admit possibl religi follow dont capabl happi aboard dave fuller dfuller portal videocart offici keeper list nicknam that peopl alt atheism didn had such list you your award nicknam buckminst time you post articl sign your nicknam dave buckminst fuller jim humor mean never you copeland god dead and actor plai part sting word fear will find place your heart histori voic reason faith curs will teach freedom past thing can wors noth
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl hkv epv blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write judaism for maddi confirm thi for and reiter that can easili leav religion time simpli make public declar lazi that religion cannot held respons islam countri public renounc islam can quit danger countri not you necessarili practic true islam danger remain cannot blame failur public renounc islam lazi oppos desir stai aliv and you plan pull rushdi declar leav religion concern compar plan rushdi case discuss can tragic that islam countri thi islam countri constitut contain statement that islam law incorpor kuwait can freeli make such statement fear not mention that point that rushdi book that not muslim and sure reader book provid number wit thi stori becom tiresom condit clear you care make your point clear make chronolog and show that had made public statement leav islam prior write tsv make such statement made that clear rejoin islam talk person feel gregg
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bradford newnham bradford leonard newnham write gregg jaeger jaeger buphi edu wrote khomenei jerk and plenti british leader qur basi judgement khomenei heret standard qur end stori you specif exactli khomanei heret and jerk judg koran like for gui noth contrari teach koran told iranian research student that share offic easi and conveni for you denounc feel that your view not clear cut and wide accept you suggest made thi clear will khomeini put price head anoth countri thi make jerk intern outlaw khomeini advoc view that seri twelv islam leader twelv imam free error sin thi make heret qur muhammad chastis for error directli god qur that muhammad greatest exampl proper islam behavior muslim free error usual almost islam viewpoint muslim perhap you thi case widespread agreement matter islam viewpoint issu not islam and thi for larg group peopl name come back koran imprecis word qur not imprecis word true that interpret interpret word entir text qur make mean precis for intellig peopl free power lust come agreement gregg
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bradford newnham bradford leonard newnham write gregg jaeger jaeger buphi edu wrote slightli incongru find union jack fly citi hall belfast not british want big expens problem that major popul want problem that major can open mouth public perhap quit alot incent for british control north channel and irish sea wast dump appal dump harbor belfast understand that quit alot radioact enter water quit problem independ britain and stop accept wast you suggest that british industri isn make profit situat gregg
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bradford newnham bradford leonard newnham write gregg jaeger jaeger buphi edu wrote you explain qur your ey carri excess baggag anoth era qur opinion carri such baggag run modern economi charg interest loan hear even fundamentalist iran compromis thi ideal sort loan and you heard exactli gregg
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl jkj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write hope islam bank bcci rip small depositor muslim commun and jon grow childish propagandist gregg
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl apr bradford newnham bradford leonard newnham write gregg jaeger jaeger buphi edu wrote and western countri isn legal concept not slightest bit pertin topic british author live unit kingdom protect british law forget govern superior entiti religi organ forgiv gun higher law thi degener zumder logic govern superior entiti elect peopl religi leader not perhap not christian islam choic religi leader made peopl for your superior argument peopl trust make law repres higher law that democraci democraci basic element islam learn that notic that call fundamentalist algeria repress secular govern won free and democrat elect gregg
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain subject free moral agenc date apr gmt articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write testement satan rare mention huh doesn sda bibl book job thi suffer world caught inth crossfir and sometim innoc teh guilti hurt that opinion and hope clear thing your omnipot and omnisci god splainin creat satan for shit and giggl bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea didn never mention satan rare excus for lack perfect memori omnipot tammi soori sound cranki apoplog feel hurt
alt.atheism	note bobbi articl apr daffi wisc edu mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough subject note bobbi date wed apr gmt articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write madhausc ckip netcom madhau netcom maddi hausmann write mark you vegetarian diet problem not vitamin balanc protein vitamin that cannot obtain anim product and thi concern vegan eat meat dairi egg and problem supplement for vegan come anim product you ovo lacto vegetarian diet eat dairi and egg thi not issu didn origin post vegetarian diet that close friend devout vegetarian and vitamin supplement think long time sinc read articl onc talk special dietari vegetarian didn quot full number nice thi place can come grain rice understand brand australia and place tablet grain rice you aren enrich type basic rice and soybean almost you hadn heard rice thought contribut issu norm you contribut program thread earlier fred rice daric yoyo monash edu vegan vegetarian taht eat anim product egg milk chees etc year vegan diet you start take supplement found anim acut bodi make bodi us year lacto oveo vegetarian milk product and egg don supplement and post contridict mish mash knowledg glean tammi
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write you that isn for instinct act moral that order for act act moral person immor action disregard that order for act moral immor that impli intellig not instinct that action not you keith
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write you that isn for instinct act moral that thing explain instinct act can moral act and happi listen for exampl instinct not murder that order for act act moral person immor action disregard weaker that possibl that organ not peopl talk can altern intellig be can moral even bahavior be mimic and emphasi you place intellig anim speci kill each arbitarili don you that thi isn act moral anim aren intellig keith
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write don expect lion not kind fact don evid that lion such issu and that don you can assign moral signific instinct behaviour lion that moral behavior like null behavior that doesn work moral immor case that moral remnant evolut moral system base concept practic anim kingdom you basic that you moral undefin term and that moral system don exist can agre definit term can hope discuss perfectli clear that that moral system that can speak for peopl thi doesn anywher your belief irrelev you can share discuss keith
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist sdoe nmsu edu stephen doe write time that death penalti cruel unusu will outlaw present peopl don thi thi fellow speak object natur moral suppos that major decid slaveri longer immor not claim that system object keith
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl bcc ic uci edu bvicker ic uci edu brett vicker write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write you not muslim sort fatwa issu khomeini not relev you can understand your fear persecut and share even you muslim rushdi behavior not complet excus fatwa issu khomeini relev doesn live iran issu khomeini shouldn relev issu honest and learn scholar islam relev muslim contrari islam law muslim requir respect that decid whether rushdi behavior excus suffici vers islam law and capabl reason you talk weak sens excus depend sens excus you mind and care you inexcus think opinion import you don care care that you don care gregg
alt.atheism	free moral agenc and kent articl sandvik sandvik kent appl sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write sandvik newton appl kent sandvik subject free moral agenc and kent date thu apr gmt articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali wrote ezekiel your hart fill pride your beauti you corrupt your wisdom for sake your splendor cast you ground and expos you helpless curiou gaze king for you bibl scholar you knowthat vers refer princ tyre thi prophesi and address human princ vers refer king tyre term for satan tammi rational connect princ tyre satan you give ration bibl cite afraid that thi not case your think model fall apart hous card cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net time ezekiel written israel apostaci and not mistaken tyre make war israel princ tyre human ruler tyre wick man call satan king tyre ezekiel that satan real ruler tyre don interpret neccessarili orthodox christian christian bibl commentari interpret king tyre refer satan haven read ezekiel throughli long time tammi
alt.atheism	free moral agenc and jeff clark articl dfc dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write dbstu benedikt rosenau subject free moral agenc and jeff clark date thu apr gmt articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write delet you million suffer for adam and pretti sick creat univers gonna respond give small theologi lesson forgiv us theologi major that thi planet involv cosmic struggl great controversi betwe christ and satan borrow book titl god interest entir univers make decis delet univers creat can you tyrann creatur like your definit your god creat satan full knowledg happen includ choic satan can you explain free will and omnisci didn your god that happen even creat world concern tyrant care fine for that idea come possibl abus power your god introduc your descript you that you read faq part preach benedikt don feel that preach answer peopl question and talk religion belief come post don intent convert don expect for atheist thi newsgroup grain salt state belev believeit and and that preach soori and soapbox tammi
alt.atheism	pompou ass arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write not that made nazi comparison peopl compar religi peopl nazi germani that start thing knew thing strang and grew bigger thing that motto thing you contradict motto thing that bother mentiopn you huh thing refer germani peopl that similar thing germani name that thing that and that weren wast time repeat sound knew look book avail that pave for intrus motto hasn caus problem year histori doubt caus problem you ignor instanc describ you caus problem shown that thing motto that like don motto initi sort harass harass will occur whether not motto present keith
alt.atheism	pompou ass andrew newel tan psuvm psu edu write you support your claim that peopl will simpli harass matter doubt thi true theist will loss and that reason for god trust motto coin and coin represent govern christian ammunit slander atheist unpatriot ban ammunit not rid gun and heard thi us convers christian fall back thing thi not us wors nation anthem chang god bless america list imagin year set coin label motto god dead such statement coin offend almost christian and tempt rub that motto face christian debunk standard motto sling get bore you peopl you despis statement print item that repres govern endors govern coin motto endors trust god endors acknowledg god thing that peopl proud don motto encourag belief don feel trust god govern put coin print for motto legitim read god god godless trust you approv such motto whether motto intend anti atheist not turn open invit us anti atheist tool and remov tool will solv problem will increas problem keith
alt.atheism	object moral polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write want thi omnisci perform feat term action wrong you omnisci you exactli and purpos mind goal mind you sould method judg whether not thi action accord gener goal don you show exist object moral system exist practic difficult perfectli emul mean you understand concept object system thought you explain don understand you explain object system goal action judg compat goal not simpl problem system current practic that goal differ that goal each societi note that object system not necessarili inher concept innoc depend whether action wrong and thi depend moral system object system can deem innoc not quit easili omnisci person clear recurs definit murder complain don solv specul object moral system question whether you can even time and for worth don you clear murder part you problem you mean harm harm you spend your exist metabolis food for anoth speci moral system consid speci for enslav anim not human ideal perhap wouldn even bother anim point wrong enslav human persoanl moral system second point vegetarian can enslav anim not kill you vegetarian for health reason you vegetarian fail person view relev wrong eat anim your person moral system not perfectli valid kill member speci for food nice anim not made suffer for instanc cow field live life wild happi veal youngster aren treat object moral system don goal thi system inher system natur moral system nope kill speci for food keith
alt.atheism	judg bobbi articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write kmr cwru edu keith ryan subject judg bobbi date thu apr gmt mozumd write tammi heali write liberti quot christian writer name ellen white hope that will you edit your remark thi group futur not set standard not make your opinion your view duti your interpret scriptur criterion for and your heart condemn not come your ideal thought fromth mount bless point point you judg god true judg sun start orbit earth will accept bibl agre total you amen you state and world tammi
alt.atheism	thought articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain subject thought keyword dan bissel date apr gmt articl bissda saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write want start and that christian make sens you read toni campollo book liar lunat real thing titl write book part effort destroi christian process christian thi good fun sinc group had such ripe opportun gut gill and fillet poor bastard popcorn bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea hope you not flame give coutesi you tammi
alt.atheism	judg bobbi articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd subject judg bobbi date wed apr gmt articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write bobbi liberti quot christian writer name ellen white hope that will you edit your remark thi group futur not set standard not make your opinion your view duti your interpret scriptur criterion for and your heart condemn not come your ideal thought fromth mount bless hope quot thi doesn make atheist gag ellen white put tammi point peac bobbi mozumd point that you set your view that eveil thi world caus atheism ridicul and counterproduct dialogu thi newsgroup your post spirit condemn atheist thi newsgroup bacaus don exactli you you convert atheist you fail miser posit constantli defend agaist insult attack you you blind that you didn messga quot tammi
alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write articl apr leland stanford edu rush leland stanford edu voelkerd write worri case innoc man convict horribl warrant death penalti and put law into place make virtual imposs execut real crimin death penalti not serv origin purpos chang don number back thi accordingli you us cuff number innoc peopl sentenc die accept loss for benefit capit punish surpris ratio that low approxim dozen case execut innoc sinc turn centuri that period sentenc peopl death account for case that don truth reason assum that twice that innoc peopl fact execut that rais number death sentenc meter sinc half million for your accept ratio hold doubt that case point accept loss not even that perhap find solut bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek suggest solut realiz hand natur number us and can answer accept loss rate anoth post despis idea support crimin for life econom situat that concern monei spent feed cloth hous and take care peopl demonstr that unfit live societi number place and worthwhil and enrish live american give peopl job give homeless shelter number thing clyde girl butterfli don reason robert heinlein
alt.atheism	thought bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write book that jesu liar crazi modern dai koresh convinc religi fantasi time that messiah rebel leader that organis jew built into godhood for purpos throw yoke roman oppress reason wouldn liar follow die for lie moslem fanat strap bomb back and drive into jewish embassi dy for truth hint nazi soldier wwii dy for truth peopl die for li time wouldn peopl liar peopl hitler liar napoleon mussolini ronald reagan spend million dollar year find techniqu detect ly answer wouldn liar li thing gather and gather hear had heal call fool heal peopl you heal peopl bibl god doesn exist possibl bibl not divin inspir and can us piec evid written unbias observ niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl hitler mussolini lunat genghi khan jim jone thousand exampl histori peopl drawn lunat drawn david koresh fool logic peopl thi sinc wasn liar lunat real thing cannot rule liar lunat not mention possibl not thi triad thing note fulfil load propheci psalm isaiah and hr alon thi betray possibl fulfil propheci awar order fulfil propheci possibl select dite behalf keeper holi bibl for thousand year gener public had access possibl that text written such riddl nostradamu that that happen can twist fit word rave fiction propheci and crucifixion don bibl thi moment time write will us stuff hard christian delet sever recommend you reconsid reason you christian unconvinc unbias observ jeff
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl ajinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write kmr cwru edu keith ryan write chimp almost human thi mean that chimp moral will chimp system live social group law dictat undesir behavior verb warn that back kindergarten such law jon
alt.atheism	thought bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write want start and that christian shouldn involv bit delet book that jesu liar crazi modern dai koresh reason wouldn liar follow die for lie wouldn peopl liar peopl gather and gather hear had heal call fool heal peopl niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn david koresh fool logic peopl thi sinc wasn liar lunat real thing righto dan thi your cornflak book that muhammad liar crazi modern dai mad mahdi reason wouldn liar follow die for lie wouldn peopl liar peopl gather and gather hear son law made sun stand call fool make sun stand niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn mad mahdi fool logic peopl thi sinc wasn liar lunat real thing ron hous usq hous helio usq edu toowoomba australia
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl jkj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write hope islam bank bcci rip small depositor muslim commun and jon grow childish propagandist gregg point that practic thing aren quit wonder utopia you folk claim upset you exactli childish open question bbci exampl islam own and oper bank will bet weren real islam owner and oper and turn long run and quit ruthless oper steal monei small and quit naiv depositor and naiv depositor put life save into bcci nasti interest motiv western bank street that believ islam own and oper bank couldn possibl cheat don con into think that will work time jon
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist articl sninn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write you that isn for instinct act moral that thing explain instinct act can moral act and happi listen for exampl instinct not murder not murder moral signific sinc noth voluntari that order for act act moral person immor action disregard weaker that possibl that organ not peopl talk can altern intellig be can moral even bahavior be mimic you start point mimicri not necessarili action imit parrot pretti polli isn necessarili comment pulchritud polli and emphasi you place intellig anim speci kill each arbitarili don and poster you exampl exactli thi you short memori you that thi isn act moral anim aren intellig possibl that organ not peopl talk can altern post you repli jon
alt.atheism	moraltii polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write act moral for reason moral moral instinct anim that moral instinct anim attempt assum your conclus conclus you conclus correct err that behaviour instinct anim natur moral system disagre definit moral earlier you that consciou act your definit instinct behavior pattern act moral you appli human term human that even not consciou altern thi not prevent behavior moral you don that moral behavior pattern human moral moral action that consist pattern that enforc behavior moral you get thi backward you show that behaviour pattern moral whether moral behavior pattern irrelev sinc can behavior pattern for exampl motion planet that peopl not call moral show your definit can shown and moral can thought larg class princpl defin term thing law physic you silli talk moral planet obei law phyic silli talk anim free will keith
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write thi thread start discuss whether not death penalti constitut cruel punish forbidden constitut didn meant cruel you suprem court and make sens refer constitut quit silent mean word cruel spent quit bit time word constitut pick word mean impli intent look dictionari defin word isn thi suffici discuss death penalti and that discuss result murder result intial discuss object moral thi time remov moral discuss discuss mene word cruel and constitut noth that discuss relat death penalti and constitut not defin each word doesn cruel can dictionari and keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write that you thought theori meant human gener capabl overpow instinct not follow that thi necessarili intellig aren anim gener capabl overpow instinct good question biologist answer anim brain set differ anim can train instinct serv reason contradict keith
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist articl inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write don expect lion not kind fact don evid that lion such issu and that don you can assign moral signific instinct behaviour lion that moral behavior like null behavior that doesn work moral immor case that craziest thing heard you doesn work moral that moral remnant evolut and that peopl discuss moral daili basi kind evolutionari hangov your toe moral system base concept practic anim kingdom thi us phrase base not suffici familiar you mean base and signific for your argument you basic that you moral undefin term and that moral system don exist can agre definit term can hope discuss perfectli clear that that moral system that can speak for peopl thi doesn anywher your belief irrelev you can share discuss can you moral belief you rais topic never consid quit happi invent moral belief thin air jon
alt.atheism	pompou ass articl jiinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write not that made nazi comparison peopl compar religi peopl nazi germani that start thing knew thing strang and grew bigger thing that motto thing you contradict motto thing that bother mentiopn you huh thing refer germani peopl that similar thing germani name that thing that and that weren wast time repeat sound knew look book avail that not true gave you two exampl pevas anti semit german christian hitler arriv system social rank that us imperail germani and austria distinguish jew rest popul terribl help set psycholog gradual disenfranchis jew made easier jon
alt.atheism	thought christian excerpt netnew alt atheism apr thought christian dave fuller portal sick religi type pamper look for and worst respect atheist end sight coupl good atheist even good steadfast agnost high polit offic last time had openli atheist presid don aren rhetor question bout suprem court justic thing that tick ago for new program local station promo cult and prei young ahem hear baptism birth that isn prei young don us ack barf cathol and even confirm shortli thereaft decid load mom insist that continu church felt duti bring believ that presumptu thing heard life suggest talk priest and agre priest amazingli cool basic that didn good forc guess wasn amazingli cool respons you hope for expect human pose didn expect find absurd that religion exist can us peopl face fact that you worm food decad and that isn cosmic purpos human and univers can pretti difficult for peopl readili pre digest solut thi pretti attract you gullibl will suspend your reason abil for piec mind had stuff ram your throat for long you can rememb religion gener nice patch for human weak organ religion nice popul control blech chri chri leger sophomor carnegi mellon comput engin rememb you don you can ignor
alt.atheism	mari fault you occur todai that thi christian thing can blame sole mari marri joseph get knock you joe will find get mari come thi ridicul stori god make pregnant can that ridicul number peopl that never tell truth and even tell poor jesu that hot shit son god tell thi sinc bought mari stori mari turn adultress and liar and mankind greatest folli recent mint two cent chri chri leger sophomor carnegi mellon comput engin rememb you don you can ignor
alt.atheism	rawlin debunk creation articl apr rambo atlanta wpr atlanta bill rawlin wrote talk origin not scienc scienc cannot explain origin for person exclud scienc issu origin that higher truth scienc thi fals premis hear god enjoi scienc you don understand observ god creation macroevolut mixtur percent scienc and percent religion guarante percent error bill herebi award you golden shovel award for biggist pile bullshit whil afraid not bit religion macroevolut and you made grand statement that scienc can not explain origin larg extent bill rawlin wpr atlanta peter walker you knowledg dept space physic you thing that you and astronomi you not thing admit you not rice univers thi knowledg houston ung tzu
alt.atheism	thought bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write want start and that christian thi alt atheism hope you arent convert make sens disagre book that jesu liar crazi modern dai koresh you shouldn give book weight don that statement correct like that jesu fame attribut death had strong motiv thing note fulfil load propheci psalm isaiah and hr alon propheci and signific don peopl understand christian understand not lot church life and total sacrafic for god sake sell your comput and donat you life your religion don wast time keith
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl qkq horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write wild guess and freedom object valuabl base thi assumpt that world depriv utterli freedom that act contrari volit almost want complain that assert that freedom not valuabl almost can that bit absurd assert not rain raini dai thi candid for object and condit for object moral that object valu such thi exist you shown that vast major not agre thi noth subject major event challeng your assert societi heck citizen will trade freedom for secur promis that made can broken john law man honor word
alt.atheism	islam author women snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write articl apr wam umd edu west wam umd edu write and belief horror crusad emascul and intern nativ american kill tribe south america inquisit counter reform and war that salem witch trial european witch hunt holi war middl east colon destruct africa war christian and islam post crusad genocid biblic canaanit and philistin aryian invas india attempt genocid jew nazi germani current missionari assault tribe africa horror you mention due lack peopl religion lack peopl religion includ fanat peopl that don you that you you shove throat that religion horror cover fals save peac bobbi mozumd thought anoth bibl defin not lack religion book esther read dai for reason describ origin pur jewish celbrat joi and peac long and short stori that peopl kill peopl trip peaceful solut ly you couldn swing sacr cow slammin into nice peac solut joshua and jawbon ass spring mind agre bobbi thi religion us kill larg number peopl not us form manner that origin intend for that doesn reduc number death directli caus religion minor observ fact that almost noth pure univers act honestli attempt find true mean religi teach time inspir hatr and led war peopl led religi leader involv stomach contentsthan absolut truth and driven kill leader point that thing involv religion that lead war whether thing part religion unpleas side effect bobbi result peopl switch religion and atheism spontan result religi group long involv major bloodiest part man histori atheist hand preen preen typic not ideolog social cast driven organ and spread belief overus nazism and stalin show true thi two group clear and specif ideolog religi persecut mean cannot obviou that group found for reason us religi persecut not belief system made powerful hard basic bobbi exampl war that not specif fought religion that not choic kei west flame heat bottom silver butter dish ciao chri blask
alt.atheism	object moral polit atheist articl utinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write want thi omnisci perform feat term action wrong you omnisci you exactli and purpos mind goal mind you sould method judg whether not thi action accord gener goal you contradict pretti massiv and don you even notic anoth part thi thread you tell that goal natur moral anim surviv suppos that your omnisci told you that long term surviv human requir extermin speci terrestri alien that make moral jon
alt.atheism	pompou ass articl pinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider andrew newel tan psuvm psu edu write fall back thing thi not us wors nation anthem chang god bless america list wors not defin violat rule govt supposedli follow chang not person concern anthem sinc don come across daili unavoid routin christian and tempt rub that motto face christian debunk standard motto sling get bore you peopl you despis don despis peopl opinion meant chat refus listen idea becom exercis for amus for motto legitim read god god godless trust you approv such motto not rid current chang such that
alt.atheism	moraltii polit atheist articl ekinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write act moral for reason moral moral instinct anim that moral instinct anim attempt assum your conclus conclus you conclus correct err that behaviour instinct anim natur moral system disagre definit moral earlier you that consciou act your definit instinct behavior pattern act moral you appli human term human pardon appli human term human confus gui that anim behaviour instinct not moral sugnific refus appli human term anim turn into appli human term that even not consciou altern thi not prevent behavior moral you thi you convinc you don that moral behavior pattern human moral moral action that consist pattern that enforc behavior moral you get thi backward you show that behaviour pattern moral whether moral behavior pattern irrelev sinc can behavior pattern for exampl motion planet that peopl not call moral show your definit can shown offer time accept your definit you ascrib moral signific orbit motion planet and moral can thought larg class princpl defin term thing law physic you silli talk moral planet obei law phyic silli talk anim free will law silli and silli livesei find intuit silli schneider find intuit silli that devast argument isn jon
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl bcc ic uci edu bvicker ic uci edu brett vicker write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write you not muslim sort fatwa issu khomeini not relev you can understand your fear persecut and share even you muslim rushdi behavior not complet excus consid call islam relat dialogu total wast time can restrain thi instanc gregg thi come sens and accept know wisdom and power quran and allah not that allah drop congratul wise choic allah roll bone and allah get crisco bend and invit spin block wow realiz that allah for commit readi for man program gotta call you think renounc islam btw gregg allah think you jim
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl bafa dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write fortun religion replac system that human right higher secular law crimin life victim life islam place right societi and member right individu thi call true human right you support claim preced islam law case you law religion muslim live muslim land bound law land live not disregard islam law remain part life law land conflict religion such extent that prevent allow practis religion leav land islam law precend secular law instruct follow law land that live islam state rule khaliph religion islam allow rule religi law provid don affect genral popul and don come into direct conflict state law dhimmi muslim popul exempt islam law religion such fight jihad give zakat alm give etc benefit two act such militari protect and poor will receiv zakat not rushdi and reliabl inform hadn left islam islam law burden proof benedikt fatwa didn rushdi affirm faith islam didn public convers islam bind islam law publicli renounc belief islam burden ma inc masud ahm khan ma cadenc opinion
alt.atheism	slaveri sex allow marriag articl apr bradford newnham bradford leonard newnham write thi sound nice help each and smile and fluffi bunni wake peopl not that evid histori that societi succeed had reli goodwil and unselfish peopl isn obviou place iran that even greedi peopl societi attract posit power sound recip for disast leonard mail newnham bradford leonard give you exampl thi father recent bought busi busi price pound and father approach peopl commun for rais pound interest free loan friend and rel and muslim knew had cash and rest busi loan pai muslim lender help loan clear bank debt and save intrest thi exampl muslim commun help anoth common ident muslim turn father help peopl bui hous minimis amount intrest pai and case bui hous intrest free fortun commun fact leonard work fluffi bunni sight ithat beauti islam ma inc masud ahm khan ma cadenc opinion
alt.atheism	pompou ass andrew newel tan psuvm psu edu write fall back thing thi not us wors wors not defin violat rule govt supposedli follow for motto legitim read god god godless trust you approv such motto not rid current chang such that wrong thi motto you wouldn approv even that begin that you motto gener you plurbi unum keith
alt.atheism	pompou ass livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write thing refer germani peopl that similar thing germani name that not true gave you two exampl pevas anti semit german christian hitler arriv system social rank that us imperail germani and austria distinguish jew rest popul don thing order wors motto you that motto thing that will lead wors thing keith
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write explain instinct act can moral act and happi listen for exampl instinct not murder not murder moral signific sinc noth voluntari you that moral act signific voluntari you thi and human abil disregard instinct intellig be can moral even bahavior be mimic you start point mimicri not necessarili action imit parrot pretti polli isn necessarili comment pulchritud polli you attach thing term moral thi good that anim speci don kill each you thi you that anim machin and that noth wrong anim speci kill each arbitarili don and poster you exampl exactli thi you short memori weren arbitrari kill slai relat sort mate ritual whatnot you that thi isn act moral anim aren intellig possibl that organ not peopl talk can altern post you repli don understand your distinct you mean can small child moral gorilla dolphin platypu line drawn awar you call mechan prevent anim speci arbitrarili kill each don you find fact that don signific keith
alt.atheism	object moral polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write anoth part thi thread you tell that goal natur moral anim surviv that human somewhat thi perhap goal actual suppos that your omnisci told you that long term surviv human requir extermin speci terrestri alien you let omnisci give inform thi not part origin premis that make moral type moral you talk natur sens not immor harm anoth speci long doesn advers affect your guess keith
alt.atheism	member jcopelan nyx edu and write offici keeper list nicknam that peopl alt atheism didn had such list you your award nicknam buckminst time you post articl sign your nicknam dave buckminst fuller jim humor mean never you copeland list agre nicknam law laid gipu almost year ago you that written iron tablet that melt onc and had reinscrib sinc prophet gipu decre that you post list nicknam for frequent poster nanci
alt.atheism	polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write chimp system live social group law dictat undesir behavior such law quotat mark enclos law not such rule even instinct unwritten etc sure sort random chanc lead chimp societi into chao keith
alt.atheism	pompou ass articl qlef inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write thing refer germani peopl that similar thing germani name that not true gave you two exampl pevas anti semit german christian hitler arriv system social rank that us imperail germani and austria distinguish jew rest popul don thing order wors motto you that motto thing that will lead wors thing you don thing twenti twenti hindsight you led jon
alt.atheism	object moral polit atheist articl qlf ginn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write anoth part thi thread you tell that goal natur moral anim surviv that human somewhat thi perhap goal actual human somewhat exactli thread you tell that natur moral anim surviv and thi thread you claim that omnisci can and wrong thi omnisci us for criterion long term surviv human speci omnisci map into assign and wrong action suppos that your omnisci told you that long term surviv human requir extermin speci terrestri alien you let omnisci give inform thi not part origin premis your origin premis habit chang time perhap you review for and differ omnisci assign and wrong action and tell result that make moral type moral you talk natur sens not immor harm anoth speci long doesn advers affect your guess talk moral introduc you implement thi omnisci that can assign and wrong action you type moral that jon
alt.atheism	slaveri sex allow marriag articl apr cadenc ma cadenc masud khan write leonard give you exampl thi father recent bought busi busi price pound and father approach peopl commun for rais pound interest free loan friend and rel and muslim knew had cash and rest busi loan pai muslim lender help loan clear bank debt and save intrest thi exampl muslim commun help anoth common ident muslim turn father help peopl bui hous minimis amount intrest pai and case bui hous intrest free fortun commun wrong thi bank start place sooner your father and pal will lend monei eventu broke and will realis that havn manag risk will that quantifi risk and persuad borrow not greater loan can carri and sinc don want worri calcul and handl monei will specialis that reinvent interest good muslim call fact leonard work fluffi bunni sight ithat beauti islam riiiight that john major open govern depart coupl month ago promot minor busi can lend anoth cup sugar jon
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist articl qlettinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write explain instinct act can moral act and happi listen for exampl instinct not murder not murder moral signific sinc noth voluntari you that moral act signific voluntari you thi you forc moral respons for and human abil disregard instinct make your mind instinct not murder not intellig be can moral even bahavior be mimic you start point mimicri not necessarili action imit parrot pretti polli isn necessarili comment pulchritud polli you attach thing term moral thi good that anim speci don kill each you thi not even correct anim speci kill anoth you that anim machin and that noth wrong sigh time round thi loop that instinct bahaviour moral signific quit prepar that higher anim such primat begin moral sens sinc exhibit awar anim speci kill each arbitarili don and poster you exampl exactli thi you short memori weren arbitrari kill slai relat sort mate ritual whatnot you that kill anim moral signific and not thi your natur moral you that thi isn act moral anim aren intellig possibl that organ not peopl talk can altern post you repli don understand your distinct you mean can small child moral gorilla dolphin platypu line drawn awar you blind you that thi sentenc mean possibl that organ not peopl talk can altern that impli you call mechan prevent anim speci arbitrarili kill each don you find fact that don signific find fact that signific jon
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl jxru new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write you base your belief atheism your knowledg and reason couldn that wrong atheism base ignor ignor exist god don fall into atheist don pride mistak bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl jkj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write hope islam bank bcci rip small depositor muslim commun and grow childish propagandist gosh gregg pretti good read line you preciou work thi refut you flesh bit miss full grandeur content virtu blind atheism bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	moral polit atheist articl inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write that moral behavior like null behavior smell sig materi bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist articl mdinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write discuss relat death penalti and constitut not defin each word doesn cruel can dictionari and dictionari gain hand knowledg suffer your post bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	pompou ass articl jiinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write thing refer germani peopl that similar thing germani name that thing that and that weren wast time repeat sound knew look book avail ann frank exhibit make your small world afternoon bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	thought christian articl ofnwyg voa andrew cmu edu andrew cmu edu patrick leger write hear baptism birth that isn prei young don that prai young prei young come bright ei altar boi find priest wear that chasibl bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl qlfd inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write chimp system live social group law dictat undesir behavior such law quotat mark enclos law not your high and exactli quotat mark enclos law not case you didn notic function that ironicis such rule even instinct unwritten etc sure sort random chanc lead chimp societi into chao perhap chimp that fail evolv cooper behaviour di and left that evolv such behaviour chanc you proclaim natur moral time organ evolv cooper behaviour natur moral bee danc jon
alt.atheism	object moral polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write human somewhat exactli thread you tell that natur moral anim surviv and thi thread you claim that omnisci can and wrong thi omnisci us for criterion long term surviv human speci that question isn goal not that obviou can set goal happi and liberti and golden rule etc goal aren inher defin object system omnisci map into assign and wrong action not difficult you goal mind and absolut knoweldg intent etc you let omnisci give inform thi not part origin premis your origin premis habit chang time perhap you review for and differ omnisci assign and wrong action and tell result omnisci fine long inform not isn thi resolut free will problem interact omnisci situat type moral you talk natur sens not immor harm anoth speci long doesn advers affect your guess talk moral introduc you implement thi omnisci that can assign and wrong action you type moral that speak object system gener didn mention specif goal determin moral action keith
alt.atheism	islam caus believ genocid caus theism articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write that can happen atheism beleiv knowledg religion good can happen thi tiresom statement come you definit not assert islam good belief islam good believ islam can produc good islam good blah blah blah that circular get and equal meaningless that produc good good that produc noth unappli definit and you applic that true you true that silli convers you handedli that can happen atheism offshoot and becom true don and doesn religion aquaint islam teach exclus and cast and suggest harsh penalti for behavior that logic call for punish limit speech and sex for exampl thi not good pain and suffer justif for wave hand inaccess god you toss word knowledg bit carelessli for knowledg believ contradict term infer that you mean believ term faith and you knowledg faith noth jim halat
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write precis reject god and leav islam perfectli free muslim and doubt and question exist god long not reject god that rushdi made atheism clear front suffici number proper wit question regard legal issu statu time crime commit that problem organ religi not idea that simpl speech such thi basi for crime jim halat
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl ursa bear halat pooh bear jim halat write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write precis reject god and leav islam perfectli free muslim and doubt and question exist god long not reject god that rushdi made atheism clear front suffici number proper wit question regard legal issu statu time crime commit add that imposs reject god you choos punish talk jim halat
alt.atheism	silli question tianiti articl apr daffi wisc edu mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write insult your homest come wisconsin backward never understand that peopl held such bigot and backward view never wisconsin neighbor minnesota child middl atlant found that state provenc that stood thi youngster mind california texa and florida name obviou minnesota and wisconsin stuck sole basi polit translat extrem liber and progress state and recent trip minnestoa last summer serv support that state reput guess that wisconsin that impress peopl minnesota left neighbor question head wisconsin whether not effect relationship chees and serial killer jim halat
alt.atheism	nonexist atheist date apr edt kmagnacca eagl wesleyan edu articl bskendigc jcwx jzn netcom bskendig netcom brian kendig write quot delet peopl idea mean atheist bobbi mozumd clone world thought that explain thing post soc religion islam attach quot bobbi effect that atheist ly evil scum and ask commonli held idea muslim respons ask unknown guess you soc cultur group middl east south asia area open islam channel defin atheist polytheist cuz world creat that each particl god creat god soc cultur african nice for contrast viewpoint benevol religion sudan mention
alt.atheism	keith relativist articl pigidinnsot gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write not you thrown into cage tiger and maul you blame tiger aha admit moral relativist keith you start wafffl for human maul thrown into cage speak you start post tome decent evid retract your absolut moral blurb week ago keith desert brat john mcvei elc eltnc eng whyalla uni australia level unisa edu darwin for repli mail whjjm whyalla unisa edu disclaim unisa hate opinion doesn make rainbow beauti that god name smack understand refract mechan that chanc for produc jim perri perri dsinc alic chain
alt.atheism	thought articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write hope you not flame give coutesi you tammi person balanc reason argument tammi happi discuss make astound claim not back evid expect substanti origin author had that opinion and not support peopl simpli not claim thing and logic flaw argument for christian effort convinc atheist and messag for will not thing read you told that pink fluffi eleph danc sugar plum fairi dark side jupit demand evid adda adda wainwright dim atal llanw eczcaw mip nott mae sig werth
alt.atheism	object valu scientif accuraci year can that christian moral articl jzv dc dc tommi kelli wrote articl qjahh mr horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write scienc real world basi valu not round you you valu mean us and you scienc that you equat real world scienc recognit pattern percept univers and make qualit and quantit predict percept scienc process model real world base commonli agre interpret observ percept noth valu can valu not experi not and valu can refer mean for exampl comput scienc true and fals scienc base commonli agre valu interpret observ scienc can result reinterpret valu object valu set valu propos believ applic valu underlai scienc not object sinc never fulli agre and chang time valu newtonian physic quantum mechan steve lang slang sling slink slick slack shack shank thick
alt.atheism	victim good fight articl tekig pen tek naren tekig pen tek naren bala write list kill name religion iran iraq war civil war sudan riot india pakistan massacar bangladesh inquist america million crusad massacr jew wwii million massacr inferior race wwii million communist purg million social religion cathol protest quit imagin recent go bombai iodia area diseas introduc brazilian oher tribe million naren desert brat john mcvei elc eltnc eng whyalla uni australia level unisa edu darwin for repli mail whjjm whyalla unisa edu disclaim unisa hate opinion doesn make rainbow beauti that god name smack understand refract mechan that chanc for produc jim perri perri dsinc alic chain
alt.atheism	keith schneider stealth poster articl innpit gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write you threaten motto peopl that us time somon write and describ norm infact inforc that norm program not for motto danger tell world that true american god fear and put not fear god doesn make danger good job exist your currenc keith desert brat john mcvei elc eltnc eng whyalla uni australia level unisa edu darwin for repli mail whjjm whyalla unisa edu disclaim unisa hate opinion doesn make rainbow beauti that god name smack understand refract mechan that chanc for produc jim perri perri dsinc alic chain
alt.atheism	mari fault andrew cmu edu patrick leger write you occur todai that thi christian thing can blame sole mari marri joseph get knock you joe will find get mari come thi ridicul stori god make pregnant nice attempt chri verrri close you miss conspiraci step joseph knew knock couldn that mari prego that wouldn for popular local circl happen that feel guilti feel embarrass and decid improv imag downfal for clever come gain respect for coupl joseph and mari receiv prais paid jesu dave buckminst fuller that keeper nicknam
alt.atheism	origin bibl adda wainwright write state that thousand bibl discov point time syllabl perfect thi meant that copi time time quot acquaint approxim year death jesu thi complet nonsens codif bibl wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi apolog for long delai get respons thi post work reduc hour past coupl week had son born dai umar articl post btw respond coupl dai turn that coincident new softwar rearrang caus post thi site silent disappear into world thi revis that origin respons articl nrl navi mil khan itd itd nrl navi mil umar khan write articl finnm dsi dsinc perri dsinc jim perri write function illiter absolut concept natur such thing thi respons claim that rushdi made fals statement life moham disclaim fiction line fact and fiction stand thi distinct fiction and fals statement not for write satan vers for peopl accept propagandist version contain that book find singl muslim convinc that read book initi claim shown knowledg book superfici newsweek stori impart and made factual misstat event book you thing thi you accus peopl make hominem argument repeat previou post read tsv cover cover had not that claim sweep you made factual misstat event book rais past islam clearer view thread root rushdi islam law thread statement not that you had not read book that you had not convinc that you inter alia had you want defend your posit produc evid and respond evid post you not statement not directli aim you broadli number muslim poster repeat propaganda book indic that haven read and narrowli gregg jaeger subsequ admit that hadn fact read book vindic skeptic that case thing your case statement you made book clearer view post challeng not interpret statement fact for instanc rushdi depict women respect famili islam whore and your claim had not thi that you read cover cover will resolv thi disagr critic interpret you support your end respond critic doubt abil muslim thi book highlight find passag person offens you upheld view that tsv intend attack islam and muslim thi view defend mere assert you want hard amic and ration and club defend honest opinion that thi book not constru calcul insult attack islam and parallel opinion that critic book baseless propaganda support statement and critic interpretationa context quot book and rushdi essai correspond you jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost chri faehl write atheist not mock concept god shock that theist fallen such low level that god you accus atheist part conspiraci evid rule condescend popul larg theist will not win peopl your faith anytim ruin your credibl fallaci atheism faith hear faq beckon onc wonder rule delet you correct you didn conspiraci correct hard atheism faith rule don mix appl orang can you that extermin mongol wors stalin khan conquer peopl unsympathet that atroci stalin kill million peopl love and worship and atheist state can wors that will not explain thi you stalin noth name atheism wheth not atheist irrelev grip man stalin exampl brought not indict atheism anoth exampl peopl will kill name that fit for occas rule you reli evid state wait oppos reli bunch black ink crumbl paper atheism prove noth you burden dogmat religi bullshit provid evid you refer and long you wait hard atheism noth prove justifi that god not exist faq etc guess justif compel aren peopl flock hard atheism not and won for will discourag peopl hard atheism point sourc reliabl statement hard atheism second make you defend religion recogn hard atheism for faith and refer reader post evid that poster state that reli not theist can safe that definit theist not arrog sinc boast god god principl hard theist necessarili arrog such and such absolut unalter true dogma true not prepar issu blanket statement indict theist arrog you wont atheist bzzt virtu your innoc pronoun you issu blanket statement will apolog qualifi origin statement hard atheist place atheist you call john baptist arrog boast greater that christian todai that arrog not worthi misinform your sophist put theist your misinform shine bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict genocid caus atheism dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write and god almighti creat night and dai and sun and earth celeti bodi swim each round holi quran hmm thi agre ptolem system earth centr planet orbit round copernicu and gallileo wrong you haven read carefulli you you will that doesn circl not move circl oop word not word qur evid that round gener sens wishi washi statement not scientif note that celesti bodi vers interpol bracket translat incorrect imho interpret mauric bucail translat studi arab for research into qur and scienc thi vers god creat night dai sun and moon each travel orbit motion qur posit aspect thi vers note mauric bucail that geocentr commonli accept notion time and for long time notion geocentr thi vers anywher qur fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict genocid caus atheism cindi apr solan solan unit cindi solan solan unit cynthia kandolf write quot delet interest save bit bandwidth will copi koran quot and god almighti creat night and dai and sun and earth celeti bodi swim each round holi quran point thi quot make claim orbit idea that orbit had held true for year koran written fact that orbit surpris insight concern word round two interpret thi word mean circl thi wrong believ true time koran written word not describ neighborhood univers exist thought time thi implic hope obviou mean round shape includ elips geometr form describ orbit planet thi not great insight shape you natur even approach squar rectangl human creat shape natur round degre even flat earther don claim earth rectangl children draw imaginari anim seldom give rectangular bodi instinct recogn that natur produc round shape assumpt that orbit planet round take divin inspir good rememb that translat extent interpret you point below back origin arab vers relev natur prefer us mauric bucail translat book bibl qur and scienc for gener translat liter mauric bucail translat portion vers you address each travel orbit motion note that celesti bodi translat quot you translat interpol not exist origin arab includ bracket perhap can read origin arab can elimin interpret rate exactli impress you vers isn that remark bucail surgeon that think signific that vers contain geocentr idea even geocentr rage centuri and thi for rest qur vers natur rememb read onc fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior articl qgm new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write question for basi moral moral ethic behavior societ accept behavior disagre societi think irrelev individu decid that import societi thi fairli obviou defin accept gener feel idiot polici can legal moral posit think for ourselv mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit
alt.atheism	origin bibl articl apr nott eczcaw mip nott wainwright write argument origin bibl theist acquaint state that thousand bibl discov point time syllabl perfect thi meant that copi time time quot acquaintac approxim year death jesu adda bibl scholar agre that copi each book time time author wrote work thi time period and earlier that exist todai copi cut crap god wrote answer oldest surviv copi testament part book scrap that date mid second centuri complet book letter etc middl centuri complet collect testament date earli centuri thi period write earli church father leader quot scriptur write truth acquaint statement you mean that discov thousand bibl perfect copi date last part centuri you mean that thousand earli manuscript date not letter perfect and that probabl text can reconstruct document and that earliest origin autograph lost written start shortli bibl origin origin author call matthew mark luke john peter paul jame and not identifi long piec string long you make adda regard jim
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost jame hogan write timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write jim hogan quip summari jim stuff jim afraid you miss point you admit that atheist lot sleev you suspect nah will encourag peopl learn atheism atheist sleev suspect quit meager you want send your address learn your faith faith yeah you expect peopl read faq etc and accept hard atheism you leap faith jimmi your logic run steam fine peopl shoot foot and mock idea god hope you understand jim understand you for provid healthi sarcasm that dispel sympathi had for your faith bake real glad you detect sarcasm angl bummin that won get your sympathi your inclin sympathi for faith you religion newsgroup care make whisper your ear delusion jim can piti you jim and that you feel denial faith you pretend that will end happili you start newsgroup alt atheist hard you won bummin good job jim bye bake slim jim delet bye bake bye bye bye bye big jim don forget your flintston chewabl bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski
alt.atheism	studi book mormon don mormon and want independ studi book mormon don bui offici stori gold origin heaven haven read book mormon work learn biblic hebrew will comment result studi style vocabulari place name intern consist and for exampl evid for writer multipl writer mention event place histor person discov archeologist collen andr grino brandt casilla santiago agrino enkidu mic chile hai ma realidad que realidad razon profeta
alt.atheism	gulf war and peac nik articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write wait minut you never plai chamberlain sinc plai chamberlain east timor concern wouldn that lead you that your argument irrelev and had noth gulf war your idea perhap rest world bomb missil washington invad nicaragua grenada panama vietnam mexico hawaii number place wait minut doug you inform that never invad nicaragua liber grenada cuban protect citizen and prevent complet strateg air strip panama invad true twice thi centuri vietnam invit govern vietnam guess invad saudi arabia gulf war mexico invad mexico time onc thi centuri missil for shoot that time hawaii liber spain you mean word invad sort militari action cross border you invad carri connot attack autonom nation nation invad virgin island invad virgin island thi point view your score fall mexico panama peac nik that doesn masturb gun ammo suppos bad peac nik believ peac cost word person support give hitler not austria and czechoslakia poland avert war and hitler wipe jew slav and polit dissid area control long left rest alon suppos bad peac nik you depend your valu you life liberti peac freedom guess not liberti and freedom mean you life you die fight for liberti live tyrant heel bad peac nik problem peac nik not bad and unconscion not argument problem peac nik held ideal and stai conflict issu deal nation defens not will legitim hold point view milit and time resort violenc name peac rank hypocrisi stop warmong will stand and defend freedom tyrant and realiz that requir strong nation defens time soapbox doug graham dgraham bnr opinion regard jim
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost nancyo fraser sfu nanci patricia connor write timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write rule don mix appl orang can you that extermin mongol wors stalin khan conquer peopl unsympathet that atroci stalin kill million peopl love and worship and atheist state can wors that you and david koresh claim christian yup can hear million cheer for josef stalin eat your heart bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski
alt.atheism	risen lord and savior david keresh risen aliv spread word sole intent learn fly
alt.atheism	idl question for fellow atheist acoop mac macalstr edu wrote atheist care specul face world atheist major minor group popul think thi and sinc cut ti christian surpris note that larg major peopl finland apatheist even popul member lutheran church finland religi peopl minor that peopl god case peopl not want seek truth fall prei pascal wager poor argument small minor read bibl regularli major doesn care believ doesn peopl don belief chang lifestyl want virtual gate open christian that not born spirit thi not disturb religion not afraid societi true atheist major imposs dream religion strong appeal peopl nevertheless promis life death human eagerli listen coupl threat etern tortur and idea that moral constant scrutini cosmic cop peopl poison smile pretend swallow and unconsci hope god wouldn notic atheist stanc and accor higher think theistic think typic selfish argument that line think evolv inher motiv not intrins qualit measur stick drawn and cannot assign system belief core altern appli peripheri express selfish logic and reason valu claim that atheist think higher theistic exposit theist make unnecessari assumpt good reason god leap faith revel logic and reason thi question bear resembl long disput problem scienc mathemat work strong deep structuralist atkin propos that perhap mathemat us criterion petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior articl asv new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write qvabj horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qgm new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write make wrong assumpt for basi moral come question idea that heard that moral come societ mandat aspect moral societ moral necessarili crude and broad brush stuff attempt deal that societi and enthusiast individu moral thing includ societ more societi troubl stronger for exampl peopl vegetarian eat meat perfectli legal question for basi moral moral ethic behavior societ accept behavior societi depend societi doesn point irrelev answer societi make rule that question societi make rule that anoth don claim answer don ireland and thing system principl defin accept depend thi come question ideal don consensu imo legal moral posit adopt default posit that peopl moral decis societi busi can put peopl jail can condemn societi sometim that hard trick recognis and equal importantli isn and interf interfer imo isn that interfer jail and forc kind and degre and effect you deriv interfer difficult question sort liar paradox forc for freedom justif that peopl freedom shouldn object freedom paradox doesn aris don activ freedom introduct permiss interfer problem that can peopl agre that level interfer for justic system can even defin that term consensu guess you situat law honour forbid come admit don understand that statement mean that and such legal and such immor law let you you don eat meat for exampl frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	islam genocid psilink robert knowl psilink write date apr gmt frank dwyer frank articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write borrow your post rice psilink robert knowl psilink write you that democraci drive forc massacr east timor odd that world massacr occur religi line independ claim democrat form govern ireland and northern ireland consid democraci you attribut problem democraci even democraci motiv religion democraci rice point fallaci assert that islam evil claim follow evil not assert that democraci massacr read that and point that us indonesian kill east timores result democraci bit weak democraci not motiv for indonesia rememb east timor portgues territori forcibl annex indonesia last heard indonesian di east timor part indonesia portugues coloni strong cathol influenc east timor recal bit odd that anoth war fought peopl happen religion pure coincident guess real motiv vote and make democraci work indonesia point secess movement aceh brutal dealt past indonesian govern harshli secessionist movement evid appear that indonesian govern dealt harshli secess movement that head indonesian arm forc for long time benni murdani christian indonesia heavi hand east timor for long time even murdani head arm forc peopl make indonesian govern gener motiv nation interest not religi fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost robert knowl write atheist time hand apolog didn bother read faq and fire imprecis flame that inexcus nicknam bake flamethrow timmon robert koresh fetesh sic knowl good you weren koresh compound noon todai chanc you rememb koresh dri for your sin and pass that beef jerki umm umm wasn can reli you post you fetish for beef jerki and david koresh bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski
alt.atheism	christian moral articl prca new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write articl jt new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write wrong god free time correct mistak that continu not supposedli proclaim undi love for etern soul speak volum volum that speak fact that leav your choic you leav choic reason odd stori alleg son get kill for and past thousand year leav text pass centuri meddl mean and even word thi pass and interpret come vest interest not allow possibl that not ultim truth talk directli big god make time for creation love give each word direct convers busi unquestion miracul work and speak volum volum that never chanc meet gui and chat
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write jbrown batman bmd trw write articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write fortun think folk your good power and deem accept slaughter ten even hundr thousand iraqi order liber oil hkuwait won war hurrah hurrah number civilian iraqi death exagger and exploit for anti war emotion liber new media fact that iraqi di gulf war civilian war compar size thi centuri analyz thi claim size war defin number particip geograph area number countri involv number casualti size armi durat number casualti absolut and percentag involv geograph area and number countri measur size thi case relev statist number combat total troop compar total casualti total civilian popul affect geograph area compar war talk vietnam and korea make good comparison liber new media talk western new gener american mass media cb nbc abc etc gener tone new war poor poor iraqi precis thi cruis missil blew thi build bit thi due short durat coupl precis surgic bomb techniqu technic recent suspect that medic advanc agre innoc peopl di blanket bomb don hear you bemoan perhap topic hasn crop you want opinion that blanket bomb german citi end world war two appal act wholesal slaughter thi countri commit centuri bomber harri hero mine perhap and atom bomb mistak that easi enlighten viewpoint back war and germani and japan had squash million british had di hundr thousand french coupl hundread thousand american and million russian not mention million jew pole and peopl slavic descent german concentr camp thing consid fire bomb and atom bomb essenti and justifi bring war quick end avoid even greater alli loss for don regret war never exact scienc smart bomb exact smaller percentag civilian casualti sometim mistak made target misidentifi innoc die that war entrench polit ruler oper selfish interest regard for live peopl that war and peopl suffer reason depos entrench polit ruler oper selfish interest you mean that thi appli alli fuss kuwait and not east timor bosnia even tibet iraq bad sell stuff coupl week start bomb make claim effort justifi misguid foreign polici west war evid that west america misjudg hussein drastic onc hussein invad kuwait and threaten militarili corner signific portion world oil suppli had stop war prevent judici and concert effort part west hussein invad kuwait hussein respons for decis invad and onc strong respons west requir mathew your sarcasm note you complet base you come sound complet peac nik idiot feel that not your intent your intent sound love christian you aren good job not love hussein hitler gobbl nearbi countri and continu mass slaughter peopl dominion stop hussein love thing for peopl involv onc set mind militari conquest iraqi war wrong that appeas work war even mention appeas and make you situat even remot analog world war two mention hadn interven allow hussein kuwait appeas precis lesson world learn that motiv western allianc war let hitler austria and czechoslavkia not stop happen and let hussein kuwait not stop eventu gulf war protect saudi arabia guess shouldn fought innoc german civilian kill dresden and hamburg german human you unfortun that hitler grandios quest for thousand year reich consequ stem that tyrant hussein stop kind don understand diplomaci understand point gun regret that bush wimp and didn militari roll into baghdad hussein power and iraqi peopl sacrific not mention american di for naught forward hear your incis comment east timor and tibet and for poor poor rodnei king you stop and juri trial brought back verdict not guilti thing thought hmm aw lot white peopl that juri policemen trial not rodnei king and american law deserv juri peer had black offic involv black juror thi point allegedli racial motiv shallow foam mouth for blood policemen look video tape juri look evid evid you and not bunch policemen beat ly defenceless ground hard imagin thi evid hard imagin argument incredul gain accept rever author construct logic argument can expect anoth revis kid wonder evid seemingli secret not you king deserv good beat and live happili admit that thi prosecut defens talk cannot conclud due silenc princip law thi countri intend protect right accus whether crimin cop not found guilti reason doubt guilt and juri posit assess evid and render verdict fine find hard imagin reason doubt thi case mean cop beat ly defenceless ground your explan mass hallucin orbit mind control laser fake video footag that excess forc involv and frankli origin not guilti verdict baffl learn that prosecut case not convict charg excess forc simpl assault won convict charg aggrav assault intent inflict bodili harm charg new comment akin attempt murder california law base prosecut ask for evid that juri decid that offic not guilti note not not guilti wrong not guilti aggrav assault intent inflict bodili harm seed prosecut defeat overconfid obtain verdict such that for extrem charg fact new comment present true feel not guilti verdict reason mathew thou shalt not kill thou hast pretti good reason for kill case thou shalt kill and kill get cannot help jim brown bibl for love christian mathew quot pretti funni monti python fan you kind that vein oversimplifi moral argument can make contradictori you that regard jim love christian
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl pxq darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner dean kaflowitz decai cbnewsj att wrote interest origin notion you discuss moral free agenc that can god punish person for not believ that person natur and not for that person deni reason tell that god you let atheist mytholog confus you issu webster myth tradit legendari stori belief truth accept uncrit that qualifi almost oxymoron amus instanc found that atheist hold almost atheist view accept uncrit that legend explain basic truth myth don meet criterion divin justic fundament doctrin christian man sin that time you accus referenc mytholog you proced launch your xtian mytholog thi time meet requir myth salvat idea punish base proposit that instinct that god exist creator and not that god exist you fallaci noth terribl difficult thi and biblic liter christian controversi and that make true hold bibl rule controversi read faq you read you miss read not bad suggest for read thi pretend not and mean atheist claim that not god exist and don contradict bibl that author bibl claim repeat wrote for sake get across you trust bibl your trust doesn make credibl bibl that that reason doubt bibl not your alleg god alleg exist refut speci wide condemn justifi that claim that evid for exist god that will unknown deliber ignor bibl ignor excus don ignor bibl bibl univers accept bibl not proof god proof that peopl thought that god prove even that write seri fiction short stori case dionet assum writer believ thing possibl prove that believ and that ignor problem whether not interpret and biblic philosoph correct peopl never heard bibl read faq freedom you free ignor god you free ignor graviti and consequ inevit and case that atheist can accept evid mean bzzt wrong answer graviti directli doesn stop exert direct and ration undeni influenc you ignor god hand doesn gener show supermarket tabloid god doesn exert ration undeni influenc graviti obviou god aren secondli human reason comforatbl concept god that intrins natur human reason come back question god gener and human reason hasn come back exist god come back exist god word doesn gener come back xtian god come back whether god and orient philosoph histori gener doesn pop idea god question natur forc and world wide view human natur make univers and forc control natur tendanc god exist religi wish think thi make point that christian emin reason that divin justic and human natur atheist whether you agre not xtianiti reason religion and reason doesn merit emin divin justic divin not atheist thing human natur second whether atheist correct not you not correct human natur you base your view complet eurocentr approach world you attempt sum human andrew
alt.atheism	genocid caus theism evid articl qibo horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write absenc convinc evid that theist fanat danger atheist fanat continu wari fanat stripe that agnost fanat danger lot fair point mention theist and atheist left agnost mea culpa light that you theist pass agnost rememb your post your daughter sing chrisma carol and your feel you show margin honesti and answer question you left open you ceas respond last time benedikt
alt.atheism	islam genocid articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write delet peopl can imagin dy for capit can imagin dy for democraci lot will die for lord and savior jesu christ di cross for sin motiv pure and simpl cite for thi nonsens peopl will die for mom patriot freedom monei kid fast car and swim pool night kim basing mel gibson and thing evil read histori book fred and religion command commit genocid noth religion religion that not live standard religion wors die coincid assum ist part absolut moral you describ theism strongli correl irrat belief absolut irrat belief absolut strongli correl fanat benedikt
alt.atheism	articl pepper east sun geoff east sun geoff arnold sun bo coast top write your post provok into check save file for memor post captur ken arromde feb subject atheist that articl your question articl averag articl dai for last year note current post rate such that kill file depress larg post save earli dai articl notabl hei interest read post regularli post alt atheism loren sunlight llnl gov loren petrich jchrist nazareth israel rel jesu christ nazareth mrc tomobiki cho cac washington edu mark crispin perri apollo jim perri lippard uavax ccit arizona edu jame lippard minski media mit edu marvin minski interest bunch hee hee hee ain promis that made can broken john law man honor word
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist articl mdinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write thi thread start discuss whether not death penalti constitut cruel punish forbidden constitut didn meant cruel you suprem court and make sens refer constitut quit silent mean word cruel spent quit bit time word constitut pick word mean impli intent look dictionari defin word isn thi suffici question found father cruel and unusu punish hang hang slow strangl pain physic and psychological imagin fire squad note not clean die back dai etc consid cruel your definit allow constitut found father promis that made can broken john law man honor word
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl ajinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write chimp system live social group law dictat undesir behavior promis that made can broken john law man honor word
alt.atheism	thought articl bissda saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write arguement sum book whether jesu god not you don listen perspect for gain listen read faq watch list week and come back and read book matter order broaden your view benedikt
alt.atheism	apostl tortur articl qiu innpq srvr engin umich edu ingl engin umich edu rai ingl write evid for resurrect claim that discipl tortur death for belief and not renounc claim that jesu had come back dead skim act and such and found refer thi happen stephen thi appar wide held belief come evid bibl evid bibl haven found earli author and legend import sourc can found martyriologia cathol church make grimm exact scienc benedikt
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl qlfd inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write chimp system live social group law dictat undesir behavior such law quotat mark enclos law not such rule even instinct unwritten etc sure sort random chanc lead chimp societi into chao system refer moral system you havn shown reason that chimp moral system you redefin promis that made can broken john law man honor word
alt.atheism	articl pepper east sun geoff east sun write your post provok into check save file for memor post captur ken arromde feb subject atheist that articl your question articl averag articl dai for last year note current post rate such that kill file depress larg post save earli dai articl notabl loren sunlight llnl gov loren petrich jchrist nazareth israel rel jesu christ nazareth mrc tomobiki cho cac washington edu mark crispin perri apollo jim perri lippard uavax ccit arizona edu jame lippard minski media mit edu marvin minski interest bunch didn you hear address chang can reach address dkoresh branch davidian compound waco last post alt messian jim god dead and actor plai part sting word fear will find place your heart histori voic reason faith curs will teach freedom past thing can wors noth
alt.atheism	free moral agenc you that physic adam and ev and that human direct decend two human be cain and wive couldn sister didn daughter human genesi and dai adam begat seth hundr year and begat son and daughter felicit chri stuart
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war long articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write jbrown batman bmd trw write articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write liber new media talk western new gener american mass media cb nbc abc etc gener tone new war poor poor iraqi precis thi cruis missil blew thi build bit odd suffer iraqi civilian end war and confin remain qualiti newspap true new media entranc gizmo militari not mention tape video transmiss missil zero target and bunker full civilian hit chang tone that didn stomach for realiti war that innoc peopl die and maim warfar pro gulf war long nice and clean smart missil drop militari hq not pictur dead dy and maim civilian start crop naiv hypocrit innoc peopl di blanket bomb don hear you bemoan discuss blanket bomb and bomb delet thing consid fire bomb and atom bomb essenti and justifi bring war quick end avoid even greater alli loss militarili justifi your comment below that you understood thi mean moral justifi apolog evid that america knew japan surrend hiroshima nagasaki that anoth lie peddl liber media conspiraci wonder thi thought that bomb drop japan island fortress truk good inpenatr militari target second bomb held back for us industri center digress heard that found evid war btw that japan surrend bomb militari junta won moder and reject ulimatum second bomb drop unfortun imo for don regret nuke jap for jesu don regret fact that sometim militari decis made affect live innoc peopl regret circumst make decis and regret suffer caus decis fuss kuwait and not east timor bosnia even tibet iraq bad sell stuff coupl week start bomb make claim effort justifi misguid foreign polici west war evid that west america misjudg hussein drastic onc hussein invad kuwait and threaten militarili corner signific portion world oil suppli had stop can overlook chemic weapon thousand peopl threaten your drive huge ga guzzl car man gotta fact that situat exist that prompt and alli action back water countri back water countri wouldn interven not that don care can world policman coup had occur kuwait invas wouldn act not immin danger perceiv saudi arabia combin two unprovok invas genocid tyrant and potenti danger west oil interest caus action move paragraph hadn interven allow hussein kuwait appeas you hear advoc such action you set strawman not set strawman you want argu war logic altern hussein kuwait diplomat altern includ sanction ineffect guess shouldn fought innoc german civilian kill dresden and hamburg german human you unfortun that hitler grandios quest for thousand year reich consequ stem that translat ask for sens had idea end hitler lead nation didn support hitler dream conquest not democrat vote for polici nsdap elect and that last chanc german peopl vote matter suffer rest thi bother you world full evil and circumst not perfect innoc suffer due wrong action regret that perfect solut forward hear your incis comment east timor and tibet peopl east timor kill dictatorship that invad countri hell even western journalist kill thi happen gulf war didn send bomber east timor aren send bomber not savior world can polic each and countri that decid destruct invad anoth strateg posit relief tibet east timor place that paragraph move your intent sound love christian you aren good job not love hussein hitler gobbl nearbi countri and continu mass slaughter peopl dominion stop hussein love thing for peopl involv onc set mind militari conquest chines govern polici mandatori abort and steril tibetan tibetan peopl round tortur and execut amnesti intern recent report that tortur widespread china aren stop fact activ suck trade freeli stop and support for not agre present polici suck you put agre that deplor and for poor poor rodnei king you stop and juri trial brought back verdict not guilti thing thought hmm aw lot white peopl that juri policemen trial not rodnei king erm sure irrelev trial juri suppos repres cross section popul suppos reflect popul local trial held thi crime commit parti can convinc judg chang venu order not expert california law even law that thi system set you can critic system not unfound alleg racial prejudic thrown and american law deserv juri peer you that black peopl not peer white peopl not point that fact that black juri and that rodnei king black total irrelev thi point allegedli racial motiv shallow thi idea peopl juri peopl stupid nuremburg trial had juri made nazi german perhap peer doesn mean thing murder judg murder mean peopl station life posit understand defend motiv foam mouth for blood policemen look video tape juri look evid evid you and not bunch policemen beat ly defenceless ground hard imagin thi evid hard imagin argument incredul gain accept rever author construct logic argument not talk logic argument talk court law faq point fallaci argument not view fallaci court law grant you thi reason part your logic argument thi discuss thi not court law fact new comment present true feel not guilti verdict reason you not talk earlier bia liber media conspiraci media not total monolith even prevail liber bia program such macneil lehrer new hour give balanc and fair report new even conserv sourc you hurrah for rush btw never us word conspiraci don accept evid theori that pervad liber conspiraci attempt new sourc thou shalt not kill thou hast pretti good reason for kill case thou shalt kill and kill get cannot help jim brown bibl for love christian mathew quot pretti funni monti python fan you kind that vein oversimplifi moral argument can make contradictori you that atheist argu kill innoc peopl you suppos christian argu that kill innoc peopl long you guilti didn that good thing kill innoc peopl end don live perfect world and perfect solut resist tyranni innoc peopl side suffer and die didn unfortun sometim moral relativist argu that satur bomb german citi end world war can evil and unnecessari act agre that evil sens that caus pain and suffer not that unnecessari you that conclus can arriv evalu factor involv and perhap unnecessari that doesn mean that had make decis bomb didn rare can full consequ action make decis time ahead don assum that feel bomb moral justifi don don condemn had make difficult decis difficult circumst you criticis moral relativ past argu that posit judg moral alli action end war you not such posit you moral relativist absolutist posit judg defer judgment you argu that action assess context time and that moral not moral wrong moral make decis bring quick end war simpli refus condemn for decis your christian love your absolut moral quick you discard suit you ivan stang jesu puke dai will stand jesu and give account word and action even thi discours thi forum understand full ramif that and prepar don that you can make claim mathew and btw reason brought blanket bomb germani you bemoan iraqi civilian casualti deplor blanket bomb institut bomb wasn accur hit industri militari target decis method that time gulf war precis bomb norm point make big stink rel civilian casualti that result spite precis bomb civilian proportion and quantit di blanket bomb even precis bomb mistak happen and civilian suffer civilian suffer thi war iani histori iraqi civilian live minim interfer alli air raid stori hundr thousand iraqi civilian dead plain bunk bunk lost servicemen year and major directli involv fight expect swallow that hundr thousand civilian iraqi di war last month and alli precis bomb creat that hogwash hundr thousand iraqi civilian di due action hussein peopl not due alli bomb regard jim
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost maddi hausmann chirp timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write you reason gui not honest and includ sentenc that honest end that swear that nice hmmmm recogn warn sign altern polit and rude come into newsgroup huge chip shoulder call peopl name and make nice whirrr click whirrr you forgot equal whirrr click whirrr below whirr click whirr frank dwyer contain that shell pop stack determin whirr click whirr killfil keith allen schneider frank closet theist dwyer maddi mad sound geek hausmann whirrr click whirrr bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict genocid caus atheism articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write posit aspect thi vers note mauric bucail that geocentr commonli accept notion time and for long time notion geocentr thi vers anywher qur notion heliocentr even galacticentr sole intent learn fly
alt.atheism	amus atheist and anarchist mccullou whippl wisc edu write turn back and reread your post you attack atheism and that agnostic wasn funni atheism that impli that you agnost weak atheist peopl post such inflammatori remark theist reason assumpt you not state rule condescend popul larg theist will not win peopl your faith anytim ruin your credibl condescend popul larg state that happen true for long time couldn that peopl believ thi god idea alien concept not win peopl faith you put faith religion issu had attitud never even occur atheist default guess you common form condescend ration versu irrat attitud onc accept assumpt that god and faith irrat simpli assumpt contradict your assumpt lack consist you faith posit belief that god not exist close logic argument ration peopl problem that logic you soft atheist for flamag line atheist have sleev impli that read clipper project and paranoia seep clipper project btw rule don mix appl orang can you that extermin mongol wors stalin khan conquer peopl unsympathet that atroci stalin kill million peopl love and worship and atheist state can wors that ruler similar thing past stalin plenti document afix blame evid that earli european ruler rule iron fist stalin you threw number and sick hear stalin exampl exampl doesn appli you manag angri your post appear attack form atheism appear attack atheism gener point that mass kill happen for sort reason peopl will hate will and will wave flag justifi cross hammer sickl stalin exampl import not wide unappreci era that peopl want forget peopl love and idea even that had wrought evid refer lack evid neg evid claim pink crow never pink crow that doesn mean couldn exist thi person claim that pink crow even admit hasn captur photo find etc sens that evid not exist pink crow that evid supposs evid for deiti show flaw and doesn show theist want show and pink crow unicorn elv argument world will not swai peopl for simpli not accept analog big reason that peopl want thi life you can pretend that don want thi for can accept and even want sometim and noth uniqu thi exampl peopl want god can love truth proven logic god god principl hard theist necessarili arrog make sens arrog make such claim previou refut stand and anoth net john baptist boast jesu peopl find hard that behavior arrog christian boast thi not necessarili arrog arrog christian doctor and teacher technic you person origin made claim arrog jesu for instanc you talk atheism strong atheism you talk weak atheism refus such claim atheism lack belief us good occam razor make final reject deiti that thing even present hypothesis equal fasion find theist argument not plausibl speak strong atheism find that evid support faith subject evid support love truth subject answer that apolog for you state incorrect assumpt your theism noth that you agnost that you anoth newbi christian net cheap shot apolog bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski
alt.atheism	you god court articl tan psuvm psu edu andrew newel tan psuvm psu edu write articl apr daffi wisc edu mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough articl monack helium monack helium ga uug arizona edu david monack write anoth issu that request not requir recit god part oath theistic juri prejud your testimoni even atheism not relev case recommend procedur for request altern oath affirm dave for follow respond server drop week worth new couldn you ask swear you god and you jesu allah vishnu zue odin specif don obnoxi humbl quit sit back and watch fun jame felder sverdrup technolog inc phone nasa lewi research center cleveland ohio email jfelder lerc nasa gov peopl drink fountain knowledg peopl gargl
alt.atheism	thought articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write deletia wrt pathet jee zu post bissel hope you not flame give coutesi you hasn extend courtesi you shown don pie tammi respect your belief you don stamp into scorn for poster sole purpos appear evangel tammi
alt.atheism	apostl tortur tradit church hold that apostl mean surviv discipl matthia barnaba and paul martyr for john tradit understood read earli church write bibl and heteroorthodox scriptur wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	thought articl saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write want start and that christian make sens you read toni campollo book liar lunat real thing titl write book part effort destroi christian process christian sound you part conspiraci organ belong name book that jesu liar crazi modern dai koresh logic alert artifici triferc explain that never exist good point made thi group that not imposs that amalgam number myth mithra come mind reason wouldn liar follow die for lie wouldn peopl liar peopl gather and gather hear had heal call fool heal peopl logic alert argument incredul hard for you thi doesn mean that isn true liar can pursuas koresh that you site follow that don fake and shown that will die not give get shot koresh shown that will die for believ heal remem heal that attribut not consist gospel heal that not that faith healer can pull todai that earli gospel weren that compel stori bigger appeal niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn david koresh fool logic peopl thi sinc wasn liar lunat real thing not exist number thing that logic pitfal that us flaw logic thi fall into bifurc tri quad etc that valid proceed step person show conclus that altern that onc agre that set argument altern can present and like true can deduc exclud altern can shown that set not inclus conclus base incomplet set invalid even true choic origin choic valid altern conclus that real mccoi isn two altern longer valid thing note fulfil load propheci psalm isaiah and hr alon thi betray and crucifixion don bibl thi moment time write will us rabbi knew propheci wouldn great shake make list action that fullfil propheci compel set clear and explicit propheci and had absolut knowledg fullfil don peopl understand christian not lot church life and total sacrafic for god sake love die and save hei can god inspir turn live that tuff and peopl don want real christian for strong persever weight lift guitar plai drum take time don rush dai christian your life not church onc week help poor peopl onc box into time unit such work thi time sport social life god box and carri into box that creat for ourselv agre you bui into thi load mytholog and that total life respect for xian that don myth true true entir pick and choos that lot leav bad tast mouth jim jame felder sverdrup technolog inc phone nasa lewi research center cleveland ohio email jfelder lerc nasa gov peopl drink fountain knowledg peopl gargl
alt.atheism	thought fri apr gmt healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali trh hope you not flame give coutesi you trh you courteou and receiv courtesi return thi person post worst argument made pro christian peopl jesuit laugh face present such argument ignor fact that not true trilemma for moment nice word maddi origin real word and concentr liar lunat part argument claim that follow liar alon thousand peopl ron hubbard not liar and con artist thousand peopl follow dianet and scientolog baker and swaggert televangelist lie time number follow for lunat exampl hitler insan advisor thought had countri entral and close rule europ german gave live for thi dai follow amaz that peopl us thi argument wrong mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	thought christian apr gmt bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain articl ofnwyg voa andrew cmu edu andrew cmu edu patrick leger write hear baptism birth that isn prei young don that prai young prei young come bright ei altar boi find priest wear that chasibl thing scotsmen kilt never forget dai twelev and accid walk roomful priest sit underwar drink beer and watch footbal kind chang opinion bit didn menac that mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	victim good fight apr level unisa edu desert brat tdb diseas introduc brazilian oher tribe million fair thi happen eventu time american reach europ and thing happen matter togeth mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral frank frank dwyer write articl apr abo mandtbacka finabo abo mat andtbacka write and object valu specif and importantli motiv wild guess and freedom object valuabl freedom world gener doesn freedom tibetan for exampl mathew
alt.atheism	koresh god latest new that koresh will give onc finish write sequel bibl mathew
alt.atheism	articl innf senat bedfellow mit edu tcbruno athena mit edu tom bruno write stuff delet bring point post peopl alt atheism sinc damnedest stai top stuff delet hmm usenet collect hook into switch engin start read alt atheism not post messag time sinc never understand peopl can find time write can bare mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral repli frank frank dwyer peopl not word object mean put word moral assum idiom and cannot defin separ term give object moral moral built object valu dictionari philosophi anthoni flew objectiv belief that moral truth that remain true thought desir for instanc deliber inflict pain anoth simpli pleasur suffer thought plausibl exampl even world sadist reject content remain true remain correct even left count problem for objectivist determin statu moral truth and method can establish accept that such judgement not report relat naturalist fallaci cannot prove fact natur world can analyt sinc thi involv lack action guid content thing plainli true virtu vord involv unhelp practic guid action analyt and synthet thi point objectivist talk evid truth can deni subjectivist claim that evid mind behold not left claim that moral judgement true subjectivist feel that that remain that moral judgement associ hold moral opinion suggest not true prefer human activ david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl apr andrew nrp andrew norman paterson write don you germani daughter born and don german right vote live right citizen british citizen virtu parentag that not full citizenship for exampl don children british virtu fairli that obtain citizenship make applic for requir immigr germani almost that onc appli for citizenship inevit thi case interest your sentenc fact peopl come children born that will human right compar islam countri thi respect peopl iran children will human right you interest for your propaganda purpos time that don iran exemplari good islam state talk right peopl capitalist secular world countri give exampl lack right world countri broadli for exampl central american secular capitalist countri govt support amnesti intern point human right vacua gregg
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write articl jxru new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write you base your belief atheism your knowledg and reason couldn that wrong atheism base ignor ignor exist god don fall into atheist don pride mistak you base ignor couldn that wrong wrong fall into trap that you mention heck talk and didn comment line thought mac bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit
alt.atheism	koresh god fri apr mathew mathew manti latest new that koresh will give onc finish write sequel bibl can fed tax evas don rememb hear run post offic last night mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	pope jewish west cvill wam umd edu stilgar write pope jewish thought that pope bear you that bear shit wood pope cathol connect two line
alt.atheism	bibl quiz articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl qgbmt usenet in cwru edu cleveland freenet edu frank kirschner write sun start orbit earth will accept bibl sinc atheism mean trash religion god inbreed you son pope john paul
alt.atheism	islam author women benedikt rosenau dbstu wrote object belief perfect and make believ act and observ that don contradict defin contradictorili cannot exist that not exist secondli explan for exist object belief you read faq benedikt benedikt can recal claim that god make act particlar that you attempt manufactur contradict god requir behavior compuls believ sens duti standard conduct exist free ignor misunderstand distort wai find conveni respons god edict can us question god exist behavior believ complet separ question that god exist noth contradictori that defin contadictorili cannot exist ask you exist depend grammar you can that poorli defin that insuffici decid confus your point that reason for phenomenon belief object belief lead rat nest unnecessari complex you impli your version thi altern bill
alt.atheism	islam author women scott sauyet ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu wrote peopl hidden motiv state reason for war includ religion you can claim that real reason econom polit ethnic strife fact remain that justif for war conquer heathen you want for instanc that econom chief crusad you make that point come and demonstr that manner you show that not religion you thi manner elimin for crusad scott don make outrag claim religion affect and effect histori for purpso point that claim made wrong and noth valid atheism time made statement that religion sole point that make that kind claim mistaken deliber credit religion awesom power domin histori misunderstand human natur function religion and histori that distort histori thi exaclti and for affect bill
alt.atheism	thought jame felder spbach lerc nasa gov wrote logic alert argument incredul hard for you thi doesn mean that isn true liar can pursuas koresh that you cite thi basi great reject christian account thing word madalyn murrei hair face folk silli disbeliev your incredul you admit that fallaci bill
alt.atheism	thought kent sandvik sandvik newton appl wrote articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain wrote spank wrong didn lord liar lunat origin lewi thi campollo fellow and isn clear connect absurd notion origin christian origen similar statement attribut anselm that understand case reason somewhat exalt post accept mean that statement can properli analys thi venu bill
alt.atheism	thought christian mccreari edm twisto compaq wrote apr gmt bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain articl ofnwyg voa andrew cmu edu andrew cmu edu patrick leger write hear baptism birth that isn prei young don that prai young prei young come bright ei altar boi find priest wear that chasibl thi statement atheist sure not intend wit bill
alt.atheism	thought christian kent sandvik sandvik newton appl wrote thi good point averag peopl not christian fear escap quit simpli improv social life involv american cultur kid immigr for exampl sinc overwhelm major religion western world form simpli choic peopl bore and want live not somethong ordinari weak long doesn hurt social pressur import factor for major passiv christian world todai case earli christian promis heavenli afterlif independ your social statu promis gift reason slave and roman accept religion rapidli thi hypothet proposit you fact you cite your sourc thi amateur sociologist sub branch suffic alert unwari that you screw bill
alt.atheism	nicknam maddi hausmann madhau netcom wrote jcopelan nyx edu and write start poster annoi bobbi bill your command bill shit stirrer connor bobbi circular mozumd not nom net exactli come close wade make insight dead monei repsons agre that get stir character respond kinder you insist surpris find that offend case unavoid for fair import check contribut haven gener and patient verit paragon gentil btw don mind pair bobbi admir tenac you thi hostil environ you offens read your post love and kiss bill name conner not connor point humili innoc
alt.atheism	islam author women keith ryan kmr cwru edu wrote nice cop bill you idea you refer you mind explain cop bill
alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist thi fascin atheist argu for abort defend homosexu mean popul control insist that valu biolog and condemn war and capit punish benedikt contardictori cannot exist thi case mean atheist suppos understand atheist can object war excel mean control popul growth capit punish logic escap and capit punish question proprieti kill punish basi ecomplaint bill
alt.atheism	american and evolut robert singleton bob thnext mit edu wrote isn mutual exclus lend weight increas notion run estim posterior probabl atheist pitch partit and necessarili reduc quantiti theist pitch thi divin compon fall prei ockham razor phenomenon satisfactorili explain and independ evid such compon detail post occam razor not law natur analyz argument even interest cite and end odd that religion simultan condemn primit simpl mind and unscientif anti intellectu and childish and condemn complex occam razor scientif explan thing straightforeward and appar simpler essenti and you that even scientist don fulli comprehend scienc due complex and divers william occam perform lobotomi frontal lobe and thrown thi confus you will straighten tough bill
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write you disprov thing you fail nail post claim that believ possibl god exist god not exist don attack strong atheism sinc guess you below that make weak atheist snip you reason gui not honest and includ sentenc that honest end that swear hmmmm recogn warn sign altern polit and rude come into newsgroup huge chip shoulder call peopl name and make nice whirrr click whirrr clam bake timmon bill shit stirrer connor whirr click whirr frank dwyer contain that shell pop stack determin whirr click whirr killfil keith allen schneider frank closet theist dwyer mind reel bobbi mozumd maddi hausmann madhau netcom centigram commun corp san jose california kid don thi home rememb post profession
alt.atheism	death penalti polit athei articl apr abo mandtbacka finabo abo mat andtbacka write rusnew manti mathew write noam chomski read thi wrong talk outright govern control media aka censorship doesn quick stop shop refer work that short argu for manufactur consent film media you altern movi sourc thi book your local altern theatr contact film transit intern sale jan rofekamp notr dame montreal quebec canada tel fax telex filmtransmtl reader call zeitgeist film shamim moham uunet noao cmcl arizona shamim shamim arizona edu thi cross and garlic mezuzah jewish page koran muslim and zen buddhist you your member leagu for program freedom write lpf uunet net
alt.atheism	request articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain subject request date apr gmt articl qllg mailer fsu edu mayn fsu edu write excess stuff delet that local church elder get revel god devast quak schedul level area independ corrobor friend appar had similar revel quak fact respons request lot seek sign god verac vision thi terribl interest for amount stir creat area peopl take claim make plan target date local religi radio station devot hour discuss topic even call live broadcast host that full account convers provid famili and surviv devast and ruin that will invari follow quak bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea similar incid year ago climatologist ithink that profess name iben brown predict that earthquak hit madrid fault dec school missouri that fault line cancel school for dai peopl evacu madrid and town teh wouldn supris journalist area resid teh earthquak never occur us live southern illinoi and lican middl school built directli fault line had school laugh poor idiot believ predict bob you want excus convert christian you gonna tammi trim heali
alt.atheism	studi book mormon articl snx enkidu mic agrino enkidu mic andr grino brandt write agrino enkidu mic andr grino brandt subject studi book mormon date sun apr cst don mormon and want independ studi book mormon don bui offici stori gold origin heaven haven read book mormon work learn biblic hebrew will comment result studi style vocabulari place name intern consist and for exampl evid for writer multipl writer mention event place histor person discov archeologist collen andr grino brandt casilla santiago agrino enkidu mic chile hai ma realidad que realidad razon profeta don book mormon supposedli translat biblic hebrew read that prophet joseph smith traslat gold tablet sort egyptian ish languag mormon post tammi trim heali
alt.atheism	societ basi for moral articl prv new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb wrote expect follow notion societ mandat moral pardon extrem couldn murder your brother and that exercis right felt good didn want forc moral don follow your moral good statement appli empir measur defin exact social moral moral base social rule ancient religi doctrin will never common and singl denomin for defin moral and such defin absolut and object moral doom fail long human thi incred talent creativ think cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice wrote fred problem such reason that for believ measur tool state that person real muslim christian person not such tool and religion misus power and make bad show sore point religion word show movement that can spin khomeini stalin davidian hussein don such system exist reason for that condit free will human free will can li and half truth system and abus for end don such tool exist addit such thing object inform togeth religion and doctrin freeli misus purpos thi remind descart whisper deamon you can trust bother cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl pxq darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner wrote for your question moral free agenc christian posit freedom acknowledg god moral practic direct outgrowth excercis that freedom you free ignor god you free ignor graviti and consequ inevit and case that atheist can accept evid mean that prefer not accept noth evid agre had hard feel not believ grand grand mother told elv danc barn earli morn prefer not accept even statement provid truth life hard cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl mvo blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde wrote articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write read thi group benefit know deviant view articul not true view khomeini basic principl islam point view atheist you claim khomeini wasn practic true islam that you member group suppos you two true muslim fred rice answer thi earli post problem your argument that you not real believ and fake thi person and god your assumpt that claim believ believ not necessarili true word that defin true and fals muslim back squar khomeini and hussein innoc and can defin evil good islam worshipp cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	islam author women articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice wrote problem your argument that you not real believ and fake thi person and god your assumpt that claim believ believ not necessarili true that leav door total open for khomeini hussein rest consid true muslim and you can judg thi god and person you appli your rule atheist agnost you don belief thi and god hoopla khomeini not real muslim and hoopla atheist not real human be cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	suggest for resourc faq date mon apr gmt bruce stephen bruce liverpool good book summar and compar religion good confess don that check faq had alert reader list book suffer christian base agre that traffic thi natur islam refer good overview nice book present fairli unbias account religion call man religion john noss textbook class had compar religion such thing decent bibliographi each chapter jump point for read doesn compar religion directli describ each individu and note similar noth read even remot describ preachi christian base fact christian mercifulli consum page book divid major region world biggi began india east asia east noth world religion aztec maya inca etc stuff peopl kill each nowadai and older religion snuf you stuff coupl book call ancient east jame pritchard pretti cool epic gilgamesh code hammurabi stuff back men god and god men essenti read for wish make religion and make sound real good
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost date apr gmt bake timmon timmbak mcl ucsb edu atheist time hand apolog didn bother read faq and fire imprecis flame that inexcus nicknam bake flamethrow timmon you weren koresh compound noon todai chanc you rememb koresh dri for your sin and pass that beef jerki umm umm
alt.atheism	object valu scientif accuraci year can that christian moral articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti wrote lpzsml unicorn nott steve lang write valu can refer mean for exampl comput scienc true and fals not lisp true you defin statement that defin polar and state consid polar mean nil fals true cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	mari fault dfuller portal videocart dave fuller write nice attempt chri verrri close you miss conspiraci step joseph knew knock couldn that mari prego that wouldn for popular local circl happen that feel guilti feel embarrass and decid improv imag downfal for clever come gain respect for coupl joseph and mari receiv prais paid jesu lucki for that babi didn obviou deform mari get pregnant wedlock save face and joseph that god that pregnant and babi turn deform even wors stillborn lot explain dave buckminst fuller that keeper nicknam nanci you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu life not ceas funni peopl die ceas peopl laugh
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict articl nrl navi mil khan itd itd nrl navi mil umar khan write man centuri arabia not includ holi qur assum had author judg qur not mutton head argument wade todai lot book written thi subject book can speak eloqu hope bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bnr rashid write not thi charg shatim appli rushdi and encompass umbrella fasad rule defin word shatim and fasad you us john david munch jmunch hertz ele calpoli edu heart can chang full hate love peopl allow base live heart can happen danger situat opinion bobbi mozumd describ problem atheism
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl apr nott eczcaw mip nott wainwright write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write author refer author world islam commun point simpli that islam law appli muslim wherev despit fact that islam law not enforc islam countri muslim resid decid islam commun rule legal consequ isl not decis rule legal consequ islam law and not law thi obviou enforc judgment distinct make judgment for exampl judgment world court thi internation recogn tribun judgment physic econom effect import despit fact that judgment cannot enforc person excommun similar decid mete violent law such fatwa break law and person such liabl prosecut you read thi thread thi post ignor countri law prefer religi law not indigen countri question absurd and arrog notion sort anarch anarch explicitli islam you for your reason respons besid point make thi thread gregg
alt.atheism	jewish settler demolish mosqu gaza iwxm new chalmer bertil dtek chalmer bertil jonel write articl kutluk ccl umist kutluk ccl umist kutluk ozguven write atheist not mention quran quran point view and minut reason can that such thing peopl that atheist aren atheist quran word din mean individu think behav commun order and protocol base set belief thi interpret weaker term religion atheist not mention quran jew mushriqin christian etc din din you set belief assumpt etc forma social code for exampl marxist such histori conflict etc that not put idol sometim repres assupt not mean mushriq roughli polytheist cannot social atheism commun that commun common idea standard belief coordin societi inscrib assumpt nation progress natur consequ human activ parlamentarian democraci doubtlessli govern individu insist not god quran point view definit atheism not exist atheist societi fact mean reject din our atheism can exist peopl reject idol god dogma supposit societi that part and that case that person deviat belief and quran tell such deviat and disbelief mention quran point thing atheism macro level minut kutluk
alt.atheism	nostalgia recent rise nostalgia thi group combin incred level utter bullshit prompt comb archiv and pull alt atheism for your read pleasur post coupl dai group concensu demand that stop run good materi haven care past save attribut come john johnson correct wrong thi longest entir collect that propheci fulfil christian religion and judg claim import claim fulfil earlier jewish propheci scribe matthew perhap eager draw think prophet answer career jesu nazareth you will matthew main strategi testament passag not even promis messiah and appli circumst testament bear mind question authent account sinc gospel written year jesu execut not happen exactli state for purpos analysi will claim face immanuel begin begin mari will bear son and you joseph will name jesu mean salvat for will save peopl sin thi happen fulfil lord had spoken prophet isaiah dai ahaz bce king judah rezin syria and pekah israel made war jerusalem capitol judah not quit conquer hous david ahaz and court judah told thi heart and heart peopl shook and lord isaiah meet ahaz and lord spoke ahaz prophet isaiah natur sign your lord can deep sheol high heaven ahaz won will not put lord test isaiah hear hous david not for you weari men that you weari god lord will give you sign behold young woman child and will bear son and name immanuel mean will eat curd and honei refus evil and choos good for child refus evil and choos good land two king you dread will desert matthew home sentenc that ital hebrew word almah young woman specif virgin thi not propheci messiah not propheci event happen year not propheci virgin bethulah mother short not jesu matthew made us vers context and make fit specif case mari note that want read propheci gener manner gener can made fit mari mari virgin not young woman child fit shadi and problem jesu thought christian walk men never call name immanuel christian wish claim thi propheci for jesu becom cut and past propheci second class propheci not convinc egypt jesu birth bethlehem matthew tell quick and unment excurs egypt wish liken jesu mose thi escap alleg infanticid rampag king herod and remain death herod thi fulfil lord had spoken egypt cal led son lord thi hosea israel child love and egypt call son call peopl sacrif al and burn incens idol matthew conveni omit rest hosea oracl israel that onc call egypt want return thi histori jesu not spoken and draw kind parallel wind jesu that flee and resist thi propheci not convinc matthew had hope rachel weep jesu vacat egypt matthew that king herod sought kill and order execut young male children matthew write thi that spoken prophet jeremiah fulfil voic heard ramah wail and loud lament rachel weep for children refus consol refer passag jeremiah refer carri israel into exil sargon assyria bce rachel ancestor major tribe israel ephraim and manasseh weep for descend metaphor sinc rachel live and di hebrew even egyptian exil interest note that leah not rachel ancestor judean land jesu and bethlehem weep for children leah connexion that rachel bethlehem that legend that buri north citi ephrath bethlehem for herod and infanticid that such event occur never event not mention allud anywher bibl mention secular record time herod unlik reign and evil deed herod carefulli record thi prime exampl event ad jesu life enhanc messag church gospel stori similar tale infant mose egypt highli like that devic set matthew add prophet artifici approv jesu not surpris that matthew conveni neglect mention rest jeremiah quot children prophet speak not dead exil assyrian empir comfort weep rachel that children will return will gather back togeth thi not suit matthew purpos children speak dead for good propheci matthew set not even that and bother check not convinc nazaren not even chapter find anoth matthean propheci leav egypt joseph wife infant jesu live citi nazareth that spoken prophet fulfil call nazaren thing notic that matthew not mention name prophet thi time second messian propheci speak nazaren wors propheci period mention nazaren wors nazaren mention testament book judg angel tell samson mother that will judg conceiv and bear son razor tough head for will nazirit god dai birth will deliv israel hand philistin thi not propheci jesu messiah that can found matthew begun overboard cut and past propheci that simpl make bear diseas jesu heal peopl physic ill and disabl thi fulfil spoken prophet isaiah infirm and bore diseas expect vers quot isaiah quot context and word skew fit christian scheme sure suffer servant born sick and carri pain read surround passag isaiah that prophet speak present tens collect nation israel jehovah chosen servant and peopl speak israelit suffer exil voic gentil nation that thi imag deepli ingrain jewish ident imag chastis cherish israel instrument nation salvat vers speak israel take sick liter and metaphor manifest guilt and disciplin not speak servant and heal peopl notic that servant isaiah take sick and pain nation and individu jew jesu not diseas vers isaiah not propheci come that had happen believ that jesu etern punish hell not bear ill heal want that figur jesu reenact deed israel spiritu aton admit that matthew parallel miss intend effect silent messiah heal multitud common that jesu order quiet presum that wouldn arous attent local ruler thi fulfil spoken prophet isaiah behold servant chosen belov soul pleas will put spirit and will announc justic gentil will not wrangl cry aloud will hear voic street will not break bruis reed quench smolder wick bring justic victori and gentil will hope name isaiah passag quot read behold servant uphold chosen soul delight put spirit and will bring justic nation will not cry lift voic make heard street will not break bruis reed quench smolder wick will faithfulli bring justic will not fail burn dimli discourag bruis establish justic earth and coastland await law you matthew conveni left part passag not suit deal jesu christian never jesu fail never light mankind burn dimli servant nation israel will come end job gentil come embrac will longer chosen peopl will children end phrase chang judaic coastland await law christolog gentil will hope name origin proclaim torah law jehovah rewrit fit strang doctrin believ name doubt servant refer not jesu read chapter isaiah and hear belov blind and imperfect servant peopl rob and plunder that matthew attempt propheci examin crumbl dai and night come propheci supposedli utter mouth god jesu speak crucifixion and resurrect for jonah belli whale for dai and night will son man heart earth dai and night discuss can occur jew understood dai dai name each hour long last sunset sunset refer dai period light end sunset time scale sabbath dai began fridai even and last saturdai even thi jew celebr sabbath daylight portion saturdai sundai real miracl that christian didn forget that saturdai seventh and last dai week dai and night refer togeth hour daylight portion and hour night period spoken jesu that will grave hell unresurrect for dai and night good book tell jesu crucifi ninth hour fridai afternoon put into grave that jesu left grave rose dawn call sundai dawn sabbath thi mean that jesu time for clariti grave fridai night time sundai morn add time fridai sinc bibl not specif thi mean jewish time that grave for dai two night and possibl coupl hour dai thi problem for jesu predict absolut even death involv dai and night even modern time measur led suspect that thi error anoth matthew mistak and that gospel writer put fals word into god mouth and matter made predict unconvinc counter convinc hear understand jesu tool habit speak vast audienc parabl stori deeper mean found you elect chosen understand messag jesu reason that can understand parabl peopl cannot understand bother sinc will not accept plain messag matthew audienc fulfil propheci isaiah you will hear never understand and you will never perceiv thi peopl heart grown dull ear heavi hear and shut ey not perceiv ear and understand heart and turn for heal origin isaiah passag part earlier work call ministri thi bce israel flourish fall author assyria isaiah see good time end and vision call bring reform israel and judah and and thi peopl hear and hear not understand and not perceiv make heart thi peopl fat make ear heavi and shut ey will not ey hear ear and understand heart and turn and heal isaiah long lord and citi lie wast inhabit and hous men and land utterli desol and men and forsaken place land and tenth will remain will burn terebinth oak stump stand tree fell holi seed stump that peopl israel stop listen prophet warn reaffirm promis made solomon and david seed lineag you read rest isaiah you find that thi fulfil plan us israel servant light nation isaiah that matthew cut and past portion isaiah vers suit gospel that alter word make fit peopl didn understand jesu stori and isaiah vers not propheci command present onc matthew propheci fall flat face matthew make jesu parabl prophet approv noth parabl thi fulfil spoken prophet will open mouth parabl will utter that hidden sinc foundat world matthew botch attempt quot not prophet psalm will open mouth parabl will utter dark sai thing that heard and thing that father told will not hide children come gener gloriou deed lord point vers psalm not come prophet you want that earlier copi matthew gospel even insert isaiah name thi prophet appar scribe caught error and cover perhap signific part thi that onc matthew alter testament scriptur jesu earlier speak parabl that will not understand parabl psalm not hidden speak thing that father told jesu deal thing hidden sinc foundat world jesu dealt lot secreci and confus thi direct opposit parabl psalm matthew had rewrit and onc matthew artifici propheci fall flat face christian rare thi matthew propheci aren thing christian that begin bad excus faith that discipl cast demon case not know epilepsi peopl thought diseas posses demon that discipl unabl dispossess epilept jesu perhap enlighten report rebuk didn faith thi strang thi demon special that true believ faith not appar faith will move mountain you will find dai that can move real mountain part sea miracl charismat can speak rumour happen trip mexico farawai place major miracl make woman arthriti feel sundai morn and god includ jesu shroud ancient lore and write protect skeptic sacr past dead sleep hide heaven peopl rumour immin return and great miracl dai long life tale mystic stori miracl distant time distant place god us reveal men dai jehovah silent theologian give excus don god anymor lazi not zealou sin plan put demand appear had faith will meet term even piou men not you dear reader not not liter you that true that presumptu and bold search your heart you mean that religion make peopl feel good and content not faith not merit sometim love peopl you worship live peopl chang that peopl lull sleep satisfi turn into everydai sight that not speak not peopl us world that good compass human heart love and men and women forgiv practis christian atheist alik beauti creat mind man thing that thi faith jesu ride ass shortli accept role jewish messiah king jesu request donkei brought for ride into jerusalem thi place fulfil spoken prophet daughter zion behold your king come you humbl mount ass and ass colt passag quot zechariah read differ your king come you triumphant and victori humbl and ride ass ass colt will command peac nation isn that differ that zechariah involv anim ass colt matthew read poetic word slightli differ jesu call for colt and adult ass matthew version comic pictur divin christ sweat straddl two donkei thi inevit lead theolog proctolog dilemma find that account written earlier mark colt call for and brought jesu thi fit vers zechariah properli and show that matthew attempt us prophet vers bungl exclud respect christian met notic that christ thought ridden ass situat revers nowadai enter jerusalem templ priest anger peopl and youngster call jesu messiah jesu repli expect matthew haven you read mouth babe and suckl thou brought perfect prais like that matthew made thi respons sinc jesu never point such prophet thing and sinc expect quot error fit matthew track record quit jesu matthew haven you read for sourc read psalm yahweh lord majest your name world you glori chant heaven babe and infant you found bulwark your foe enemi and aveng passag comment perfect prais spoken psalm and prais not messiah king and not jesu mention case matthew pen make conveni prophet scriptur yhvh lord jesu ask promis jewish messiah king descend jew agre king david jesu counter quot psalm lord lord sit hand put your enemi your feet face jesu deni necess david descent assum opposit answer christian answer that agre make hidden point reveal mysteri divin natur messiah king tempt thi christian and not interest matter investig problem jesu time psalm thought messiah and easi david refer messiah superior scriptur messiah that expect great king bring jew time even david rule jew listen had good answer and passag refer divin messiah such christian worship problem li mean thi psalm error that appar jew jesu time had made rememb that faction jew result expect messiah king jesu appar adventist audienc thought messiah advent immin and interpret psalm messian problem psalm liter read yhvh utter lord sit hand make your enemi your footstool yhvh send your mighti scepter zion rule midst your foe your peopl will offer freeli dai you lead your host holi mountain you priest order melchizedek forev word lord mistakenli capitalis christian bibl denot divin thi lord hebrew word adoni and capitalis exist adoni simpli mean lord gener term us us scriptur refer king and address respect noth text impli that word refer divin messiah king that thi suppos written david not titl psalm translat psalm david psalm david fit assum written court poet david coven and endors psalm had written david that talk messiah idea perfect king descend david not present david ag extens tale david do and sai includ prais messiah psalm show evid written long david dead time exil had put show favour for david kingdom hold descript psalm fit david david promis rise power victori enemi success judgement nation conquer achiev priesthood common melchizedek righteou king enabl bless peopl fit not blame thi problem matthew alon not artifici propheci allud us scriptur question thi event common gospel matthew easili thi time interest note matthew dress event earlier gospel mark tell tale jesu simpli speak crowd matthew pharise religi competit infant christian target jesu question expect matthew write that event end embarrass pharise such power pen mose jesu had togeth leav gospel stori matthew momentarili pseudo propheci john gospel gospel stori john deserv special treatment remov real event jesu career told even matthew for moment will vers earli church leader found religion jewish hope messiah king and artifici extens origin promis made construct histori abraham mose wrote promis land and nationhood jewish peopl thi accomplish eventu rule king david christian decid that claim fulfil promis expand promis preach heavenli kingdom john speak your father abraham rejoic dai and glad nice tie approv for jesu abraham abraham knew noth jesu messiah christian and fail find event testament correspond john propheci par for john make testament back forerunn matthew christian that faith foundat such fraud and surpris cling potter field told that jesu betrai jerusalem follow juda iscariot matthew write and throw piec silver templ juda depart chief priest take silver isn law for put treasuri sinc blood monei bought potter field buri stranger fulfil spoken prophet jeremiah and thirti piec silver price price had set son israel and gave for potter field lord direct thi propheci utterli gross bastardis testament scriptur matthew made mistak name prophet zechariah utter vers matthew make us zech and weigh wage thirti shekel silver yhvh cast treasuri lordli price paid thirti shekel silver and cast into treasuri hous yhvh vers zechariah not deal betray messiah deal shepherd like priest chosen serv function presid peopl shortli send judah and israel into conflict anoth word treasuri had replac king jame scholar potter precis thi made matthew quot fit thi blatant error correct translat hebrew treasuri make perfect sens zechariah context potter field total unrel whether mistransl intent not specul matthew track record find hard resist notion intent dishonesti matthew ampl reason for alter text thirti piec silver match juda situat and christian reader will disregard contextu incongru matthew anoth propheci toss correct translat zechariah directli contradict situat juda and high priest high priest not put monei treasuri worthless shepherd zechariah exactli opposit averag thursdai night bibl student propheci present matthew testament face matthew work convinc wine vinegar cast lot jesu led crucifi gave vinegar drink mingl gall tast not drink and had crucifi divid garment cast lot that fulfil spoken prophet part garment and vestur cast lot vinegar offer jesu common sour wine type that roman soldier drank regularli find that jesu di soldier give drink not pollut gall jesu thirst bowl vinegar stood put spong full vinegar hyssop and held mouth had receiv vinegar finish matthew draw not passag prophet psalm look for piti and for comfort found gave poison for food lit put gall meat and for thirst gave vinegar drink add punish punish acquitt thee blot book live sour wine offer jesu request drink thi show piti psalm quot david and polit and militari enemi not messiah jesu not surpris that run into problem that jesu psalm ask for damnat crucifi jesu gospel jesu father forgiv don matthew miss attempt creat propheci gall bitter substanc put into jesu drink not meat psalm stipul propheci vinegar faulti natur cast lot thi bring psalm deserv discuss suffic that fact that jesu cloth divid told great thing turn that thi happen felon dai will perhap erron passag psalm appli jesu bring interest question qualiti jesu cloth for man remov worldli possess ownership cloth worthi cast lot rais suspicion psalm thi psalm attribut david lament condit attack enemi becom song prais yhvh and hope context part fit plight jesu crucifixion quit will examin primari passag vers god god you forsaken you help word groan god cry dai you don answer and night find rest jesu cri sentenc cross thi suggest that psalm jesu king david rest stanza not fit nice jesu execut jesu not pictur complain ordeal suppos lamb led mute shearer jesu doesn groan even cross not cry dai and night cross worm and man scorn men mock make face and wag head commit yhvh deliv for delight thi fit jesu execut pretti except holi messiah call worm bull encompass open mouth wide raven and roar lion yea dog round compani evildo encir cle pierc hand and feet can bone divid garment and cast lost for raiment you yhvh not deliv soul sword life power dog save mouth lion and afflict soul horn wild bull quit convinc and earli christian father wrote thi propheci thought thi propheci fatal flaw word pierc not exist psalm correct hebrew translat yea dog round compani evildo encircl lion hand and feet hebrew phrase lion and rare verb form can mean pierc differ phonet charact word hebrew text liter lion ari make sens context and even fit anim imageri emploi psalm writer conveni that urg christian chang word aru add need artifici weight propheci thi christian translat chosen correct translat not elimin psalm refer jesu absenc not for honesti translat apart erron vers psalm not lend jesu easili vers speak suffer save sword cross thi natur fit psalm true subject king david side note that crucifixion not pierc hand palm forearm thi doesn favour tradit thought resurrect jesu show discipl scar palm fact aren bound religi belief matthew escap culpabl thi time not attempt draw direct link thi psalm and lord jesu psalm mind gospel writer compil stori and interpret jesu life and death scriptur contribut written question that repercuss for christian theologi easi for not faith fundamentalist event testament enhanc scribe such eager matthew specul simpli investig scriptur matter and prophet claim thi not good thing for matthew refer pierc lot jesu crucifixion john gospel recount written year fact tell jesu execut soldier pierc side spear and blood and water thing place that scriptur fulfil will pierc thi built passag blatantli context prophet zechariah tell nation israel will split jerusalem and judah and war and yhvh will give victori judah and that dai will seek destroi nation that come jerusalem judah and will pour spirit compass and supplic jerusalem that pierc will mourn and weep bitterli you weep firstborn child john attempt make propheci perhap weaker that matthew attempt matthew excontext passag john error grossli obviou and blatant not speak for gospel writer help show prophet aspect religion found reckon transgressor arrest jesu quickli execut for claim jewish kingship messiahship version gospel tale jesu get execut two thiev and crucifi two robber left and scriptur fulfil reckon transgressor mark link jesu passag isaiah servant nation israel passag not messiah for read chapter isaiah and surround chapter see that servant nation vers thi servant past not predict come event servant thought crimin thi happen fit descript jesu had passag messiah not clear execut jesu two thiev fulfil propheci isaiah jesu fittingli fulfil ministri consid blasphem and troublemak career lock singl event poor steal propheci thi case that mark had made analog gener comparison mark crucifi jesu revil thi expect coupl robber recount luke decid chang thing luke tell and crimin hang rail aren you messiah save and thi fit mark recount tell peopl crucifi jesu save and that robber luke crimin rebuk don you fear sinc you sentenc condemn and justli for receiv due reward for deed thi man noth wrong and jesu rememb you come your kingdom and jesu answer verili you todai you will paradis thi dialogu highli contriv stretch imagin bit thi pictur ruffian rebuk fellow crimin such eloqu speech strang pictur crimin lament good punish and just suffer such man appar nobl and principl doesn like robber amount theatric creat luke luke recount disagre mark luke crimin revil jesu not easi discount discrep account made part error free word not thi avenu open thi anoth exampl writer testament passag and expand and reinterpret suit theologi thi case embroideri creat embarrass problem end world come perhap extraordinari and embarrass passag testament found synopt gospel stori and cast unfavour doubt theori christian jesu mention destruct jewish templ and build and discipl thi and end world warn discipl will thi templ destruct and will sign your come and close ag jesu care that lead you astrai for will come name christ you will hear war and rumour war for thi place end not for nation will rise nation thi begin birthpang will deliv you put you death and fals prophet will aris and lead astrai endur end will save thi gospel will preach world testimoni nation and end will come you desol spoken prophet daniel judea flee mountain immedi tribul dai sun will darken star will fall heaven will sign son man heaven and tribe earth will mourn and son man come and will send angel and gather elect learn lesson fig tree branch becom tender and put leav you that summer you thing you will that gate you thi gener will not pass thing place dai and hour not angel not son father you readi for son man come hour you not expect thi clear that jesu thought world lifetim discipl tell that doesn exact dai hour that will come and readi theologian wet pant panic find thi holi error jesu made explicit told discipl that gener end and that prepar for prepar swept resort remov inerr natur bibl and that phrase thi gener not pass mean thi race peopl will not pass word for gener us time refer exactli that gener discipl interest notion that god decid learn greek didn learn make clear quit obviou rest dialogu that discipl suppos live end world charg mistransl complet blown apostl respons becom abundantli clear rev peter john and rev that jesu meant exactli end for year christian rationalis thi chapter matthew mean altogeth for year wait for execut leader come back hear war and rumour war that come sure wait can you imagin tire sit holi wait for moment spring shortli crucifixion jesu nazareth joshua ben joseph di that dai dai and night period time etern second can decid make for troubl resurrect glow divin radianc saviour decid wasn interest religion stick and disappear sight into heaven stori thing attribut jesu peopl write gospel stori jesu fulfil propheci and scriptur that thi matter quit shaki church histori christian held fast faith simpl belief doctrin object not solv argument brute forc faith and forget question question and investig never easiest treat matter for year propheci cite testament larg accept thing continu that for time paus moment doctrin christian accept and us properli improperli support war and persecut suppos propheci christian can secur hold jesu don that come bring peac earth haven come bring peac sword
alt.atheism	thought bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write want start and that christian make sens you read toni campollo book liar lunat real thing titl write book part effort destroi christian process christian assum you post encourag comment histori toni campello read not arguement sum book whether jesu god not you don listen perspect for gain listen good hear that reason christian christian scientist note australia strong movement bunch christian scientist that singl event bibl exactli true and that ration explan for that can justifi law physic for exampl chap prove that ag univers year and that error convent calcul result fact that speed light rapidli decai year and thi not account for book that jesu liar crazi modern dai koresh that never exist and bibl stori and never intend becom manifesto for billion peopl toni follow that reason wouldn liar follow die for lie wouldn peopl liar peopl gather and gather hear had heal million peopl di for lie thi point difficult substanti sinc not defin great religi argument work that aztec warrior sacrif god belief that thi act bring victori spanish invad list endless aztec lost btw call fool heal peopl that perfectli reason not ground for becom christian point not add weight claim that jesu real thing niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn david koresh fool logic peopl thi you documentari rise nazi germani point toni mention thi call werner heisenberg and colleagu fool illog men support hitler base presum emot issu ration agreement principl argument invalid toni thought that hitler sane sinc wasn liar lunat real thing hmmm don argument warrant us thing note fulfil load propheci psalm isaiah and hr alon thi betray and crucifixion don bibl thi moment time write will us thi alot religi discuss had peopl result quot bibl reason peopl can bibl treat stori sort metaphor represent messag that author present interpret part bibl liter will end sort shit toni argument perfectli reason for peopl event describ bibl place convinc think bibl total fiction that jesu real quot book total pointless for exampl mathemat you cannot equal equal don peopl understand christian that possibl explain peopl kill religi war and hundr version claim correct not lot church life and total sacrafic for god sake love die and save hei can god inspir turn live that tuff and peopl don want real christian for strong persever weight lift guitar plai drum take time don rush dai christian your life not church onc week help poor peopl onc box into time unit such work thi time sport social life god box and carri into box that creat for ourselv you post thi part alt religion you flame never understood emot sentiment stranger interest peopl famou that two evil life polititian and church rule fear live fear dead press find exact quotat cheer charl
alt.atheism	bibl quiz articl apr ccsua ctstateu edu kellyb ccsua ctstateu edu wrote articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write sun start orbit earth will accept bibl sinc atheism mean trash religion god inbreed you son that witti sig file sum great deal atheist thought imo simpl sentenc atheism isn religion steve mullin vo stratu man empti purs into opinion stratu opinion head can benjamin franklin
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict articl nrl navi mil khan itd itd nrl navi mil umar khan write strongli suggest that you book call bibl quran and scienc mauric baucail french surgeon not comprehens research imagin your librari can for you interlibrari loan hold time read short baucail began investig bibl pre ceiv scientif inaccuraci and inconsist assum that problem caus poor translat dai read find hebrew greek arama found that problem didn wors decid religion had problem pick holi qur french and found similar prob lem not appli logoic had bibl learn read arab problem had found french version arab unabl find wealth scientif statement holi qur find made sens modern understand investig tradit hadith had scienc fill scienc problem contemporari narr time had pour standard primit world view conclus that impress that holi qur had scienc accur impress that holi qur not rampant error evidenc tradit man centuri arabia not includ holi qur assum had author short writer writer quran decid stai scienc you not open your mouth you don put you foot into your mouth you quran not talk scienc can not make claim bobbi that you great scienc quran basic want that religi text suppos scientif treatis request theist stop make such wild claim vinayak vinayak dutt mail vdp mayo edu standard disclaim appli
alt.atheism	bibl contradict list bibl contadict you dispit free christian vers bibl
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl jt new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write atheism base ignor ignor exist god don fall into atheist don pride mistak you base ignor couldn that wrong wrong fall into trap that you mention wrong god free time correct mistak that continu not supposedli proclaim undi love for etern soul speak volum for trap you not posit that don god not you can motiv you that earnestli search for god for year and never found bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	silli question tianiti articl pww spac rice edu pww spacsun rice edu peter walker write pww spacsun rice edu peter walker subject silli question tianiti date mon apr gmt articl qaqi inngj gap caltech edu werdna cco caltech edu andrew tong wrote
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict umar khan khan itd itd nrl navi mil wrote strongli suggest that you book call bibl quran and scienc mauric baucail french surgeon not comprehens unabl find wealth scientif statement holi qur find made sens modern understand investig tradit hadith had scienc fill scienc problem contemporari narr time had pour standard primit world view conclus that impress that holi qur had scienc accur impress that holi qur not rampant error evidenc tradit man centuri arabia not includ holi qur assum had author thi book worth read sensibl view thi issu book two section section contain fairli reason analysi bibl show inconsist bibl and modern scienc that surpris section analys koran version testament stori and face present good case show koran consist modern scienc plain that thi consist vagu phraseolog koran flood for exampl bibl full detail forti dai and forti night pair anim etc thi nonsens koran descript event obscur make interpret such big river flood for dai and caus damag contradict not fact koran consist modern scienc consist due vagu compar book that time not achiev book conclud koran had divin inspir time written lot ridicul idea univers and can found koran argu for great book talk not absurd extrem memori miss point leonard mail newnham bradford
alt.atheism	bibl and abort jame lippard lippard skyblu ccit arizona edu wrote exodu and men struggl each and strike woman child that miscarriag injuri sure fine woman husband demand and pai judg decid injuri you appoint penalti life for life ey for ey tooth for tooth hand for hand foot for foot burn for burn wound for wound bruis for bruis straightforward interpret vers that men fight strike woman and miscarri penalti fine woman injur di lex talioni doctrin ey for ey appli thi jewish interpret and support jewish commentari vers thi quit embarrass for pro lifer christian altern explan altern interpret word miscarriag mean prematur birth child born aliv and injuri mean injuri woman fetu thi not straightforward interpret not support jewish commentari and not appear support part bibl histor refer abort thi time ancient jew refer understand abort ask not make point veil question understand medic procedur abort not surpris bibl make refer make refer nuclear power and contamin your interpret reason reason reject hand king jimmi translat mischief thi not necessarili impli woman wife expect and spontan abort feel that life not simpli process halt
alt.atheism	you will hell you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger wrote khomeini advoc view that seri twelv islam leader twelv imam free error sin thi make heret wow you quicker point heresi church middl ag even sheik azhar don claim that shi it heret accus and fabric shi it come saudi arabia wahabi for that matter you read origin work sunni imam imam madhab teacher two imam jafar sadiq sixth imam shi it plenti fals propaganda float shi it esp sinc revolut good work shi it present view and teach school make assumpt and alleg peopl thi group islam gener shi it
alt.atheism	note bobbi articl apr ultb isc rit edu snm ultb isc rit edu mozumd write peopl not relig citi peopl that care for religion lot crime lot murder thi end lack religion that wrong happen live tokyo for year and half and reason intend back indefinit freedom enjoi can walk anywher and mean anywher time dai night and not feel uneasi even ethnic minor clue for bobbi bother tokyo citi and tokyo citi neglig level violent crime and street murder will lead item nation new iii popul almost univers atheist time for stroll beirut night you compar bobbi mozumd cheer simon simon clippingdal simon dc warwick depart comput scienc tel univers warwick fax coventri
alt.atheism	islam clearer view articl bafc dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write dbstu benedikt rosenau subject islam clearer view date tue apr gmt articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write gener accept that rise inquisit reason tortur introduc roman countri end middl ag word holi mother church lead infal holi ghost spread roman cathol church claim lead infal pope that church wick thing xtian and believ alik rational that pope speak cathedra infal base claim dogma pope jesuit origin and not accept mid last centuri benedikt you for enlighten tammi
alt.atheism	cannanit genocid bibl excus for ignor rememb read onc that biblic tribe philistin exist modern dai palestinian info post tammi
alt.atheism	get point reader ask you post list sda church fundament belief warn you long list post sundai sabbath come won read saturdai and don time greatli you touch hope you reast and relax weekend hope tammi
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger wrote precis reject god and leav islam perfectli free muslim and doubt and question exist god long not reject god that rushdi made atheism clear front suffici number proper wit question regard legal issu statu time crime commit gregg you that rushdi left alon and normal life word islam support notion forgiv cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger wrote state parallel thread not anarchist islam anarchist control thi not chang fact that for citizen resid violat islam law thi interest notion and scare case finnish citizen live usa and conform law finnish govern not activ check thi countri word check conform finnish law islam law curs that you world shade cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	object moral polit atheist articl qlf ginn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider wrote type moral you talk natur sens not immor harm anoth speci long doesn advers affect your guess heheh you thi object moral someher tell you that thi not case and you don rule such transcendent game system cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	free moral agenc and kent articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali wrote time ezekiel written israel apostaci and not mistaken tyre make war israel princ tyre human ruler tyre wick man call satan king tyre ezekiel that satan real ruler tyre tammi thi explicitli state bibl you assum that you that ezekiel indirectli mention anoth metaphor for instanc ezekiel mad landlord talk wrote princ tyre interpret mundan ezekiel wrote princ tyre wrote princ tyre cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	sci skeptic religion alt atheism articl psuvm psu edu john johnson psuvm psu edu write standard group sci soc talk conform stricter rule establish and show volum post will ceas exist group reach site usenet alt group post opinion mathew suggest that alt atheism verg garbag post fundi and elev statu standard group and volum such post make unread tend agre start and watch grow root talk religion misc for atheist come forward past trash xian and such stabl core and frankli feel that thi group mainstream lot place and fuck fundi looni freshman will dump find jeesu and warn that hell want real alt fan brother jed and imagin that imbecil tirad will time post selfish find learn lot and isn bad brown and boobi distract that even bring leaven need offset greatli fear that mainstream basic put swamp level conner world regard dew dewei heniz sy net admin risc hardwar pager
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi thi part gregg not understand post give support bounti rushdi life that correct end point gregg concept legal western don accept comment islam law make great deal sens and even make sens person member group religion bind follow wai group bound group requir minimum big bone content that pick that west secular govern that maintain level control and requir requir option group major read thi thread tune note didn agreement idea that you final respons secular govern and that group group person chosen that mind not secular law legal peopl defin term hold person group onc decid separ secular author agre that requir sort contractu etc secular enforc allow group group member past group member religion can and and requir addit duti group member and can enforc fulfil duti wai ostrac common for exampl limit come enforc impos unwant and unaccept onu person conflict secular law thi differ theocraci requir secular author definit congruent religi author theocraci thi not necessarili true religi requir coincid not similiarli religi consequ not coincid secular consequ regard dew dewei heniz sy net admin risc hardwar pager
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bnr rashid write delet fatwa level person rushdi action rushdi that feed situat contribut legitim rule book remain circul not independ will will author and publish fatwa person rushdi encompass action crime crime progress level and plai and plai full view media not thi charg shatim appli rushdi and encompass umbrella fasad rule thi ground firmli islam you claim you expos islam ground for terror plain and simpl whether you not whether rushdi act total jerk not accept civil basi for put fear life for word simpli not matter whether underli motiv find worst insult muslim and belief that you not threaten life for word you you quit simpli admit backruptci your posit you support threaten life for word you not civil thi exactli and peopl depart respect religion belief and encourag interpret kill physic opposit you privledg that whether rushdi bush hussien whover pale civil societi and you can condemn soul refus member your associ interact peacabl demonstr convinc disassoci miscreant short physic forc onc you physic threaten support physic threat you closer your earlier comparison rape you rapist whine ask for dress blame victim you unabl civil doesn fly dew dewei heniz sy net admin risc hardwar pager
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alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write rush leland stanford edu voelkerd write articl apr seachg chrisb seachg chri blask write add thi outrag cost put death special cell block year court cost extra guard and benefit death penalti disappear that your earlier claim that innoc death overrid benefit tragic argument for death penalti war and worri accident kill civilian time determin enemi imperfect win war fortun think folk your good power and deem accept slaughter ten even hundr thousand iraqi order liber oil hkuwait won war hurrah hurrah number civilian iraqi death exagger and exploit for anti war emotion liber new media fact that iraqi di gulf war civilian war compar size thi centuri thi due short durat coupl precis surgic bomb techniqu technic recent idea that hundr thousand iraqi citizen di ludicr not even hundr thousand iraqi soldier di and target you that and alli specif kill and maim iraqi civilian smart bomb didn hit target and target civilian target condus destroi iraq militari potenti militari mission planner not fool hit militari target win war hit civilian target noth unit peopl you not laudabl goal peopl rise tyrant dictat innoc peopl di unarm civilian flee that road didn bomb bit perhap that kid half face burn and girl mangl leg weren guilti worth death innoc save oil hlive kuwaiti peopl isn iraqi not had chanc vote for saddam show accept regim not assassin that surrend and flee open road deviou ploi right bomb case find soldier innoc peopl di blanket bomb don hear you bemoan war never exact scienc smart bomb exact smaller percentag civilian casualti sometim mistak made target misidentifi innoc die that war altern tyrann dictat treat earth big rummag sale grab can wors patrick henri year ago not for give liberti give death war price will pai wish stai free death penalti conceiv deterr crime legal shenanigan that ad automat appeal lengthi court battl etc releg that purpos small part question instat death penalti meant and that deter crime rid reinstat death penalti that shit fair trial and court appeal get justic give polic absolut gun guilti and save ourselv expens lawyer knock benefit never had spend monei clean riot and hold showcas trial cop had allow job properli quick bullet head rodnei king and anoth for cameraman and save great deal unnecessari paperwork and expens polic decid man guilti that fact that death penalti shown not deterr effect imprison that irrelev mathew mathew your sarcasm note you complet base you come sound complet peac nik idiot feel that not your intent iraqi war wrong that appeas work war guess shouldn fought innoc german civilian kill dresden and hamburg poor french di crossfir invad contin hitler europ and you speak german english tyrant hussein stop kind don understand diplomaci understand point gun regret that bush wimp and didn militari roll into baghdad hussein power and iraqi peopl sacrific not mention american di for naught liber kuwait good thing wipe hussein map and for poor poor rodnei king you stop and juri trial brought back verdict not guilti foam mouth for blood policemen look video tape juri look evid evid you and not make judgment benefit trial evid can present side simpli lower level vigilant justic state mind your sarcasm seemingli spoke support case policemen law thi countri intend protect right accus whether crimin cop not found guilti reason doubt guilt and juri posit assess evid and render verdict simpli succumb verbal vigilant regard jim
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl apr andrew nrp andrew norman paterson write don you germani daughter born and don german right vote live right citizen british citizen virtu parentag that not full citizenship for exampl don children british virtu fairli that obtain citizenship make applic for requir immigr germani almost that onc appli for citizenship inevit thi case nope germani extrem restrict citizenship law ethnic german live russia for year automat becom citizen move germani turk gener germani can not good exampl show citizenship descent karl lastli come china hope you touch and you fulfil lifelong ambit your life will drop acid great wall duke pink floyd lie lie even billion peopl
alt.atheism	you will hell fri apr edt jsn psuvm psu edu you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat hmm mst lunch box travel scrabbl and coupl keg bass al set mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write assum that you religi law for follow religion that beg question religion defin follow even offend disagre religi law appli categor belong religion event judg appli thi prevent situat member religion charg claim that not member religion free noth had happen gregg
alt.atheism	anecdot islam articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write brutal system filter lenienc not lenient huh you rate public flog flog chop hand head bodi part stone don problem flog offend chanc chang behavior flog problem maim gener mean opinion not maim anoth maim case rape victim maim physic and emotion wouldn problem maim rapist wouldn problem maim murder you had opinion you muslim you don that rape and murder dealt lightli you interest lenienc for lenienc sake appar that peopl simpli told bad thing and simpl chanc misjudg misjudg avoid suspect that pretti that requir repeat offens that misjudg like orient not place singl charact your ignor expos nice read carefulli not orient show primit machism not us specif word orient your mind contain suffici inform detail not and europ show civil bullshit thi bullshit time put shut you substanti noth and blabber islamist talk west great satan you guilti stupid love compar such line common plea your fellow believ not call each name thi case substanti quran that beat wife into submiss care give chapter and vers discuss primit machism refer that misspelt that fault not orient follow qur you that you haven put islam express extramarit sex extramarit sex subset sex suppressedin islam that marial sexi allow encourag islam branch christian miss point read part urg for sex religion that run tell peopl sex not piec cake for two reason suppress strong urg strong measur and not busi you thought you make argument read opinion argument that you doubt valid premis not chang you want critic time for you put shut thi argument for you don religion that suppress sex such irrelev argument you gener object statement fine respons you reason for your statement that sex not busi religion your argument urg for sex adolesc not strong that overli strong measur requir suppress urg sex strong adult that adult can make commensur effort find marriag partner gregg
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl apr princeton edu qpliu phoenix princeton edu liu write faith gift obedi make faith make obei believ wonder that obedi idea obedi written wholli babbl user guid invis pink unicorn grant faith invis pink unicorn you read babbl and obei written obei written babbl you that grant faith invis pink unicorn that obei written babbl lead believ invis pink unicorn you essenti invis pink unicorn thi bit circular reason beg question make obei believ qpliu princeton edu standard opinion opinion delta correl
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bnr rashid write twelv imam consid incap error sin khomeini support thi view twelv iman thi heresi for reason gave happi discuss issu imam you prefer move discuss anoth newsgroup feel philosophi religion group read thi group benefit know deviant view articul not true view khomeini basic principl islam that muslim reader thi group will simpl basic islam such view face and not contradict basic islam subtl such issu and sect exist islam explicitli proscrib qur topic deepli embed world view islam and esoter teach prophet heresi not enter into for islam exoter religion that nomin concern metaphys substanc man and natur opinion human substanc metaphys fundament that human heret notion and proscrib islam your post you fairli vers sunni thought you seek shi it thought knowledg shi it author that respect due charg heresi level absolut interest discuss thi privat and interest hear make concept error free and sinless human be philosoph consist teach qur prima faci such attemptsa highli suscept degener into monkeri explicitli proscrib qur salaam laikum alaikum wassalam gregg
alt.atheism	koresh god date fri apr mathew mathew manti latest new that koresh will give onc finish write sequel bibl mathew write seal line written page and hand assist for proofread expect decent messiah built spellcheck koresh will come
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict date fri apr gmt umar khan khan itd itd nrl navi mil conclus that impress that holi qur had scienc accur impress that holi qur not rampant error evidenc tradit man centuri arabia not includ holi qur assum had author folk soc religion islam loosen bit and discuss thi topic bank interest topic book subject mention addit you mention hard find stab curios film thi subject pretti weak and two quot us show scienc koran post pretti vagu suspect that book will extrapol aw lot quot poster islam channel misgiv practic koran decid good scienc islam come equival christian creation scienc topic interest find histori scientif interpret koran us koran support earlier scienc sinc discard easi scienc exist todai and interpret passag match find peopl similar thing sai nostradamu time uniqu claim islam and worth check
alt.atheism	keith relativist level unisa edu desert brat write keith you start wafffl for human maul thrown into cage speak you start post tome decent evid retract your absolut moral blurb week ago claim that absolut moral object keith
alt.atheism	polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write perhap chimp that fail evolv cooper behaviour di and left that evolv such behaviour chanc that entir point you proclaim natur moral time organ evolv cooper behaviour natur moral moral that develop natur natur moral bee danc huh keith
alt.atheism	object moral polit atheist sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write type moral you talk natur sens not immor harm anoth speci long doesn advers affect your guess heheh you thi object moral someher tell you that thi not case and you don rule such transcendent game system object system you talk goal brand moral you talk keith
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bnr rashid write articl apr zeu calpoli edu jmunch hertz ele calpoli edu john munch wrote articl apr bnr rashid write not thi charg shatim appli rushdi and encompass umbrella fasad rule defin word shatim and fasad you us apolog shatim refer slander spread slander and li prophet prophet basic prophet dealt busi hawk stolen merchandis sell swampland hous lot florida you hear stori sexual abus prophet and famili victim paid quiet kind will caulmni and curs that word thi explan can come top head and technic definit time never mind that you thi chevel bought thi dude you guess prophet name moham car for two dai tranni kick manni mechan tell load sawdust guess whether moham anywher found don fasad difficult describ thi not technic definit and that liter moham word fasad mean mischief mischief order magnitud word corrupt wrong begin seek escal hurt yeah you moham disord concern harm etc mischief initi caus action wrong specif relat attack god and messeng and mischief corrupt disord etc you slimi mass pond scum result that attack not physic attack and level penalti proscrib depend extent mischief and whether person person sought make hai situat severest punish death yeah you watch your butt you and your buddi allah stereo sold croak two dai your ass grass jim yeah that jim
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist kmr cwru edu keith ryan write spent quit bit time word constitut pick word mean impli intent look dictionari defin word isn thi suffici question found father cruel and unusu punish hang hang slow strangl pain physic and psychological imagin hang quick and imagin painless fire squad note not clean die back dai etc consid cruel your definit allow constitut found father and hang and fire squad allow todai and thing not consid cruel sure medic execut painless not keith
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write spent quit bit time word constitut realis that thi wide held belief america fact claus cruel and unusu punish lot rest lift english bill right word not mean didn spend time word look dictionari defin word isn thi suffici sinc dictionari that lack merci intent inflict injuri grief count cruel peopl can describ cruel thi punish cannot keith
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write religi law appli categor belong religion event judg appli thi categor cheat hillari john law local gop reprehensit extol tradit famili valu
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist articl qnpa inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write hang hang slow strangl pain physic and psychological imagin hang quick and imagin painless thi misnom fire squad note not clean die back dai etc consid cruel your definit allow constitut found father and hang and fire squad allow todai and thing not consid cruel sure medic execut painless not thi show that pain execut not consid cruel and unusu punish thi show that cruel us constitut not refer whether not punish physic pain mean cheat hillari john law local gop reprehensit extol tradit famili valu
alt.atheism	nonexist atheist articl kutluk ccl umist kutluk ccl umist kutluk ozguven write atheist not mention quran quran point view and minut reason can that such thing guess that scientist aren mention stock broker televis repairmen preciou deep brainwash childhood that take progress religion clean substanti part reason neuron don mind don exist jim halat
alt.atheism	anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write delet you don that rape and murder dealt lightli you interest lenienc for lenienc sake appar that peopl simpli told bad thing straw man and you brought lenienc and simpl chanc misjudg misjudg avoid suspect that pretti that requir repeat offens that misjudg like assum that misjudg not correl delet love compar such line common plea your fellow believ not call each name thi case substanti quran that beat wife into submiss care give chapter and vers discuss discuss chapter and vers cite assum that you weren exact you not quran and your consequ shown primit machism refer that misspelt that fault not orient follow qur you that not claim that suffici for argument lot male domin societi that qualifi machist you that situat women sufficeint area orient delet thi argument for you don religion that suppress sex such irrelev argument you gener object statement fine respons you reason for your statement that sex not busi religion your argument urg for sex adolesc not strong that overli strong measur requir suppress urg sex strong adult that adult can make commensur effort find marriag partner you appar troubl read thing you don point sex wish strong desir marriag red her homosexu for you simpli ignor that doesn fit into world you and for situat adolesc your combin lenienc and maim mind whe you that not overli strong measur suppress urg for sex adolesc benedikt
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl apr eagl wesleyan edu kmagnacca eagl wesleyan edu write delet nope germani extrem restrict citizenship law ethnic german live russia for year automat becom citizen move germani turk gener germani can that wrong can benedikt
alt.atheism	satan jon livesei write read paper that qumram text had version text misunderstand read newspap learn thi kind stuff not idea world newspap report notori ignor subject religion and prone exagger interest real stori that bigger headlin back thi point masoret text targum translat commentari arama etc and septuagint ancient greek translat masoret text standard jewish text and essenti not vari place obviou corrupt copi faithfulli copi copi passag past interpret refer targum and septuagint septuagint differ masoret text two particular includ addit text and second passag variant read masoret text addit fix predat corrupt passag emphas that knowledg variat signifc bibl scholar and theolog import dead sea scroll materi add thi ancient copi almost isaiah and fragment size almost book abund materi sign hebrew antecd apocrypha extra text septuagint analysi proceed variat dss text and masoret version tend reflect septuagint isn error differ not signific theolog thi big expect that great theolog surpris lurk materi thi hasn happen dss import almost textual tradit unlik for wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral frank frank dwyer write rai netcom rai fischer write frank frank dwyer write question for you subjectivist relativist nihilist het idea that relativ objectiv degre that relativ accur decript truth objectiv power and abil control event you lose talk truth onc you valu rel accuraci judgement happen agre substanc you below clear that valu object truth falsehood peac war educ ignor thing agre that gener held good thing question whether come close object valu that time anoth each view undesir doubt you even come that univers good bad and refer truth term hypothet realiz full that not even such thing assum for moment that moral rel two relativist can recogn that lock absolut truth and can proce negoti workabl compromis that produc desir result cannot acknowledg front that desir result not exist that mean compromis problem relativist valu common compromis imposs happen happen relativist never compromis plant bomb crowd shop area moral rel valu cannot meaningfulli incorrect true cannot person moral thing notabl lack extremist sens person account justif for social unaccept behaviour invari higher author aka absolut moral truth assum that absolut moral two disagre objectivist can wrong room for compromis onc you beleiv absolut moral you accept that you amor that disagre you amor untru can accept that not truth part object truth moral that flexibl rigid compromis believ you lock moral etc can object realiti claim mechan for quantum collaps shot jfk object truth that cannot object truth interest notion can moral belief that compromis good compromis absolut truth not peopl successfulli suppos hold compromis absolut moral happen insist compromis you compromis compromis choic peac compromis endless content that compromis and agre bloodi pointless speak matter tast your like for peac found like for ic cream for that question and relativ isn almost invari rel thing anoth moral consequ peopl aspect justifi desir action belief justifi commit peac argu that let peopl live long healthi and peac live that true incomplet ignor benefit war kill agress member societi trim popul stimul product equat complex present character rel moral conscienc desir unduli simplifi rai fischer convict danger enemi truth rai netcom li friedrich nietzsch
alt.atheism	islam bank slaveri articl monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write apr bmw mayo edu vdp mayo edu vinayak dutt write call interest deposit you call return invest and call loan you call invest busi that word float stock your compani interest return invest for thing return invest greater risk and not set return amount monei you make can you even lose monei differ risk loss share investor practic risk borrow borrow borrow bank stock you call investor stock banker your choic relabel not make interest free not relabel explain relabel not interest free investor take monei dividend invest ofcours investor islam bank your call bank take risk usual bank get thing back return you heard junk bond vinayak vinayak dutt mail vdp mayo edu standard disclaim appli
alt.atheism	don stink subject articl avinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write you claim you prove cold fusion provid exampl show that trend gener and you provid counterexampl surround mate practic etc don that case disprov gener trend natur moral and mate practic reexamin you that your mind made and you explain differ statist insignific find immor mate relat activ you exclud mate relat activ your natur moral mate practic special case you explain inconsist your theori special case that natur system can object deduc goal speci propog mind not equat two you that object system isn necessarili natur you you not man wrote natur moral system object moral system that anim follow natur system object object system not natur term can not equat natur system subset object you equat read your word sinc homosexu observ anim includ bird and dolphin you claim that anim capac immor don claim that homosexu immor isn harm isn help mate process and you that homosexu observ anim kingdom don you mean bisexu studi releas found that femal seagul lesbian that goal not inher that postul not determin argu that aris natur goal somewhat remov postul assum posit that goal aren inher can creat theori postul that sun revolv earth that moon made green chees and star portion angel that intrud into dimension realiti you such contradict observ appli thi last sentenc your your theori notic your contridict observ can build mathemat proof postul that length side triangl length second side triangl and degre angl connect can determin length side postul that gener found true don your postul valid you don math you abil us sa determin length side triangl fundement geometri guess peopl recept order assum your system you show that your postul work and goal surviv and happi work you don not good goal goal postul goal thi object natur moral system you propos surviv speci homosexu immor kcochran nyx edu tsakc thought post idea respons beer pizza
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral qkq horu mchp sni frank write attempt defin object moral wild guess and freedom object valuabl base thi assumpt that world depriv utterli freedom that act contrari volit almost want complain long you that almost freedom will valuabl thing peopl that you real big lot peopl agre freedom subject valuabl that good and quit nice start point for moral system not univers and not object that assert that freedom not valuabl almost can that bit absurd assert not rain raini dai isn sahara disclaim great young and insan
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl qinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write schneider natur moral specif thought code ethic that speci develop order surviv wait talk ethic moral distinct import thi countless time anim kingdom and such natur system basi for system huh moral system mimic natur number wai describ number wai detail explain contradict that aris order for human thrive live group your problem wrong highlight word don wrong for human surviv for long time wild difficult human social anim and that success defin difficult and order for group function effect sort ethic code thi statement not correct isn don you explain law america state that you drive hand side road and point that speci conduct serv propog not give you your tautolog show that such exampl moral system goal propog speci goal natur system moral live monagam relationship not moral order ensur propog speci man impregn women note earlier lack mate such abstin homosexu isn destruct system worst neutral member speci homosexu thi wouldn destruct surviv speci for that matter herd hors domin stallion mate di kill domin stallion mate case your natur system moral shoot figur foot mate practic reexamin theori reexamin kcochran nyx edu tsakc thought post idea respons beer pizza
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl ursa bear halat pooh bear jim halat write articl qjd nlv horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write firstli scienc basi valu not round you explain object atom and subject valu atom not object aren even real scientist call atom noth mathemat model that describ physic observ properti surround subject rest delet you liber art major weren tcha guess you never that photo smallest logo world ibm made nobl ga atom krypton xenon forget specif atom tree electron independ observ and verifi moral aren differ tep men love brown tend warm and deep sensit and desir partner sex hour dai thing snuggl fire walk rain catch snowflak tongu real turn lover brown becka
alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist jbrown batman bmd trw write apr batman bmd trw respond dave offici nicknam fuller death penalti deterr dave person execut will never commit crime guarante that mean that effect anti recidiv measur not that deter individu commit capit crime place true question whether threat death like stop murder commit treason capit crime anywher usa that death penalti introduct deter crimin commit crime doubt thi step even strong deterr short complet deterr reject for case innoc execut and even elimin thi possibl reject death penalti immor thi make radic issu oppon captial punish agre find innoc execut strongest argument make magic charg facilit state aid suicid for crimin life sentenc thi replac for capit punish don want live rest live jail thi option scott sauyet ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu write societi good reason for rape and murder consist posit and hold that wrong basi moral not societ norm current legal basi surpris surpris bibl and inher moral abhorr exactli inher abhorr and you effect thing repuls and bunch peopl agre deem absolut immor and forev period and nice extent agre you not agre that thing inher absolut immor label immor each for good reason and reason can even theoret chang can label that vagu and top head defend that human similarli made that fall into trap creation doesn human extent similar belong speci that that speci evolv anoth stori altogeth extent evolut can even lend credenc moral absolut flavour argument that exhibit trust good love respect courag and honesti societi deceipt hatr disrespect coward and dishonesti you moral societi aliv and kick point societi not alik and moral haven and thesi don sinc hold that creat similarli similar ident that make unfalsifi thesi and work can and punt fellow theist falsifi find someo creat that real world disclaim great young and insan
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl qla afp fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write hope islam bank bcci rip small depositor muslim commun and grow childish propagandist gregg point that practic thing aren quit wonder utopia you folk claim upset you you such thing bbci exampl islam own and oper bank will bet weren real islam owner and oper islam bank bank oper rule islam regard bank thi explicitli bank thi not case bcci and naiv depositor put life save into bcci nasti interest motiv western bank street thi crap bcci motiv motiv intern bank perhap emphasi deal outlaw and intellig servic govern don con into think that will work time back childish propaganda you life wast bandwith such empti type thousand islam bank oper world hear you want talk corrupt bank can talk peopl rob american bank gregg
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl qlb oinn shellei washington edu jimh carson washington edu jame hogan write come sens and accept know wisdom and power quran and allah not that allah drop congratul wise choic allah roll bone and allah get crisco bend and invit spin block wow realiz that allah for commit readi for man program gotta call you think renounc islam loyalti jim you read russel hoban hemingwai imit imit bad aspect write hoban doubt gregg
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write qlapk morrow stanford edu salem pangea stanford edu bruce salem write articl jrde new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write theori creation theistic view theori creation state genesi begin god creat heaven and earth wonder alittl imagin think huh imagin think that world exist forev and never creat and endless suppli energi and spontan gener life life that make wise and know and imagin theori warren kurt vonroeschlaub iastat edu iowa state univers math depart carver hall am
alt.atheism	you will hell jsn psuvm psu edu jsn psuvm psu edu write care fellow wrote mean psuvm possibl import dispers smilei longer offend disclaim great young and insan
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write not allow leav domain author free leav islam regard islam law curs leav islam death cheat hillari john law local gop reprehensit extol tradit famili valu
alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist articl apr daffi wisc edu mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write you exager point libel gave unpopular reason deliber you that iraq absorb kuwait make tire poland comparison you heard principl apli never plai chamberlain and roll anoth countri invad that invit invas perhap not support genocidist provid weapon system tactic support technolog etc made suddam hussein bush call alli and freind cheat hillari john law local gop reprehensit extol tradit famili valu
alt.atheism	you will hell articl tan psuvm psu edu andrew newel tan psuvm psu edu write articl jsn psuvm psu edu jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat reader group conveni that doesn real name start letter sysadmin real name jeremi scott noonan vmoper psuvm psu edu author email postmast psuvm bitnet rfowl wveriti sy admin node idea oper benedikt
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi anecdot islam articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write delet central aspect islam show merci and give wrong even presum rushdi violat islam law and commit crime thi basi for post lenienc not penetr benedikt skull you demand harsh punish crime repeat offend slip justif harsh punish typic religi doublespeak whenev you contradictori statement you choos possibl that suit your current argument disgust that idea that make theodor kkkaldi feel cozi can protect religion gregg you kill idolat benedikt
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict genocid caus atheism articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write and god almighti creat night and dai and sun and earth celeti bodi swim each round holi quran hmm thi agre ptolem system earth centr planet orbit round copernicu and gallileo wrong you haven read carefulli you you will that doesn circl not move circl evid that round gener sens wishi washi statement not scientif benedikt
alt.atheism	wholli babbl free moral agenc articl psilink robert knowl psilink write delet book subgeniu and that collect write ftp site benedikt
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comp.graphics	rumour articl apr rchland ibm ricardo hernandez muchado ricardo rchland vnet ibm write and cpu doesn understand supposedli variat run mhz thi speed you sprite wow interest hand fact that motorola not releas supposedli lineup ricardo anim playback lawrenc refer earlier post plain quicktim compact video codec digit video appl earli commerci precis run centri fp nice bit color depth expect that algorithm risc processor approach full screen full motion anim you impli processor will tax highli dynam materi sean mcmain check gopher phone univers north texa band info server fax box seanmac ac unt edu mail denton mcmain unt edu
comp.graphics	xga info info xga chipset func truecolor resolut board xga rainer rainer leberl rleberl sparc cstp umkc edu univers kansa citi mail clinton whitehous gov subject
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comp.graphics	vga mode routin made vga mode graphic librari ftp origin wrote routin kind exercis for perhap will find useabl miss higher level function intend intro mode program start point librari assum processor trivial modifi for peopl make mod and post version routin written assembl tasm and callabl fairli simpl found fast for purpos routin includ enter and exit mode defin virtual screen put and pixel put pixmap rectangular imag transpar spot put sprite imag area copi area virtual screen into video memori etc includ simpl routin draw line routin load color gif imag into buffer wrote quick dirti demo program that bounc bunch sprite window packag spang camosun pub do vgl zip zip pkzip complet public domain concern you nice credit due and mail tell you you don don bother mark morlei camosun
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