alt.atheism	bibl quiz answer articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write cheribum ark coven god make graven imag refer idol creat worship ark coven wasn wrodhip and high priest enter holi holi onc year dai aton not familiar knowledg origin languag word for idol and that translat us word idol graven imag had origin idol you wrong suggest determin whether interpret you offer correct dean kaflowitz
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost articl timmbak mcl timmbak mcl ucsb edu clam bake timmon write fallaci atheism faith hear faq beckon onc wonder rule delet you correct you didn conspiraci correct hard atheism faith rule don mix appl orang can you that extermin mongol wors stalin khan conquer peopl unsympathet that atroci stalin kill million peopl love and worship and atheist state can wors that will not explain thi you stalin noth name atheism wheth not atheist irrelev grip man stalin exampl brought not indict atheism anoth exampl peopl will kill name that fit for occas you never implic pretti clear can respond your word not your true mean usenet slipperi medium delet wrt burden proof hard atheism noth prove justifi that god not exist faq etc guess justif compel aren peopl flock hard atheism not and won for will discourag peopl hard atheism point sourc reliabl statement hard atheism not support dogmat posit fool that larg group peopl that atheist peopl exist proselyt fashion religion hard atheist you post not hard second make you defend religion recogn hard atheism for faith never meant understand you that idea bibl exampl allegori illustr point and refer reader post evid that poster state that reli evid for lost thi thread theist arrog delet such and such absolut unalter true dogma true not prepar issu blanket statement indict theist arrog you wont atheist bzzt virtu your innoc pronoun you issu blanket statement will apolog qualifi origin statement hard atheist place atheist you call john baptist arrog boast greater that christian todai that arrog guilti charg meant theist arrog thi that thought mean clear posit that claim superior anoth support evid arrog for your apolog btw not worthi misinform your sophist put theist your misinform shine explain bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write bennett neil bcci adapt koran rule bank time august gui write piec titl that impli case that gregg you haven provid even titl articl support your content thi you support posit you intend respect gregg question and even manag includ refer head firmli engag ass your excus thi support noth reason that thi piec anoth anti islam slander job you reason anti islam slander job apart your prejudic respect for titl for real content can thi articl want true can you bcci not islam bank mere report time state that bcci islam bank rule gregg islam good and bcci bad bcci cannot islam spread slander propaganda discuss issu glad real discuss provid refer etc provid refer articl you agre you will respond refer articl you agre mmm that intellectu stimul debat doubtless that you spend your time soc cultur islam special place for you kill file bobbi want join you post becom convinc that simpli wast time and reason moslem that you hope achiev mathew
alt.atheism	christian moral articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write not believ god not concern disposit beneath provid evid requir evid that person thi god find compel fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you respons you love god and step promis for you you for doubt thi disput not givin sincer effort simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic abil reason spec creation ultim you reli simpli your reason you will never you learn you accept that you don
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl rusnew manti mathew manti mathew write mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write articl ursa bear halat pooh bear jim halat write atom not object aren even real scientist call atom noth mathemat model that describ physic observ properti surround subject thi deserv frame atom aren even real atom electron microscop atom figment imagin evid that atom real overwhelm won bother evid moment studi cell biologi that can electron microscop real laughabl statement stuff delet you thought twilight zone for moment amaz that peopl scienc background confus model and observ even call real world jim halat articl ursa bear halat panther bear jim halat write articl apr princeton edu datepp phoenix princeton edu david aaron tepper write you liber art major weren tcha guess you never that photo smallest logo world ibm made nobl ga atom krypton xenon forget specif atom tree electron independ observ and verifi moral aren differ for record not that kind inform like affect your think msee focu electromagnet penn photo smallest logo world not atom make observ can measur that match mathemat model call atom had predict that particl model and wave model for light atom model mathemat represent physic phenomena model that can and will continu chang time that make subject model that model object talk physic world put anoth quantum mechan model atom for discuss atom that will give repeat and unambigu result object bohr and einstein duke mid centuri interpret reapeat observ measur quit subject bohr that observ random atom motion inher natur univers einstein particl motion determinist measur shortcom that introduc random talk exact result jim halat
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write li hypocrisi dude atheism take faith theism admit peopl take faith atheist faith kind faith that great invis pink unicorn not exist kind faith that santa clau not exist and for peopl suppos isn big leap faith that thing and god exist suppos depend your notion and definit faith not believ god mean doesn deal extra baggag that come thi leav person feel wonderfulli free beaten head for year agre that religion and belief import psycholog healer for peopl and for that reason import forc psycholog fantasi don mean that bad that isn interest extrem rude believ santa clau and that belief santa wonder thing for life make person allow live guilt etc and you santa cuz for you call men white coat you phone bake timmon iii nanci babbl you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu spring natur parti
alt.atheism	southern baptist convent freemasonri southern baptist convent conven thi june charg that freemasonri incompat christian thought quot jame holli anti mason flag carrier amus you passag exact quot southern baptist convent and freemasonri jame holli presid mission and ministri men inc beaumont insid cover book state mission ministri men inc herebi grant permiss for reproduct part thi booklet two provis materi not chang and two sourc identifi provis freemasonri alli devil page issu not moder conserv issu god and devil page worthwhil rememb that formul public school educ america freemason page jesu christ never command toler motiv for discipl and toler antithesi christian messag page central dynam freemason drive for world uniti fratern liberti and equal toler thi write great writer freemasonri page jesu christ establish sectarian faith page for narrow and sectarian equal lord jesu christ page interest toler and cousin liberti equal and fratern subtlest li father li page southern baptist convent church found lodg and corner stone dedic lodg each church hold public ceremoni repent and prai blood and name lord jesu christ church and renounc oath dedic church and build page toni
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost articl madhausc rfqo netcom madhau netcom maddi hausmann write clam bake timmon bill shit stirrer connor gotta disagre you thi maddi not resembl bill nicknam prefer half bake timmon bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	request articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write bob you want excus convert christian you gonna damn and hope bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	thought christian articl sandvik sandvik kent appl sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write you can physic problem passiv christian unlik smoke not that hard avoid christian todai ignor keith err kent whadda you mean you didn smilei bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	shit shovel amus atheist and articl qvn pinnj shellei washington edu jimh carson washington edu jame hogan write bill conner and bobbi post felt that passiv aggress knock that chip shoulder type approach meant that attempt reason argument wast that primit respons teas bronx cheer sarcasm somewhat satisfi apolog think bobbi perform artist feed pointless circular round hominem name call wit precis posit newbi point point approach debat type wast time and lifespan ignor not option sinc don and leav larg stretch complet anonym thi group left healthi flame occass appear caustic boob bobbi type wast breath argu ration process involv excretori system and stand record recogn peopl long rest group thi timmon charact store for bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak write articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write not believ god not concern disposit beneath provid evid requir evid that person thi god find compel fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you don expect love don even exist secondli wouldn expect love simpli creator expect earn that love respons you love god and step promis for you you for you daft love don exist come back you learn love your testicl doubt thi disput not givin sincer effort simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic abil reason spec creation ultim you reli simpli your reason you will never you learn you accept that you don point you step line and becom complet asshol even your offens won slip becuas heard goddamn time you love jesu deep your heart you cannibalist necrophiliac and qualifi assess your motiv you fortun thing accept evid faith that christian quit fuck arrog will never peac you made that bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	theism and fanat islam genocid articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write theism strongli correl irrat belief absolut irrat belief absolut strongli correl fanat correl not causat and belief that absolut exist not thing belief absolut belief shortest rout thurl clonmel thing knowledg irish roadsystem correl not necessarili causat you notic conclud that correl religion and fanat base common featur religi belief for long quot dont cut huh you bark mad theism not strongli correl fanatic you you find stronger correl you interest truth you bigot theism correl fanatic that fanat caus theism that theism lead fanat point theism increas chanc fanat argu that fanat tend theism for exampl loook time histori theism domin ideolog invalid that conclus that that basic mechan imo influenc stalin for that matter ayn rand invalid your assumpt that theism factor consid gullibl blind obedi author lack sceptic and reliabl indic and danger peopl sourc fanatic thing cynic manipul gullibl precis brand theism and precis theist tend fanatic grant you tar theist thi brush bigotri not reason argument and read warm for censorship and restrict religi freedom read anim farm defin irrat belief ration that reason irrat belief belief that not base reason discuss for long time charlei wingat point that belief violat reason and anoth that process that not lend ration analysi not reliabl inform glare paradox argument that reason base reason circular and argument not base reason irrat part second statement contain inform you don belief belief strong theism and strong atheism your statement not gener true second part your sentenc patent fals counterexampl axiomat datum not lend ration analysi assum reliabl inform process us obtain compar evid theist for claim strength demand make thing not irrat antir can agre thi you specif theism that theism necessarili antir requir proof suspect you not affin fanat easili true noth work hypothesi belief work hypothesi don understand thi can you formalis your argument frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	you will hell decai cbnewsj att dean kaflowitz write articl portal videocart dfuller portal videocart dave fuller write jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat you mean prepar surround thumper proven hellish and not even dead prepar big beach umbrella gel pack ic thing big coleman cooler load miller draft miller draft sue pair balanc sneaker soni watchman and coupl carton bonton cheddar chees popcorn stuff delet you ton weapon and ammunit follow and hole kind compound and wait for alan deguzman calvin smart almost scari guess calculu mathematica child progeni disclaim univers can afford opinion hobb children
alt.atheism	you will hell articl portal videocart dfuller portal videocart dave fuller write jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat you mean prepar surround thumper proven hellish and not even dead prepar big beach umbrella gel pack ic thing big coleman cooler load miller draft miller draft sue pair balanc sneaker soni watchman and coupl carton bonton cheddar chees popcorn haven decid wear wear etern damnat dean kaflowitz
alt.atheism	shit shovel amus atheist and articl timmbak mcl timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write jame hogan write fine sentiment post jim assum attack hominem sarcast innuendo shit shovel conveni forget thi and whine boredom hominem sarcast innuendo absolut forgotten bore not not confus life life can overcom urg teas taunt folk bound faq such chip shoulder listen you belong church patienc question your post line line content basi hard impact that had compar shovel fact interest end thread wouldn post last shit shovel lament that initi satisfact past point circular abus heap that bake timmon iii noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski sincer question you you for jim
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior qvh tinnsg citat ksu ksu edu yohan citat ksu ksu edu jonathan newton write articl qgm new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write question for basi moral moral ethic behavior societ accept behavior disagre societi think irrelev individu decid that import thi doesn want kill you can that decid societi thi fairli obviou not societi mandat societi disagre mandat societ mandat make standard for moral defin accept gener feel idiot polici can basi admit ti loos feel that intuit thing wrong hard defend legal moral posit think for ourselv agre action legal not make moral mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu can explain chesterton
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior guess delv into religi languag area exactli moral moral never thought eat meat moral immor differenti not person choic prefer and not immor fall basi moral consensu posit fall make you brought societ mandat control time make mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu can explain chesterton
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak write not believ god not concern disposit beneath provid evid requir evid that person thi god find compel fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you not differ believ that god exist and love for instanc satan believ god exist not love unbeliev request situat thi that god provid evid compel exist not compel love dai christma truelov serv leftov turkei second dai christma truelov serv turkei casserol that made leftov turkei dai delet flame turkei wing pizza hut commerci and tlu gic bait ken arromde arromde jyusenky jhu edu
alt.atheism	gulf war and peac nik articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write hawaii liber spain you you hit thi hawaii independ countri coup american led request annex refus eventu annex year spanish american war dai christma truelov serv leftov turkei second dai christma truelov serv turkei casserol that made leftov turkei dai delet flame turkei wing pizza hut commerci and tlu gic bait ken arromde arromde jyusenky jhu edu
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak write fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you bullshit not delus and wish think not option love obei that reason respons you love god and step promis for you you for doubt thi disput not givin sincer effort bullshit assur you misguid youth made sincer effort pain ration person rais christian home stori you choos not experi contradict your smug theori bill mayn
alt.atheism	societ basi for moral apr cnsvax uwec edu nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye write repli cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb moral come societ accept follow that expect follow notion societ mandat moral pardon extrem couldn murder your brother and that exercis right felt good didn want forc moral don follow your moral that moral subject each person entitl moral attitud mine not priori correct els thi not mean that judg anoth basi moral standard entitl moral sens tell rest societi entitl pass law spell punish for behavior that offens major make can forc moral can want decid disagre crimin not behavior moral realiz that immor and not care not moral system immor good point immor opinion don choos make decis that action wrong for for lai claim altern moral system sincer belief and intern consist sociopath lack innat moral sens admit lean idea innat moral sens basi for can such concept extend and incap behav moral hitler believ that action moral judg immor standard you mean that wrong for such thing not behav moral ey and chose basi condemn societi buzz word idea that action wrong for human societi hold that moral subject not mean that excus murder not object suddenli david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu can explain chesterton
alt.atheism	nicknam articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu scott sauyet write scott can hear sauyet ssauyet eagel wesleyan edu you speak can hear you sole intent learn fly
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl pxq darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write dean kaflowitz decai cbnewsj att wrote interest origin notion you discuss moral free agenc that can god punish person for not believ that person natur and not for that person deni reason tell that god dean you let atheist mytholog great start realiz immedi that you not interest discuss and thump your babbl prefer answer heali reason and reason approach thing aren you creationist gui made lot silli statement evolut time ago confus you issu divin justic fundament doctrin christian man sin that time entir human race and punish mete necessarili affect entir race sole represent human come race speci share that judgement noth deserv perspect god human categori creat thing and that categori condemn duh gee talk christian mytholog hope discuss reason logic person you for your side repetit bore mytholog thousand time delet rest your remark spot that approach answer repetit uninterest doctrin and thought congratul you bill you wouldn logic argument bit you ball such persist lack function face repeat attempt assist you learn thi forum and past speak talent that meager abil don that capac for ignor influenc dean kaflowitz
alt.atheism	moral constant biblic rape last respons thi thread fell into bit bucket and vanish appear local repost sinc feel slight appear ignor post convers thread don want rob sinc thi date don feel compel respond articl apr watson ibm strom watson ibm rob strom write make two separ point attack face bibl interpret judg bibl todai you judg base us todai that comment rabbi teach etc suspect you meant thi context jewish tradit you refer problem highli interpret tradit thi happen schism occur and time larg and influenti branch heret group come favor exactli face interpret judg bibl origin written you read context time not todai assumpt and compar practic surround peopl context time import judgment ultim current understand base standard rel stabil success societi thi true compar practic surround peopl for instanc bibl surround peopl immor savag repuls and inhuman habit peopl for instanc worship singl god presenc symbol strongest tent templ multipl god presenc symbol repres statu bibl term idolatri inher evil evid that follow religion area and time bad peopl rel peopl bibl scissor and cloth past ancestor cut cloth scissor knew that inhuman neighbor cut bare teeth thi rel enlighten step forward earlier barbar and made transit modern civil paper cut that easier sound good presuppos teeth rend neighbor support for can argu that post facto assert inhuman neighbor can us make moral point that doesn mean that actual neighbor inhuman point such dehuman peopl across river mountain even peopl dwell common that complex and benign moral tradit evolv base mythic interpret that histori interest don fair that long tradit interpret and us attack condemn origin histori note that speak histor interpret for instanc claim that hammurabi ey for ey primit brutal retribut mose version enlighten benign fine tradit sinc interpret phrase that year ago meant thing argu parochi perspect belong thi tini tribe struggl overwhelm odd for surviv distinct tribe and thi book book tribe book command dedic ourselv studi improv world and set exampl light nation rever book and success scientist artist and musician leader import humanitarian hard for separ success peopl virtu book you argu that significantli book book that anoth tribe book book significantli don belittl accomplish intellectu jewish peopl analog sinc don tribe that similar closest can romani don make meaning comparison tradit reflect studi flexibl dogmat interpret good thing that such attitud case made that you start captain america comic babylonian equival jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	satan vers onc thi post delai for week fall softwar crack articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write promis rafiq zakaria discuss natur call satan vers rushdi titl rafiq zakaria muhammad and quran penguin follow introduct controversi incid and apologet explan purport show couldn happen histor episod doesn matter follow don whether quot gregg zakaria below back current affair rushdi admiss drawn version orientalist watt thi incid not rushdi watt dug stori myth you will umar khan muslim school boi and girl and rushdi and gibreel farishta and allow imagin run wild thi write fiction rushdi write crisi faith and chose thi myth present place actor gibreel role angel name rushdi not write histori theologi book and claim impli that thi happen somewhat stori woven relationship jesu and reform prostitut mari magdalen anoth myth refer arthurian mytho grail legend wander jew dozen you can stand read work blasphem salman rushdi children book haroun and sea stori for idea storytel specif storytel work exist stori line ridicul muhammad integr muhammad mahound integr not impugn thi part stori and reason thi rushdi intent gibreel archangel produc vers divin and satan doesn proven not impli straight read that muhammad influenc not voic never such word classi speaker never never will thi isn voic voic mahound ey open wide kind vision stare that gibreel rememb lip move move don can nevertheless come mouth throat past teeth word god postman fun yaar butbutbut god isn thi pictur god postman ambigu mahound manipul gibreel satan answer not question rais thi explor faith and role revel religion thing address loss faith implicitli rais question truth revel thi propos answer not directli exist newsgroup name alt atheism rais question forcefulli and propos answer real relev rushdi mild fiction explor filth and li and ask for fatwa list that rhetor question jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	apostl tortur anoth articl that fell crack articl qiu innpq srvr engin umich edu ingl engin umich edu rai ingl write evid for resurrect claim that discipl tortur death for belief and not renounc claim that jesu had come back dead skim act and such and found refer thi happen stephen thi appar wide held belief come evid bibl evid bibl haven found briefli widespread folklor good documentari evid even solid rumor death apostl usual context such argument you observ martyr for lie willing peopl die recant evid for truth belief thi add quit stronger twist that propos martyr offer chanc life recant sinc don even di don thi inform even case stephen not clear that save recant willing true believ die for belief jesu jim jone document martyrdom and king for biblic account martyrdom priest baal jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan vers anoth rescu bit bucket year furor thi book discuss and net gener discuss come content hand that tsv contain such blood libel islam merit not death ban and sort punish and that rushdi muslim western countri had write and publish chose whether muslim find offens fear persecut death natur inclin posit find interest posit thi fine book incident concern islam and damn can find malevol offens year made thi point primarili muslim poster respond that read book and had call such thing filth and li rank rushdi book hitler mein kempf wors and comment gener and attempt follow request explan for specif offens met stoni silenc gener inaccur context refer book lead that read correct and attempt discuss text context sinc thi line discuss rest readership read thi book your thought jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	moral constant biblic rape thi respons origin fell into bit bucket repost bill doesn ignor articl jxd darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write jim perri perri dsinc wrote stuff biblic moral bill quot had bill busi and get thi appar you fundament confus atheism address famou faq your gener misplac atheism needn impli materi lack absolut moral system tend materi and don absolut moral answer your question can atheist judg atheist judg that theist person understand moral that don absolut doesn mean that don explicit line post you that express judgment moral issu base judgment code claim that absolut sens good bad moral code not that christian muslim atheist that object genocid not express line societi hold your moral exist and form answer mechanist your tast that moral code prerequisit for function societi and that human evolv moral part evolut abil exist larg societi therebi achiev consider surviv advantag you that god made rule can convinc share common understand moral issu you you your religion and you earli childhood teach that you don god told peopl noth god god command that electr event your nervou system that creat emot state that your mind coupl pre exist thought set form that reaction you read wrong sort comic book pry gobbledygook basic agre you that mental reaction stimuli such god command genocid canaanit mechanist that true you reaction whether god exist even whether god exist command genocid not good supposedli attribut god thi you exclud discuss valu wrong goood evil etc and cannot particip your opinion bibl can weight whatsoev hmm heavi faq read you good place discuss valu etc person fact can accomplish such discuss frame question term reason for instanc clear that environ neighbor tribe period attempt wipe each base imagin divin command qualiti life will gener poor system that foster coexist superior qualiti life agre goal absolutist hand can thump portion bibl happen agre and thi good even act question unequivoc bad standard discuss attempt defin group peopl exclud discuss such that cannot particip and opinion weight whatsoev lowest form reason hominem poison and resort can ration defend idea wrong and bibl jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	origin bibl articl apr nott eczcaw mip nott wainwright write argument origin bibl theist acquaint state that thousand bibl discov point time syllabl perfect thi meant that copi time time quot acquaintac approxim year death jesu you can your friend that publish warehous time and thousand copi joi cook and syllabl perfect sinc sold and becom follow joi cook incid mention convinc onc and for that joi cook inspir god and true path glori dean kaflowitz sauc you
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost articl qsum inng shellei washington edu jimh carson washington edu jame hogan write you miss point alt atheism for instanc expon base anagram fulli extend translat dig tunnel deep store grain prepar for come struggl you doubt recogn thi quot chairman mao you admit that atheist lot sleev you suspect agnost will gulag mao atheist order put red book that green jim god dead and actor plai part sting word fear will find place your heart histori voic reason faith curs will teach freedom past thing can wors noth
alt.atheism	christian moral dan schaertel dp nasa kodak wrote sinc thi alt atheism hope you don mind strongli disagre fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you respons you love god and step promis for you you for knock and open you dan didn thi work firmli believ god for year eventu realis delud fear face truth ultim reason believ fear hell mental state had sillili attribut divin forc devil attempt destroi faith noth imagin and easi achiev mental state will faith learn fear disguis doubt thi disput not givin sincer effort god demand dan believ for year sincer effort equival activ suspens disbelief case quit god not faith can concern god moral and mental health want revel guidanc can feel creat didn make task easier suppos love refus commun point etern tortur for can love god love seduc simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic abil reason spec creation ultim you reli simpli your reason you will never you your argument type you onc you atheist sincer and believ for year eventu honest admit that had live virtual realiti reason can us don spiritu mean christian refer conscienc disagre bibl don even soul fulli depend bodi thi bodi flame ident god can entertain copi learn you accept that you don thi mean learn you accept that you don learn you accept don thi not prefer learn unwis swallow you read suppos write book tell great invis pink unicorn help daili problem you accept thi sinc you can whether true not note that gipu omnipot omnipres and love and guid writer thi planet you and and not peopl write legendari stori year ago your god aspect and presenc petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	gulf war sell arm articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write parallel thread definit bomb etc delet aaaahhh innoc kill concentr camp hmm schedul enter concentr camp had not shut captur alli hmm civilian di that war matter you civilian die proper don sell bastard arm and inform place ruthlessli hunt posit power mathew agre thi crux your posit isn that shouldn support hussein and sold arm fight iran agre and agre ruthlessli hunt sell arm hussein and deal invad kuwait sit back and sold arm suppos us bad for kuwait sit back and let thing not correct mistak destroi hussein militari potenti move agre your statement reagan and bush made grave error judgment sell arm hussein not gulf war you abhor and west shortsighted sell arm hussein ultim made war inevit agre delet mathew regard jim
alt.atheism	studi book mormon that transcedent temptat paul kurtz good section origin mormon you want scott
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost articl timmbak mcl timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon subject amus atheist and agnost date apr gmt big delet atheist show poor understand human natur peopl sympath shake head disbelief such childish rant anoth string idiot gener gad surpris thi post guess name crt phil trodwel thi space happi ram goddam volt cattl for rent prod into that tub you not cheap thi radio hunter thompson
alt.atheism	perhap prophet that week appear and can claim activ timer new softwar get bit rot and ship outgo articl into deep hole repost articl innf senat bedfellow mit edu tcbruno athena mit edu tom bruno write bring point post peopl alt atheism sinc damnedest stai top newsgroup you fall you fall dai you don fall last mondai admittedli long weekend had messag dai hiatu chang job last fall sinc delug inquir mind want track infam poster alt atheism end onc leav newsgroup curiou guess hell norwai rubber room funni farm seminari not jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	strong weak atheism that faq modifi defin strong atheist not assert nonexist god assert that nonexist god thread thi earlier didn outcom adam nicknam cooper adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	faith and dogma articl apr edt neat toronto edu tgk toronto edu todd kellei write light happen waco chest sadli understand faith and dogma danger religion inher encourag implement faith and dogma and for that reason scorn religion fair you qualifi thi semit western religion you basic ahead and thi express thi notion past christian debat whether christian leav room for reason claim ration quell christian faith and dogma thi evalu person level for exampl jesu and didn that thing and seemingli billion and billion christian sect arisen perhap that total dedic ration and believ christ pantheism bibl amaz peopl come guis person interpret philosoph cannot christian philosoph can chang mind christian cannot due natur faith and dogma present religion thi good point quintessenti christian set system valu belief for work and event experi understand and deablabl framework thi system individu inabl not difficulti chang import problem such system system cannot open mind point test hypothes basic premis system destroi faith invest test fail word fairer test and evalu moral bia respons lose retain system claim that christian philosoph not christian person belief moment correspond christian that person visit guard prison not prison you defin prison simpli prison can defin prison moment prison can defin christian moment christian belief person free not prison similarli person not constrain faith and dogma not christian interest basic boil individu nuanc not will admit and mass orient divis appal becom irrelev admit word game dictionari definit religion religion concern exist visibl world differenti philosophi that oper faith intuit reason webster word game don claim that religion genocid that human atheist genocid will human don will human don real differ and peopl color skin languag belief grant religion gun that doesn kill religion encourag faith and dogma and doesn directli condemn peopl encourag us think think that kill peopl case peopl becom bullet and religion gun offer adequ harm bold extend your simili religion good qualiti encourag benevol and philanthropi bad thing faith dogma and tradit put good thing care reason and scienc result secular human wouldn nice secular humanist supernaturalist you even leav god secular emphasi supernaturalist start think and realiz that belief god doesn put ahead understand univers poke fun supernaturalist understand not human capabl thought and genocid and even mass suicid not will bet that todd todd kellei tgk toronto edu depart comput scienc univers toronto regard adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl mvo blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write read thi group benefit know deviant view articul not true view khomeini basic principl islam point view atheist you claim khomeini wasn practic true islam that you member group suppos you two true muslim thi good point made clear claim that khomeini advoc view contradit qur and argument for thi thi that can check suffici interest khomeini dead can respond anoth poster support khomeini respond obfuscationist sophistri thi quit clear atheist suscept religionist mode obfuscation answer your question you can judg learn islam that read qur and understand basic principl onc thi rel easi principl islam and act odd islam khomeini attribut superhuman statu twelv muslim histor leader varianc basic principl islam that human metaphys human and sens closer god metaphys natur gregg
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write thi support noth reason that thi piec anoth anti islam slander job respect for titl for real content can thi articl want true can you bcci not islam bank spend time respond propaganda respond thi sub thread don feel deep make statement effect that propaganda fals discuss issu glad real discuss provid refer etc you admit that thi thorough argument support proposit your propganda hope you can not find thi argument compel you want refut point poster repli quit busi and don time respond full scholarli form accus that flippantli made antagonist and you consid that perhap peopl that not spread propaganda consid spread falsehood ignor spread falsehood falsehood gener not come produc peopl that not truth such spread falsehood propaganda level not posit sinc noth situat that not estim qualifi head ass bob never accus you your head your ass take quit time deal accus head ass accus origin poster benedikt impair cheer gregg
alt.atheism	apostl tortur willing true believ die for belief jesu jim jone document martyrdom and depth belief religion delud believ and con men differ will follow belief hand even second hand knowledg origin apostl di began myth hope exploit for profit and that myth death that inconsist real con men bail obviou lead discomfort pain and death stori king prophet baal thi debat can easili assum that believ that overwhelm vindic elijah forthcom simpli fool shown fire heaven swift and seizur and death equal swift
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl unix portal danb shell portal dan babcock write articl mvo blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write read thi group benefit know deviant view articul not true view khomeini basic principl islam point view atheist you claim khomeini wasn practic true islam that you member group suppos you two true muslim easi read koran koran perfect possibl disagr smili thi isn suppos post hand suppos motiv appar idea poke fun religion sort reason argument thi statement worthless presum qur perfect religi text that plenti room for disagr implic for issu essenti respond question judgment made two peopl fact disagre islam doesn presum qur suffici clariti for import disput basic principl islam thi constitut claim that two peopl disagr issu relev islam gregg
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior articl qgm new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb subject societ accept behavior date mon apr gmt question for basi moral moral ethic behavior societ accept behavior societi defin accept legal moral posit mac wow you think thi interest question that recent move societi classifi previous social unaccept legal activ past two coexist method social control and explicit legal control that set action defin illeg and specif defin set punish secondli and somewhat hidden social control action consid social unaccept and not cover legal control scrictli control social censur ideal social work legal control need sinc peopl voluntarilli control action due pressur social censur control manifest dai dai life guilt and moral heard and fulli that weren for vast major peopl polic legal control absolut imposs last year move attempt dissengag individu societ control ain illeg don pick not thi wrong that byproduct societi high educ level high exposur altern idea popular media high level institution individu right and orient cultur guess that state transit western world that idea can can peopl base person squeamish fulli bent maxim individu freedom max long freedom don imping anoth imho societi persu two mutual exclus end and persu individu right satisfi territori and domin instinct remov social inher fear base ignor will result continu destabil societi quick fix idea can ourselv thi mess never consent roll back person freedom order stabil societi develop societi follow darwinian process select for stabil can find social model maxim indiv freed stabl perhap live stabl societi comment answer question don want phil trodwel thi space happi ram goddam volt cattl for rent prod into that tub you not cheap thi radio hunter thompson
alt.atheism	gulf war death penalti polit atheist articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write don sell bastard arm and inform place ruthlessli hunt posit power look back thi and ask question peopl and inform had claim and you pooh pooh not sold iraq arm navi made ussr vessel airforc not includ stuff captur kuwait not doesn includ equip missil tank almost soviet french tank older stuff iraqi arsen not sold iraq iraq captur countri kuwait inform hard prove you claim that sold inform prove build iraq gave fairli conclus evid that didn sell arm iraq inform hard prove almost sell inform that fact classifi and you can prove you can provid evid that sold arm valuabl intellig iraq interest not you make claim base mccullou whippl wisc edu never program and drink beer time doesn work
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan articl innknk bozo dsinc perri dsinc jim perri write sinc thi line discuss rest readership read thi book your thought read found wonder for reason flame remind hemingwai carl orff and van gogh not onc geoff arnold nf architect sun select geoff arnold east sun made thing great lie gui two thousand year ago wine tear garden
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral repli frank frank dwyer problem for objectivist determin statu moral truth and method can establish accept that such judgement not report relat naturalist fallaci cannot prove fact natur world thi can avoid two wai leav good undefin sinc claim that not ly touch human undeserv repli good undefin undefin you requir that innat you back subjectiv defin good sole term evalu term ditto evalu statement impli judgement part person make thi point objectivist talk evid truth pretti percept that prof flew can deni subjectivist claim that evid mind behold deni that subject object true dichotomi explain thi help don your argument not left claim that moral judgement true noth moral judgement true thi thing that commonli refer nihil entail that scienc irrepect fact that peopl find arriv relativ subjectiv thi argument beat thi make sens flew argu that thi objectivist wind not subjectivist nihilist believ noth scienc materi revolut and peopl subjectivist feel that that remain that moral judgement associ hold moral opinion suggest not true prefer human activ and prefer includ terror that moral opinion not true likewis prefer includ noterror that moral opinion not true choos set prefer includ terrorisim includ noterror reason thi patent absurd and not posit subjectivist point you ditch strawman and repli mike cobb root messag thread societ basi for moral david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	risen repli kmr cwru edu keith ryan lord and savior david keresh risen aliv spread word jeez can straight told wait for dai god david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	colleg atheist read articl poll student ivi leagu school report that student indentifi atheist thi lot higher gener popul reason for thi discrep intellig younger thi wave futur david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost repli timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon kind ignor demonstr post thi newsgroup for instanc gener christian popular newsgroup you read anti christian post virtual respons christian post you will burn hell kind drivel soft atheist courtesi faq even bibl that repeatedli warn fals prophet preach name god bake transpar obviou that you theist pretend atheist you you clever thi time possibl creator and etern carri emot power dismiss basi thi line you dismiss you atheist religion hard atheism faith word you didn read faq david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	shit shovel amus atheist and repli jimh carson washington edu jame hogan predilict shit shovel latest you atheist arriv show ignor bill bobbi bake engag reason discours flame fest entertain thread tug war folk bobbi grown time view that for entertain longer entertain into kill file david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost timmbak mcl ucsb edu half bake timmon write maddi whirr click whirr frank dwyer contain that shell pop stack determin whirr click whirr killfil keith allen schneider frank closet theist dwyer maddi mad sound geek hausmann name killfil keith nicknam maddi never post hausmann and don you dare forget half noth higher stronger wholesom and life good memori alyosha brother karamazov dostoevski you quot ivan karamazov atheist maddi hausmann madhau netcom centigram commun corp san jose california kid don thi home rememb post profession
alt.atheism	death penalti polit athei date tue apr mathew mathew manti great film call manufactur consent noam chomski and media canadian film berlin film festiv thi year you chanc and can recommend book read think order book review claim good introduct polit activ dig titl mathew chomski reader edit jame peck publish pantheon
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost date apr gmt bake timmon timmbak mcl ucsb edu rememb koresh dri for your sin and pass that beef jerki umm umm wasn can reli you post cook
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write question for basi moral moral ethic behavior societ accept behavior societi societi collect individu will fall defin rule term decis set peopl repres consid part that societi feder law provid repres pure citizen societi for that case citizen and defin accept accept behaviour legisl for societi repres that societi behaviour verbal and effect conscious such pick your nose oprah winfrei show explicit law case definit whether not behaviour accept can deduc behaviour observ legal moral posit increasingli litig mad societi thi trap exceedingli difficult avoid infus and strengthen ethnic cultur american and australian bring local perspect cultur boundari accept behaviour widen and legisl eventu becom definit moral behaviour for instanc cultur domin religion call for live sacrific domest anim fundament christian find thi practic abhorr moral multicultur american societi thi kind problem defin legisl societi will differ opinion accept behaviour not and thi will due environment circumst opinion thing for univers moral code will suit cultur situat global accept more can agre and instanti global enforc concept major more will not common peopl thi earth live similar environ that happen jeff nonicknam clark
alt.atheism	you will hell articl apr nuscc nu cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan write cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan subject you will hell date tue apr gmt articl jsn psuvm psu edu jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat arrgg anoth anoth letter big gui dear god back heaven leav ration intellig peopl alon love meng unenlighten tan chade meng light end tunnel singapor cmtan iss nu come train meng prayer dear god save world like tammi
alt.atheism	you will hell articl cbnewsj att decai cbnewsj att dean kaflowitz write decai cbnewsj att dean kaflowitz subject you will hell date tue apr gmt articl portal videocart dfuller portal videocart dave fuller write jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat you mean prepar surround thumper proven hellish and not even dead prepar big beach umbrella gel pack ic thing big coleman cooler load miller draft miller draft sue pair balanc sneaker soni watchman and coupl carton bonton cheddar chees popcorn haven decid wear wear etern damnat dean kaflowitz you wear your nicest boxer short and bring plenti spf sunscreen grab bath suit towerl and veggi hotdog and can bonfir cookout that sound good you dean poster invit tammi trim heali
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war long jbrown batman bmd trw fact that situat exist that prompt and alli action back water countri back water countri wouldn interven not that don care can world policman coup had occur kuwait invas wouldn act not immin danger perceiv saudi arabia combin two unprovok invas genocid tyrant and potenti danger west oil interest caus action indic that place had saddam want plan into saudi arabia thi openli state pentagon analyst pull jbrown batman bmd trw not set strawman you want argu war logic altern hussein kuwait diplomat altern includ sanction ineffect report mid east countri show that hussein readi make concess due sanction didn want want crush battl test high tech toi built year jbrown batman bmd trw not savior world can polic each and countri that decid destruct invad anoth strateg posit relief tibet east timor place hypocrit magnitud don give shit freedom and democraci care oil and excus that soviet board sizabl militari presenc gulf region care make bet troop will come home basic saddam killer tortur peopl us ga and horror brutal dictat brutal dictat onc fuck you hitler for noriega bastard bastard chang mind and had rid david hunt graduat slave mind mechan engin idea opinion palestinian and carnegi mellon univers us golden rule jewish homeland email bluelobst cmu edu work pile higher and deeper will great dai scientist and engin monei and religion beg for monei pai priest
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior articl new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write qvh tinnsg citat ksu ksu edu yohan citat ksu ksu edu jonathan newton write articl qgm new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write question for basi moral moral ethic behavior societ accept behavior disagre societi think irrelev individu decid that import thi doesn want kill you can that decid exactli thi dissapoint answer interplai two person etho and societ moral person gener learn set belief express pure mental verbal level and don find express societi impur not sens bad state sometim thi societi thi fairli obviou not societi mandat societi disagre mandat societ mandat make standard for moral feel oneself part societi real sens us obviou exampl polit societi and racial societi and gender societi and sometim not agre issu defin accept gener feel idiot polici can basi admit ti loos feel that intuit thing wrong hard defend perhap infam you want long doesn hurt problem thi that you can not moral that doesn propound specif prefer behaviour legal moral posit think for ourselv agre action legal not make moral add hearti two action moral not make legal doesn impress mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu tax and spend cut billion dollar deficit michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu can explain chesterton regard adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior articl new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write guess delv into religi languag area exactli moral moral hope not subject thi you spiral moral moral moral label don make argument solid measur stick action can interpret even thi moral for exampl thing for ensur that will eat and drink action weigh thi statement help thi goal moral not immor thi lead such blank space wai fulfil goal hyper moral appli method never thought eat meat moral immor differenti not person choic prefer and not immor fall basi moral moral immor stop long hand gut reaction perhap discrimin moral don instinct thing vegetarian instinct feel tortur wrong thought long and listen argument perhap reason that wrong that differ consensu posit fall make you brought societ mandat control time make mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu can explain chesterton regard adam adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	societ basi for moral articl sad new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write apr cnsvax uwec edu nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye write repli cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb moral come societ accept follow that expect follow notion societ mandat moral pardon extrem couldn murder your brother and that exercis right felt good didn want forc moral don follow your moral that moral subject each person entitl moral attitud mine not priori correct els thi not mean that judg anoth basi moral standard entitl moral sens tell rest societi entitl pass law spell punish for behavior that offens major make can forc moral can want decid disagre agre you sens that moral inflict rule thing add almost avoid pain and that mean sacrif stuff for herd moral crimin not behavior moral realiz that immor and not care not moral system immor good point immor opinion don choos make decis that action wrong for and sinc grew and learn idea and wrong part incorpor rare you crimin behaviour for philosoph reason for lai claim altern moral system sincer belief and intern consist sociopath lack innat moral sens admit lean idea innat moral sens basi for can such concept extend stuff delet you mean that wrong for such thing not behav moral ey and chose basi condemn societi buzz word idea that action wrong for human societi hold that moral subject not mean that excus murder not object suddenli david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu can explain chesterton regard adam adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw
alt.atheism	you will hell articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write you wear your nicest boxer short and bring plenti spf sunscreen grab bath suit towerl and veggi hotdog and can bonfir cookout that sound good you dean poster invit room for nudist you upstand moral church nuditi sin sole intent learn fly
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl minster york cjh minster york write you that physic adam and ev and that human direct decend two human be cain and wive couldn sister didn daughter human genesi and dai adam begat seth hundr year and begat son and daughter felicit chri stuart incestu adam happen sig cooper
alt.atheism	test ignor test adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw understand anoth fear your comprehens gandalf
alt.atheism	amus atheist and anarchist articl timmbak mcl timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write mccullou whippl wisc edu write line atheist have sleev impli that read clipper project and paranoia seep clipper project btw clipper initi announc clinton that secur voic phone will us crypto chip facto govern standard problem govern admit that hold kei break code easili and justic depart will kei listen illeg activ peopl scare such initi major step outlaw real crypto protect thing email you read press releas project develop nsa and nist two kei and that govern claim need break code claim that kei will hand two compani and warrant wiretap chip nicknam wiretap chip kei compani peopl poke hole and press releas offici version and shown nice sound and simplifi version peopl sci crypt scare thi propos mccullou whippl wisc edu never program and drink beer time doesn work
alt.atheism	pope jewish date tue apr gmt bruce rake bruce cortex dixi mcgoi unicorn ac ttu edu david mcgaughei write thought that pope bear you that bear shit wood pope cathol connect two line and heard bear cathol pope nevermind bruce rake softwar system manag elekta instrument inc execut park suit atlanta voic fax email bruce elekta alabama bear cathol pope shit wood pope not bear bear god paul bear bryant footbal coach god univers alabama
alt.atheism	faith and dogma tgk toronto edu todd kellei write light happen waco chest faith and dogma danger religion inher encourag implement faith and dogma and for that reason scorn religion don necessarili disagre your assert disagre your reason faith bad dogma bad religion faith dogma religion bad bad religion bad you never state faith and dogma danger you faith and dogma danger happen waco you miss point branch davidian made mistak confus messag messeng believ koresh prophet and believ problem wasn religion follow didn die faith and dogma di zealotri case children zealotri parent express thi notion past christian debat whether christian leav room for reason claim ration quell christian faith and dogma christian total irrat irrat respect religion you belief christian god not make total irrat you get hear you expand subject philosoph cannot christian philosoph can chang mind christian cannot due natur faith and dogma present religion thi statement gener christian perfectli capabl philosoph and absolut capabl chang mind faith god belief and belief chang you assert that atheist make poor philosoph predispos not god show unfair bia studi religion claim that christian philosoph not christian person belief moment correspond christian that person visit guard prison not prison you defin prison simpli prison can defin prison moment prison can defin christian moment christian belief person free not prison similarli person not constrain faith and dogma not christian christian prison heard parol you read into thi subject christian follow religion base teach man name jesu christ thi definit impli that cannot chang mind prison you can decid leav voluntari not two not compat religion gun that doesn kill religion encourag faith and dogma and doesn directli condemn peopl encourag us think think that kill peopl prefer religion water pistol fill urin not religion condemn group peopl common target infidel curiou altern atheist insert specif religi affili person race egyptian explain think kill peopl and state your answer waco not human capabl thought and genocid and even mass suicid not will bet that your conscienti peacenik and rais you religi zealot bad acn wasn awar mass suicid problem waco and jonestown isol incid mass suicid common kevin marshal comput scienc depart virginia tech marshal csugrad edu blacksburg virginia
alt.atheism	church satan islam author sic women david rice ofa fidonet org write marshal csugrad edu kevin marshal csugrad edu yeah hilari satanist satan god not god satan part christian mytholog cannot worship satan acknowledg exist christian god satanist satan master and god and satan adversari similar power satanist eventu overthrow god and transfer power master kevin marshal great satanist not satan don assert that orthodox satanist not worship satan church satan etc worship hear lavei idiot and fool satan and allah knew that sucker born minut maximu anton lavei interpret satan puzzl read satan bibl year ago for social studi project book arthur lyon call cult devil worship america includ interest interview black pope that satan instrument for realiz refer satan refer mishmash rural satan ritual and witchcraft exist church satan don lavei church orthodox follow satanist lavei combin philosophi nietzsch crowlei and reich slap religi doctrin ad touch barnum and christen creation church satan doubt titl calcul attempt attract attent suppos easili call church free sex rate work for heydai church had huge includ such hollywood celebr sammi davi and jayn mansfield pictur lavei sammi find idea satanist not believ satan credibl christian not believ christ you includ church satan suppos alter definit webster dictionari and american heritag dictionari will kevin marshal comput scienc depart virginia tech marshal csugrad edu blacksburg virginia
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan vers articl edm apr gocart twisto compaq edm twisto compaq mccreari write topic book notic that pain ag reason hard find want pick copi for not bad mail order notic that bookstor carri thought thi suppos classic deal local us book store second largest west coast and couldn find copi guess atheist hold bibl esteem theist bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	islam genocid articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qkovl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write fals dichotomi you claim kill not religi motiv and that wrong not that each and kill religi motiv spell detail kill you relig motiv for exampl claim that recent assassin cathol construct worker had connect ira relig motiv time write that claim current violenc motiv religion reach you call write kill not relig motiv argu that religion past major contribut factor violenc present don evid that thi and not historian debat that avow aim ira northern ireland into countri that church written into constitut and restrict civil right dictat that church fail word past claim that kill not relig motiv grotesqu that mean that church and believ histori can face rewrit you attack claim claim that ira terrorist plant bomb warrington not motiv greater glori god frank put quot your word your post horu mchp sni don that claim you can longer stand your origin claim mean thing kill not relig motiv terrorist plant bomb doesn religi motiv exampl meant clarifi not claim claim refer claim you seemingli attack previou post that religion not major histor present violenc don assert that assert opposit you don hand bunch doubl talk seemingli attack quot attack jon
alt.atheism	inimit rushdi articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write jkj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write understand that blasphemi law exist us appli anglican christian thi fit your claim that state religion don you approx two million british muslim break time dai and never prosecut easi hold christian church servic saudi arabia jon
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan vers articl innknk bozo dsinc perri dsinc jim perri write sinc thi line discuss rest readership read thi book your thought read and controversi broke put name wait list librari that book offens monei find author publish and read cover cover us phrase that popular and like write style hard us worth effort come similar background rushdi grew bombai muslim famili and move england grew delhi made strong impress and us strang construct indian english yaar end sentenc butbutbut occasion hindi phrase etc time sorta kinda thought muslim and couldn flap clear that thi allegori clear that describ local prostitut name and persona muham wive and had not grandfath thunder impli that muham wive prostitut short angri muslim that had read even part book miss point complet and won mention fact that milit had never even book oop perhap deep sens book insult islam expos silli reveal religion omnipot deiti agent can come directli can that muham didn into desert and smoke and that scribe dictat quran didn screw put vers and can muham marri women muslim allow biggest insult islam that major follow want suppress book sight unseen holi gui not mention murder author year made thi point primarili muslim poster respond that read book and had call such thing filth and li rank rushdi book hitler mein kempf wors and had respons talk book silli argument peopl read mein kampf made afraid don read book and decid for reaction muslim commun book and absenc protest liber muslim khomeini fatwa outrag final push need into atheism shamim moham uunet noao cmcl arizona shamim shamim arizona edu thi cross and garlic mezuzah jewish page koran muslim and zen buddhist you your member leagu for program freedom write lpf uunet net
alt.atheism	univers and black hole year articl apr iastat edu iastat edu warren vonroeschlaub wrote that drop marbl into black hole race faster even horizon curv space caus excess graviti object approach event horizon travel integr curv time reach event horizon infin math that noth can enter black hole not true observ rest infinit distanc black hole will particl infinit time reach horizon particl refer frame take finit time reach horizon and singular math predict thi mitchner thorn and wheeler gravit peter walker don forget sing heaven for will wait ain laugh sinner cry saint sinner fun good die young
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl qla afp fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write hope islam bank bcci rip small depositor muslim commun and grow childish propagandist bbci exampl islam own and oper bank will bet weren real islam owner and oper islam bank bank oper rule islam regard bank thi explicitli bank thi not case bcci you that islam bank bcci you care explain that hope islam bank bcci you call childish propagandist jon
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write differ understand that invest share risk ventur bank lend monei charg interest bank take risk entir busi bank manag risk that bank for that peopl work for bank that financi stuff ain thing that case you post hear you don understand thi stuff islam jon
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist articl qnpe inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write spent quit bit time word constitut realis that thi wide held belief america fact claus cruel and unusu punish lot rest lift english bill right word not mean didn spend time word part post you helpfulli delet point that us word english bill right appar chang understood and ask two hundr year bound keith allan schneider think understood look dictionari defin word isn thi suffici sinc dictionari that lack merci intent inflict injuri grief count cruel peopl can describ cruel thi punish cannot cannot cruel fate your prevar get increasingli unconvinc jon
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write articl qnedm fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl mdinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write spent quit bit time word constitut realis that thi wide held belief america fact claus cruel and unusu punish lot rest lift english bill right jerri mander absenc sacr good book btw great bind law iroquoi confederaci plai signific role model for constitut appar marx and engel strongli influenc studi iroquoi societi prime exampl success classless egalitarian noncoerc societi mander that and studi origin document figur each wrong and time that fascin heard that chines italian invent pasta jon
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl qnp inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write perhap chimp that fail evolv cooper behaviour di and left that evolv such behaviour chanc that entir point that point evolut not point natur moral suggest time natur moral renam you proclaim natur moral time organ evolv cooper behaviour natur moral moral that develop natur your stronger thi you agre that time organ evolv cooper behaviour you call natur moral natur moral bee danc huh bee danc natur develop piec cooper behaviour jon
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl apr daffi wisc edu mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write articl afp fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl ajinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write chimp system live social group law dictat undesir behavior verb warn that back kindergarten such law jon hei verb languag happen modifi english verb sentenc thi modifi that verb languag complain assert contain word jon
alt.atheism	satan articl mimsi umd edu mango umd edu charlei wingat write jon livesei write that peopl time copi text correctli translat present complet issu read paper that qumram text had version text misunderstand read newspap learn thi kind stuff not idea world newspap report notori ignor subject religion and prone exagger interest real stori that bigger headlin back thi point masoret text targum translat commentari arama etc and septuagint ancient greek translat masoret text standard jewish text and essenti not vari place obviou corrupt copi faithfulli copi copi passag past interpret refer targum and septuagint time copi text correctli that includ obviou corrupt septuagint differ masoret text two particular includ addit text and second passag variant read masoret text addit fix predat corrupt passag emphas that knowledg variat signifc bibl scholar and theolog import time copi text correctli that not exclud variant read masoret text theolog import dead sea scroll materi add thi ancient copi almost isaiah and fragment size almost book abund materi sign hebrew antecd apocrypha extra text septuagint analysi proceed variat dss text and masoret version tend reflect septuagint isn error differ not signific theolog thi big expect that great theolog surpris lurk materi thi hasn happen dss import almost textual tradit unlik for hei you expert jon
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost articl ofp vpdinppwh andrew cmu edu nanci ann miller andrew cmu edu write timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write li hypocrisi dude atheism take faith theism admit not believ god mean doesn deal extra baggag that come thi leav person feel wonderfulli free beaten head for year agre that religion and belief import psycholog healer for peopl and for that reason import forc psycholog fantasi don mean that bad that isn interest extrem rude believ santa clau and that note that belief god behavor imper lack belief religion harm not belief god dan
alt.atheism	faith and dogma articl eov aurora engr latech edu rai engr latech edu bill rai write todd kellei tgk toronto edu wrote faith and dogma danger faith and dogma inevit christian understand and admit fact give your proof that god exist that whichev posit you you forc faith good you posit for show interest exist god assum not exist stuff delet poster post thi not true for show interest exist god take faith you make presumpt that knowledg possibl requir faith render that possibilti interest thing that you don that you don suffic reason even interest not sometim interest that occupi your mind agre that faith and dogma inevit not necessarili appli god and religion take faith and dogma expect sun come morn overwhelm reason singl dai dai and dai for put faith and dogma not christian religion jim halat halat bear bear stearn doesn kill you will serv annoi you nyc speak for
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak dan schaertel wrote articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain write not believ god not concern disposit beneath provid evid requir evid that person thi god find compel fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you wouldn punish etern tortur didn love decent chap your god isn respons you love god and step promis for you you for look and wasn anoth promis broken doubt thi disput not givin sincer effort ly bastard you effort and not simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic abil reason spec creation ultim you reli simpli your reason you will never you learn you accept that you don can eaplain peter don forget sing heaven for will wait ain laugh sinner cry saint sinner fun good die young
alt.atheism	you will hell articl cbnewsj att decai cbnewsj att dean kaflowitz wrote articl portal videocart dfuller portal videocart dave fuller write jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat you mean prepar surround thumper proven hellish and not even dead prepar big beach umbrella gel pack ic thing big coleman cooler load miller draft miller draft sue pair balanc sneaker soni watchman and coupl carton bonton cheddar chees popcorn haven decid wear wear etern damnat dean kaflowitz dress casual heaven dress code black tie and import express don forget sing heaven for will wait ain laugh sinner cry saint sinner fun good die young
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write jkj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write alt atheism that condemn action call muslim condemn islam you read mind rice you poster not write for peopl post and that comment you misunderstood mean that not critic islam necessarili bring khomeini etc into argument for whether not islam determin examin action islam teach islam teach contain qur and hadith report sai and do prophet that funni thought you make statement peopl fact quot jon
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write jon found refer claim that percentag popul that suffer depress increas thi centuri you request will start head thread post cool can discuss increas radio and us increas us fossil fuel increas air travel and consumpt process bread and you can instruct increas depress jon
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl qugin horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qkogg fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write and that area you care whether sceptic critic and autonom hand gullibl excit and easili led and atheist and gullibl excit and easili led that tendenc worship tyrant and ideolog that person easili led whether worship belief supernatur hero earthli besid point whether not atheist discuss not whether easili led not you show that hypothet atheist gullibl excit and easili led concret that case discuss that concret atheism factor that caus subsequ behaviour jon
alt.atheism	faith and dogma marshal csugrad edu kevin marshal eba hsq csugrad edu wrote don necessarili disagre your assert disagre your reason faith bad dogma bad religion faith dogma religion bad bad religion bad you never state faith and dogma danger faith and dogma danger peopl act faith alon natur justif that mean word faith belief justif belief arbitrari justif emot irrat justif for exampl that god exist that don god exist can feel that faith dogma bad preclud posit chang belief base inform increas mental faculti christian total irrat irrat respect religion you belief christian god not make total irrat you get hear you expand subject faith and dogma irrat faith and dogma part religion respons for irration individu claim that faith and dogma quintessenti part religion that make overus thi context buddism philosophi religion can live that scienc not religion faith dogma philosoph cannot christian philosoph can chang mind christian cannot due natur faith and dogma present religion thi statement gener christian perfectli capabl philosoph and absolut capabl chang mind faith god belief and belief chang you assert that atheist make poor philosoph predispos not god show unfair bia studi religion you notic that philosoph tend atheist philosoph not atheist call theologian christian christian sacr christian special set belief sanction god and conceiv chang belief question exist that make mistak faith come into plai dogma come into plai lord work mysteri wai exampl faith us reconcil evid that belief flaw interpret god chang satisfi societi god that and that that sinc god unflaw even interpret flaw scienc practic atheist contrast built defenc faith and dogma scientist hold sacr idea that belief chang suit inform time and and and scientist understand that current belief defici goal improv belief goal chang belief reflect inform that ration thing that good philosophi can you differ scienc view belief flaw and inform can obtain improv scientist claim complet and perfect understand put job religion view belief perfect and interpret belief chang inform acquir conflict explain think kill peopl and state your answer waco easier for kill person doesn requir good ration justif kill don jewish born jewish parent thi document jewish good ration justif wasn awar mass suicid problem waco and jonestown isol incid mass suicid common clinton and fbi love for you convinc thi save taxpay lot monei you todd
alt.atheism	faith and dogma eov aurora engr latech edu rai engr latech edu bill rai wrote faith and dogma inevit christian understand and admit fact give your proof that god exist that whichev posit you you forc faith good you posit for show interest exist god assum not exist special rel hasn prove disprov proof peopl interest satisfi that noth absolut exist god two possibl supernatur and natur set circumst can inconsist supernatur similarli set circumst can inconsist natur natur phenomenon that describ god consid part natur world studi natur phenomenon graviti for instanc for exampl loud godlik voic vocifer announc god exist and will prove revers forc graviti and graviti revers naturalist scientist boi didn understand graviti thought and that loud voic perhap didn understand thunder thought contend that proper implement christian faith requir reason that reason cannot us throw thing you don find uncomfort hedonist sexual behavior condemn bibl and act true reason will make condemn hatr murder gossip condemn god ordain murder bibl you bet and god order kill you will will us gideon behavior verifi that god order hit and will discuss abram fashion glad you don live sinc you don realiz imposs for you distinguish voic your head and god voic can hear you thi jim jone and david koresh justifi behavior delusion religi cult bear relationship christian that rape bear consentu sex form substanc southern baptist church methodist church begin thi you reason blame mainstream religion for behavior peopl associ neg behavior wit christian you you miss point even jim jone and david koresh not religi peopl point remain that faith and dogma danger and religion encourag jim jone and david koresh encourag point not reli jim jone and david koresh religi todd
alt.atheism	faith and dogma articl eov aurora engr latech edu rai engr latech edu bill rai write todd kellei tgk toronto edu wrote faith and dogma danger faith and dogma inevit christian understand and admit fact give your proof that god exist that whichev posit you you forc faith good you posit for show interest exist god assum not exist absolut not true religion establish you invent for theist and atheist equal not interest god religi revel inform god strip dogma and theist atheist simpli hold opinion matter practic import contend that proper implement christian faith requir reason that reason cannot us throw thing you don find uncomfort hedonist sexual behavior condemn bibl and act true reason will make condemn hatr murder gossip condemn god ordain murder bibl you bet and god order kill you will will us gideon behavior verifi that god order hit and will discuss abram fashion that doesn test will you appli decid whether god satan you speak will you that you not simpli insan delus you load gun can hear you thi jim jone and david koresh justifi behavior delusion religi cult bear relationship you not stupid assum southern baptist church methodist church begin thi you reason blame mainstream religion for behavior peopl associ neg behavior wit christian you thi togeth each human make small part definit human dan
alt.atheism	thought christian articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain wrote articl sandvik sandvik kent appl sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write you can physic problem passiv christian unlik smoke not that hard avoid christian todai ignor keith err kent whadda you mean you didn smilei ouch guess didn comment ironi into fire cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan vers articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain wrote articl edm apr gocart twisto compaq edm twisto compaq mccreari write topic book notic that pain ag reason hard find want pick copi for not bad mail order notic that bookstor carri thought thi suppos classic deal local us book store second largest west coast and couldn find copi guess atheist hold bibl esteem theist rememb correctli prometheu book thi stock call and for book cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	ag reason read rushdi thi stori kent archetyp finn that live bai area and purchas thoma pain ag reason thi man drive stacei book inc cleanlight place dalton place ask for thi book educ american book store assist ask check thriller section that book not publish receiv book place assist bluntli that don such author that not live author don copi book such life and time america year revolut cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	thought articl rekj darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write jame felder spbach lerc nasa gov wrote logic alert argument incredul hard for you thi doesn mean that isn true liar can pursuas koresh that you cite thi basi great reject christian account thing word madalyn murrei hair face folk silli disbeliev your incredul you admit that fallaci isn and wasn awar that thi hair chick reader that doesn support your assert that argument basi great reject dan
alt.atheism	thought christian articl rgkb darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write kent sandvik sandvik newton appl wrote social pressur import factor for major passiv christian world todai case earli christian promis heavenli afterlif independ your social statu promis gift reason slave and roman accept religion rapidli thi hypothet proposit you fact you cite your sourc thi amateur sociologist sub branch suffic alert unwari that you screw you accept sourc thi thing written lot book you start erich fromm dogma christ doug graham dgraham bnr opinion
alt.atheism	cruel polit atheist articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write jerri mander absenc sacr good book btw great bind law iroquoi confederaci plai signific role model for constitut appar marx and engel strongli influenc studi iroquoi societi prime exampl success classless egalitarian noncoerc societi mander that and studi origin document figur each wrong and time that fascin heard that chines italian invent pasta that fascin that you express skeptic idea that ignor savag influenc constitut peopl stole contin you sound plausibl reason that you dismiss hand recent scholarship shown that mid indian not invit particip deliber found father that great bind law iroquoi confederaci arguabl singl import model for albani plan union and articl confeder and constitut that thi absent school text and histori and media not surpris devot american feel found myth great men gather express vision that withstood test time reveal that indian had role imagin blow american psych men and gather creat albani plan union confeder invit forti two member iroquoi grand council serv advisor confeder structur benjamin franklin freeli acknowledg interest iroquoi achiev famou speech albani congress strang thing six nation ignor savag sic capabl form such union and execut such manner that subsist for ag and appear indissolubl and that union impract for ten dozen english coloni grind franklin conven meet iroquoi chief and congression deleg order hammer plan that acknowedg similar iroquoi confederaci grind professor donald grind univers california riversid book iroquoi and found father american nation address thi issu doug graham dgraham bnr opinion
alt.atheism	studi book mormon date tue apr gmt carolyn jean fairman cfairman leland stanford edu agrino enkidu mic andr grino brandt ask mormon mention event place histor person discov archeologist amus thing bom claim that civil exist north america aroun mystic plate found not us steel and metal had lot war found metal sword and trace civil nativ american thi exampl free inquiri winter introduct articl joseph smith and book mormon georg smith introduct written paul kurtz mormon church jesu christ dai saint claim worldwid membership million world fastest grow religion converst alon church aggress missionari program cover hundr countri spread even world countri mormon puritan moral outlook and evangel preachment church run strict authoritarian line led presid allegedli receiv revel directli form god and group twelv apostl attempt maintain orthodoxi belief and practic church oppos abort pornographi sexual freedom women right and view immor influenc secular societi and forbid us tobacco alcohol coffe and tea center salt lake citi church extrem wealthi and polit power utal and western state present dai mormon ezra taft benson secretari agricultur osmond famili mariott hotel empir and score high govern offici mormon church found western york joseph smith claim that divin revel had found gold plate contain hieroglyph buri hill and that visit angel moroni had translat write into book mormon basi mormon belief thi book written command god claim that ancient hebrew settl america and ancestor american indian mormon that baptiz true church will reunit death and that deceas mormon famili member can baptiz proxi and join rel hereaft belief mormon consid outcast mainlin christian denomin and heret religi fundamentalist joseph smith controversi figur dai worship saint and denounc fraud persecut led band loyal follow palmyra york westward ohio and illinoi shot death agri mob brigham young reportedli had eighti wive leadership church and led mormon westward found zion salt lake citi teach joseph smith practic polygami perhap mormon controversi practic nineteenth centuri america religion back centuri muhammadan year christian and judaism and attempt examin begin difficult extens histor investig mormon root mormon will examin thi histori object maintain that such scrutini danger faith page free inquiri present two articl mormon church georg smith lifelong member church detail critic examin joseph smith and claim book mormon divin reveal second present portion interview philosoph sterl mcmurrin mormon sinc birth question treatment histori church mormon author paul kurtz articl super jimtim psilink
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak write simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic don you cite passag that can focu discuss jesu you can make fool and logic you reli simpli your reason you will never you you can justifi make thi assert you geniu logic and make fool that easier qpliu princeton edu standard opinion opinion delta correl
alt.atheism	logic jesu dp nasa kodak pontif simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic can you cite exampl thi post answer don want receiv mail jame green jgreen obo calpoli edu time and nation priest hostil liberti thoma jefferson
alt.atheism	islam author women kmr cwru edu keith ryan pontif moslem men rape woman commit act and wit penetr guilti verdict can render confess two male wit crime adulteri and rape prove wit actual penetr occurr that not happen thi quran spell jame green jgreen obo calpoli edu time and nation priest hostil liberti thoma jefferson
alt.atheism	you god court heard that california you swear mention god state includ god courtroom oath jame green jgreen obo calpoli edu time and nation priest hostil liberti thoma jefferson
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl apr abo mandtbacka finabo abo mat andtbacka write fpv horu mchp sni frank write articl apr abo mandtbacka finabo abo mat andtbacka write that chestnut your claim that moral objectiv scientif objectiv don agre prove object moral test that disagre incorrect your claim you delet not univers not object delet interest breviti back step and you your post that claim you can refut firstli apolog you hadn delet your claim and mistaken you had for offenc caus secondli can refut your definit can point logic implic and that contradict usag word object area your definit object oxymoron for quibbl that belief that useless and that object perfectli good word object not ag univers show ag can univers and intern consist amaz moral system can member societi singl individu case and human stick togeth beg question peopl can opinion ag univers and human can stick togeth you that univers real ag independ belief ag univers scientif fact can emir verifi mean that give result matter perform test albeit error bar that largish side thi assum that univers real ag kind realiti doesn depend extrem biblic creationist give rat ass mean you speak heard verifi moral consist comput error measur care enlighten true pain painkil exist and can predict work accuraci random guess wrote that moral hypothes observ moral system make predict will that can test and falsifi predict thi drug will reliev pain peopl idea ag object not object you can idea you and can stop you universa and ag anoth ballgam and you dislik detail that problem your opinion assum object realiti and you statement thi claim that moral opinion our and such subject and individu wrong object real thing exist you label object moral can you back thi posit claim exist can you back your posit claim that assumpt make assumpt valu basi that logic differ two and empir basi two precis point moral essenc person opinion ideal found motiv such nonetheless person fact that real larg lot peopl agre moral question sometim even for reason not make moral object make human somewhat alik opinion that moral question can good for evolut social speci and real larg lot nice phrase peopl agre that footbal desk suppos logic differ two perhap you can explain differ sinc you desk perform test footbal accept theori peopl hallucin moral inform and that oppos drift you claim never good mean scienc matter altogeth you prove that disagre wrong that simpl matter prove track record scientif method great and appli valu complet wrong that conclud result quit amount thought frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	thought articl reyf darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner wrote kent sandvik sandvik newton appl wrote articl vice ico tek bobb vice ico tek robert beauchain wrote spank wrong didn lord liar lunat origin lewi thi campollo fellow and isn clear connect absurd notion origin christian origen similar statement attribut anselm that understand case reason somewhat exalt post accept mean that statement can properli analys thi venu bill you misunderstand atheism lack belief god not directli impli lack understand transcendent valu hope you accept fact that for instanc buddhist issu relat empir reason automat theism read coupl book relat buddhism revis and fine tune your understand christian system cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	christian moral articl pww spac rice edu pww spacsun rice edu peter simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic abil reason spec creation ultim you reli simpli your reason you will never you learn you accept that you don can eaplain can jesu us logic make peopl logic fool that not sound told fool and that and peopl believ that hmm not sound reason find intrigu peopl state that transcendent valu can explain and sentenc explain unexplain valu highli strang cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	thought christian articl rgkb darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner wrote kent sandvik sandvik newton appl wrote social pressur import factor for major passiv christian world todai case earli christian promis heavenli afterlif independ your social statu promis gift reason slave and roman accept religion rapidli thi hypothet proposit you fact you cite your sourc thi amateur sociologist sub branch suffic alert unwari that you screw rememb jacobi mythmak talk thi cite sourc not christian read thi book addit social experi rais and educ lutheran lot christian friend and even plai two christian rock band you you counter claim sourc rest that show that christian not concept social promis that independ social statu cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	islam author women articl darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner wrote credit religion awesom power domin histori misunderstand human natur function religion and histori that distort histori thi exaclti and for affect underestim power religion creat histor event big misunderstand for instanc year war start fraction protest and vatican cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist articl rlyz darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner wrote thi fascin atheist argu for abort defend homosexu mean popul control insist that valu biolog and condemn war and capit punish benedikt contardictori cannot exist thi case mean atheist suppos understand atheist can object war excel mean control popul growth capit punish logic escap and capit punish question proprieti kill punish basi ecomplaint bill heard secular human check thi stand for and revis your statement cheer kent sandvik newton appl alink ksand privat activ net
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl qugin horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qkogg fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write and that area you care whether sceptic critic and autonom hand gullibl excit and easili led and atheist and gullibl excit and easili led that tendenc worship tyrant and ideolog that person easili led whether worship belief supernatur hero earthli besid point whether not atheist discuss not whether easili led not you show that hypothet atheist gullibl excit and easili led concret that case discuss that concret atheism factor that caus subsequ behaviour not argu that atheism such behaviour that not relev definit atheism lack belief god frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	islam genocid articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qkovl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write fals dichotomi you claim kill not religi motiv and that wrong not that each and kill religi motiv spell detail kill you relig motiv for exampl claim that recent assassin cathol construct worker had connect ira relig motiv time write that claim current violenc motiv religion reach you call write kill not relig motiv motiv primit notion reveng and misguid patriot come mainland cathol not kill mainland protest and southern cathol not kill southern protest and plausibl bar religion and violenc diminish markedli gee that argu that religion past major contribut factor violenc present don evid that thi and not historian debat that avow aim ira northern ireland into countri that church written into constitut and restrict civil right dictat that church fail word past countri offici languag written constitut and vice versa motiv love irish poetri your argument fallaci jon for worth agre that you ireland and frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict genocid caus atheism articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write delet god creat night dai sun and moon each travel orbit motion qur posit aspect thi vers note mauric bucail that geocentr commonli accept notion time and for long time notion geocentr thi vers anywher qur that translat found for surpris hear that night and dai move orbit and that sun travel orbit that earth sound geocentr benedikt
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl inr lvi horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write delet and real larg lot nice phrase peopl agre that footbal desk suppos logic differ two perhap you can explain differ sinc you rest delet that fallaci and not time point not fallaci note supermajor disinterest peopl agre fundamant not ethic benedikt differ that and peopl agre trivial observ refer not ethic dubiou you us term absolut object and interchang moral valu valu worth measuer and us you infer not fulfil your intermiss wast time assum that you don intend thi reason conclud that you want argu point you made interest statement that disinterest observ such thing moral shortest proof for object and moral contradict for you never set moral peopl agre unlik footbal you conveni ignor that not agre tghe moral analog not hold exampl peopl agre and explain peopl will agre that freedom valuabl state that such condit for object ethic assert and that talk isn point talk ethic thi can agre fine and that freedom valuabl not gener agre name quit lot peopl state opposit not that that wasn mention word you noth fulfil your strong claim can expect suffici peopl agre footbal you give evid that vanish number disagre set moral you give not moral ethic can past valu cogent object freedom exampl that peopl aren talk thing answer that valuabl not and want thi implic true clutch straw don map into metaphys set load term fixpoint deni moral freedom make quit clear practic tell even willingli unfre quit common religion for religion name submiss don even argu that submiss freedom evid not proof proof evolv test your theori absolut moral compet theori garbag that not proof argu case afraid that that consid proof argument you reiter you never answer object evid that you preacher name that fallaci univers valu moral context benedikt
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law qla afp fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl jkj fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write hope islam bank bcci rip small depositor muslim commun and delet bbci exampl islam own and oper bank will bet weren real islam owner and oper and turn long run and quit ruthless oper steal monei small and quit naiv depositor islam bank oper fashion your modern bank explain anoth thread for exampl islam bank don pai fix interest deposit return invest vari market and not fix interest islam bank rel phenomenon islam world islam bank west includ usa knowledg doubt market for exist not islam bank rel earli stage develop case bcci not islam bank bcci pai fix interest rate deposit answer thi question bcci not islam bank islam bank specif set not pai charg interest whether muslim partial own bank complet irrelev fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war long thi unmitig bilg jim brown possess wing token diplomat altern includ sanction ineffect decemb nation secur advis zbigniew brzezinski told senat committe that sanction cost iraq million per dai and that multin coalit time world iraq suggest lose badli dai defi demand commun nation won dai take life loss life fcnl washington newslett world full evil and circumst not perfect innoc suffer due wrong action regret that wrong action murder leader govern perhap regrett not media not total monolith even conserv sourc you hurrah for rush good heaven escape rush limbot land conserv ass and btw reason brought blanket bomb germani you bemoan iraqi civilian casualti deplor blanket bomb institut bomb wasn accur hit industri militari target decis method that time gulf war precis bomb norm bullshit gulf massacr ordnanc us smart rest that regular dumb iron bomb and stuff you forgotten that pentagon definit success patriot launch missil clear launch tube damag that success intercept scud defin patriot and scud pass each area sky and that smart stuff hit follow that mean thi smart arsen miss stori hundr thousand iraqi civilian dead plain bunk prove sourc that that date civilian death count excus mean collater damag attempt calcul cost execut washington state studi suggest cost incarcer california spend million annual capit case and thi year hadn execut sinc texa nation leader number execut spend estim million per execut that compar averag cost incarcer washington state per maximum secur prison per year shamim moham uunet noao cmcl arizona shamim shamim arizona edu thi cross and garlic mezuzah jewish page koran muslim and zen buddhist you your member leagu for program freedom write lpf uunet net
alt.atheism	gulf war death penalti polit atheist articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write look back thi and ask question peopl and inform had claim and you pooh pooh not sold iraq arm land mine mention ask area you suggest and present inform mention landmin countri kuwait inform hard prove you claim that sold inform prove inform hard prove almost sell inform that fact classifi and you can prove neat dismiss can prove shadow doubt you admit can never prove your satisfact stick squar circl mathew you blindli thing reason evid didn realiz you theist doubt claim present evid support you present real evid for great unsupport claim even claim such and such new agenc will not accept you want stick sheer imposs difficult fine statement that such fact classifi you can prove simpl matter pragmat and law you access classifi inform that you classifi and you reveal good chanc that you person reveal you jail never that you couldn prove satisfact that difficult and make thing easi for peopl argu handicap mccullou whippl wisc edu never program and drink beer time doesn work
alt.atheism	gulf war and peac nik articl lva fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write wait minut doug you inform that never invad nicaragua invad nicaragua time thi centuri includ octob andf februari haiti occupi jon had forgotten and invas had learn mean forgot read context recent such sandinista expect immin invas never happen stand correct panama invad true twice thi centuri creat panama place foment and interven civil war republ colombia troop land colombia upris and colombia duli dismemb and replac two countri order that build panama canal republ panama rememb thi thi and bush invas two mention good teddi knew thing jon regard jim
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak write articl ousrvr oulu kempmp phoenix oulu petri pihko write dan schaertel dp nasa kodak wrote thi mean learn you accept that you don learn you accept don thi not prefer learn unwis swallow you read suppos write book tell great invis pink unicorn help daili problem you accept thi sinc you can whether true not ask you swallow fact jesu warn you question you beleiv you learn histori class for that matter school mean peopl told you and you don want swallow into sceptic heart you can not you sincer effort attitud you you trust not church and particip activ you will die for you believ branch dividian believ and trust that imposs turn back realiti you advoc total irrevers brainwash dan
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism articl hqd horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl qugin horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl qkogg fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write and that area you care whether sceptic critic and autonom hand gullibl excit and easili led and atheist and gullibl excit and easili led that tendenc worship tyrant and ideolog that person easili led whether worship belief supernatur hero earthli besid point whether not atheist discuss not whether easili led not you show that hypothet atheist gullibl excit and easili led concret that case discuss that concret atheism factor that caus subsequ behaviour not argu that atheism such behaviour that not relev definit atheism lack belief god throw faq can dwyer sinc can defin thing that rest talk jon
alt.atheism	gulf war sell arm articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write jbrown batman bmd trw write mathew agre thi crux your posit isn that shouldn support hussein and sold arm fight iran agre and agre ruthlessli hunt sell arm hussein and deal invad kuwait sit back and sold arm suppos us bad for kuwait sit back and let thing not correct mistak destroi hussein militari potenti move agre your statement reagan and bush made grave error judgment sell arm hussein happen that entir point last month john major hail great victori that had person secur sale arm saudi arabia month sold jet fighter indonesian govern that busi kill east timores heard arm sale saudi arabia such grave mistak sell saudi arabia weapon you claim that shouldn sell weapon countri straightforward answer oop made boo boo clean mistak and make mistak that can not deliber thi suspicion reinforc fact that mistak extrem profit for decrepit economi reliant arm sale benefit arm sale hint isn gov contractor that build that piec equip not and don export huge quantiti arm that you accus arm export rare that requir act congress for small arm countri not you tell can and can sell good mathew mccullou whippl wisc edu never program and drink beer time doesn work
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice wrote stuff delet not blindli matter knowledg islam law tell islam such and such immedi show support for thi statement qur and sunnah thi islam duti for hadith prophet peac and bless god your leader tell you enter fire and you and kill you sin for wrong even you blindli instruct your leader respons for action not abu hanifa imam malik etc even blindli opinion abu hanifa etc thi mind understand reason such opinion muslim that support khomeini fatwa understand hadith support khomeini fatwa relat instanc that occur war time brother gener imho ridicul and wrong that hadith relat action war usabl time peac sensibl human can thi person that reason ulema thi matter faulti for legitim us act war time peac thi subject you wrong feel free your reason qur and hadith not want reason qur and sahih hadith perhap discuss soc religion islam email rashid you thi disagre your opinion punish for apostasi viewpoint follow that gener punish for apostasi strongli support qur and hadith thi shown book punish islam law moham awa american trust public reiter that agre you that justif for punish apostasi qur islam histori apostasi rare punish belief consid matter conscienc and sinc compuls matter belief apost gener left not will apost make attack god and messeng situat charg apostasi complic charg perhap charg sedit treason spy etc person make public issu apostasi mount public attack oppos arguement islam situat likewis complic person spread slander broadcast falsehood situat punish vari situat apost charg aggrav apostasi subsidiari charg rushdi case distinct qur formal war situat and situat unilater wage war action creat disord make mischief etc muslim and creat situat that result harm muslim small group even singl individu engag such practis word clear differ formal war situat two defin parti wage war conclud treati exchang prison etc and deal attack that come isol individu group islam second situat unilater attack and spread fasad that appli case rushdi matter rushdi not simpl matter ban offens book ban book secondari full set circumst public book come into plai includ death muslim and rushdi and publish media game not blindli matter knowledg islam law tell islam such and such immedi show support for thi statement qur and sunnah thi islam duti for hadith prophet peac and bless god your leader tell you enter fire and you and kill you sin for wrong even you blindli instruct your leader respons for action not abu hanifa imam malik etc even blindli opinion abu hanifa etc understand hadith support khomeini fatwa relat instanc that occur war time brother gener imho ridicul and wrong that hadith relat action war usabl time peac sensibl human can thi person that reason ulema thi matter faulti for legitim us act war time peac thi subject not hadith you refer that qur anic vers fatwa base vers qur circumst revel understand tafsir vers restrict sole histor circumst reveal thi case that law and regul that reveal muslim not involv conflict suspend war logic not follow complex real life situat vers and hadith can relat singl complic situat intern relationship vers quit complex such that arriv understand vers interlock and each appli situat can quit demand task not necessarili simpl thi that process paramet involv larger context situat view matter imping situat word great deal involv deciph qur qur ask reflect vers thi reflect entail simpli read vers and hadith reflect for sake increas person pieti each person level understand and harm that reflect order decid matter that pertain state gestat law and rule gestat societi dispens justic guidanc commun minimum requir understand that achiev jaffar ibn muhammad sadiq relat requir taught prophet hadith not distinguish book allah abrog vers abrog and specif gener and decis ambigu and not differenti permiss and oblig and not recogn vers meccan period medinit and not circumst revel and not understand technic word qur whether simpl 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discuss gener and particular aam kha discuss uncondit and condit discuss tacit mean discuss abstract and clear discuss abrog and abrog principl applic law involv principl exempt principl precaut principl option principl masteri jurisprud bound rigor process pronounc judgement situat not matter vers and hadith blindli follow differ blind and acced opinion knowledg and qualifi oneself famou hadith prophet fuqaha religi scholar truste prophet long not concern illicit desir pleasur and wealth thi world prophet ask messeng god concern repli whether follow rule power that fear for your religion and shun not imam sunni madhab comment thi hadith appli contemporari scholar base prophet refer fuqaha fortress islam point make clear that arriv legal judgement call into plai amount expertis specif thi expertis delin qur and hadith acquir thi expertis prais qur and hadith requisit knowledg pronounc matter that affect societi state and religion caution reason rushdi affair thi group basi for discuss 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alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger wrote made clear claim that khomeini advoc view contradit qur and argument for thi thi that can check suffici interest khomeini dead can respond anoth poster support khomeini respond obfuscationist sophistri thi quit clear atheist suscept religionist mode obfuscation don mind thi exampl obfusc condemn even your basic fact straight you want exampl back and your previou post you manag your fact wrong fatwa and khomeini suppos infal salaam laikum
alt.atheism	conscious part kev strike back kevin anthonei kax nott wrote repli diplomat societi that constantli verg flame usenet diplomaci ensur voic reason get isn realiz fight occam razor thi argument explain feel mind kevin you delv into field algorithm your reason line roger penros claim that mathemat insight cannot algorithm book emperor mind comput mind and law physic penros claim that mathemat insight your similar claim that wavefunct collaps conscious illus obviouslu take viewpoint ponder problem conscious evolutionari perspect realis that not special think back wrote you worm mind not experi pain behav that conceiv that dai futur perform total synthesi elegan element such worm mind firstli not impress abil algorithm great solv problem onc method work not work method thi true extent not that brain work comput fact substanti evid skarda skarda freeman that brain work chaotic gener random for mental state evolv brain work genet algorithm gener suppos trick form discov thi mean that idea will pre program into brain thi somewhat that brain ultim encod chromosom worth genet materi isn us thi extrem vast impact nurtur mind and brain suggest that understand conscious collect algorithm kevin refer mention and expert natur consciou mind neurologist neuropsychologist and biologist not flame for opinion sinc studi be that consciou reason repeat advic that thi discuss cannot lead anywher background and not bring into thi discuss not physicist happi claim that conscious plai special role physic doesn problem algorithm instabl not algorithm surviv you larg portion code peopl surviv stroke complet haywir side effect patient remark stabl neuron perfectli healthi peopl dy alarm rate can algorithm surviv randomli corrupt bit code brain not comput don forget thi thi not mean work work differ primari purpos percept and guidanc action awar and high intellig appear problem sticki question colour replac colour sensat your choic materialist viewpoint that product kind chemic reaction usual product such reaction energi chemic colour mixtur you expect that find idea green brain perhap form chemic thi not sensat green time depend pattern area visual cortex and distribut area and rest brain fire pattern sometim thought conscious global free induct pattern local fire pattern thi idl specul scientif american septemb issu special issu mind and brain you read cover cover two articl visual percept you interest note that subject experi cannot observ person perspect noth neuron activ cannot conclud that thi not mind kalat write numer exampl electr stimul area brain led patient state mind for instanc patient septal area stimul knowledg remot control psychiatr interview quickli cure depress and start discuss plan seduc girlfriend stimul tempor lobe sometim led embarrass situat patient start flirt therapist conclus evid that brain essenti for subject experi brain damag equival sort mind damag consciou process involv substanti brain activ area brain colour visual cortex activ etc conscious afterthought becom consciou action half second delai and brain ahead consciou will fruit turn question colour and thi that observ sinc that consciou mind not king brain thi comput won colour chemistri algorithm that see colour select advantag equival that doesn shouldn output each algorithm equival circumst colour thi depend meant colour neural network that capabl recognis handwritten number number capabl sort you ask anim consciou observ evolutionari advantag anim doesn good answer read previou post wrote sens ident help social anim swap role and act moral that don unconsci kill each newli discov weapon bit extrem thi basic idea earli homo and effici tool sens ident and concept had evolv line thi develop respect for and consciou altruist behaviour evolutionari advantag for social anim such earli human rememb correctli quantum mechan consist wavefunct two process act process call unitari evolut govern schroeding equat and second process call thing such collaps wavefunct state vector reduct and mysteri occur measur take place precis that occur occur effect abruptli chang wavefunct mind requir for thi thi mean that human mind scene wavefunct never collaps remain superposit for aeon power thi discuss and thi topic irrelev sinc not agre that mind and physicist specul that mind part link conscious and that never linear superposit altern explain for thi idea brain suppos access part sinc thi specul that won matter main point that place for mind physic agre not sens you appar mean physic sharp mind solv real problem back nice pad cell that you you don forget you refer wrote previou post kalat jame biolog psycholog wadsworth publish compani belmont skarda explain behavior bring brain back inquiri skarda freeman brain make chao order make sens world behavior and brain scienc petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	conscious part kev strike back scott sauyet ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu wrote apr nott kevin anthoni kax nott write firstli not impress abil algorithm great solv problem onc method work not work method crossword exampl delet you heard neural network read and overcom your object peopl work neural network and read thi newsgroup kevin you achiev and you expect not that nn will solv such problem show that not hard you come mechan model conscious dualism solut dennett recent put dead hors petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	conscious part kev strike back articl apr ousrvr oulu kempmp phoenix oulu petri pihko write kevin anthonei kax nott wrote thi post brilliant insan brilliant exampl introspect object materialist theori conscious diplomat realiz fight occam razor thi argument explain feel mind firstli not impress abil algorithm great solv problem onc method work not work method specif exampl solv numer crossword not simpl sum and insert answer type hard effici you figur varieti trick that you can program comput puzzl you work trick and program into comput you can obfusc trick and write program that uncov can trick form discov thi mean that idea will pre program into brain thi somewhat that brain ultim encod chromosom worth genet materi isn us thi bring environ into equat can thi air you object perform action and don anywher algorithm anticip and conclus draw experi problem algorithm instabl not algorithm surviv you larg portion code peopl surviv stroke complet haywir side effect patient remark stabl neuron perfectli healthi peopl dy alarm rate can algorithm surviv randomli corrupt bit code problem sticki question colour replac colour sensat your choic materialist viewpoint that product kind chemic reaction usual product such reaction energi chemic colour mixtur thi comput won colour chemistri algorithm that see colour select advantag equival that doesn shouldn output each algorithm equival circumst colour such view nonsolut mind act observ feel pain and pleasur and issu command brain interact occur bit idl specul rememb correctli quantum mechan consist wavefunct two process act process call unitari evolut govern schroeding equat and second process call thing such collaps wavefunct state vector reduct and mysteri occur measur take place precis that occur occur effect abruptli chang wavefunct envisag interact wavefunct and imaginit call part reason assum that that wavefunct case part simpli wavefunct note that explain specul that mind part link conscious and that never linear superposit altern explain for thi idea brain suppos access part sinc thi specul that won matter main point that place for mind physic back nice pad cell that you petri kevin anthonei kax nott don you read sig file
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak dan schaertel wrote life death and resurect christ document histor fact not standard histori care back thi san li apologist fond major event life jesu christ fortold hundr year neat trick not prophesi aren even prophesi prayer and comment torah quit context xian start ly begin into sceptic heart you can not you sincer effort attitud you arrog ass aren you trust not church and particip activ you wrong haven trust that doesn exist you will die for you believ will die for and don looni waco point not die for believ point make that son bitch die for believ doesn tire cretin tirad peter dame and damn proud don forget sing heaven for will wait ain laugh sinner cry saint sinner fun good die young
alt.atheism	cult religion articl bfe aurora engr latech edu rai engr latech edu bill rai wrote jame thoma green jgreen trumpet calpoli edu wrote conclus can shown that essenti logic argument differenti cult religion challeng produc distinct clear and can easili knock thi religion cult stood test time religion cult that opt peopl compartment irration peter don forget sing heaven for will wait ain laugh sinner cry saint sinner fun good die young
alt.atheism	gulf war and peac nik articl rusnew manti mathew mathew manti write jbrown batman bmd trw write problem peac nik not bad and unconscion not argument problem peac nik held ideal and stai conflict issu deal nation defens not will legitim hold point view milit and time resort violenc name peac yawn anoth wing wasp imagin oppress minor perhap camil paglia person attack not argument problem peac nik stai conflict issu bet you wouldn you love deliber misinterpret person statement cut part statement blunt thrust sentenc never address issu extreemist peac peopl not hold true ideal make you that sit back noth defens issu and let peopl you make decis ideal ignor challeng ignor challeng that extreemist for peac tend quit insist that accept ideal for world and even turn quit violent wit chicago summer mathew paranoia assum that argu viewpoint masturb gun ammo fire oven isn hot mccullou whippl wisc edu never program and drink beer time doesn work
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war long articl optima arizona edu sham arizona edu shamim zvonko moham write thi unmitig bilg jim brown possess wing token diplomat altern includ sanction ineffect decemb nation secur advis zbigniew brzezinski told senat committe that sanction cost iraq million per dai and that multin coalit time world iraq suggest lose badli dai defi demand commun nation won dai take life loss life fcnl washington newslett understand that number decept reason that monei cost oil sale for part iraq not allow sell oil thing initi sanction surviv and btw reason brought blanket bomb germani you bemoan iraqi civilian casualti deplor blanket bomb institut bomb wasn accur hit industri militari target decis method that time gulf war precis bomb norm bullshit gulf massacr ordnanc us smart rest that regular dumb iron bomb and stuff you forgotten that pentagon definit success patriot launch missil clear launch tube damag that success intercept scud defin patriot and scud pass each area sky heard figur closer won quibbl your figur drop carpet bomb region occupi enemi troop drop lot bomb sorti and us clock not mention smaller aircraft dumb munit patriot proxim fuse adjust figur for number patriot kill derivit that figur not fluke pentagon work such stuff anoth part dod statement precis bomb norm true area civilian close target drop tonnag bomb popul region explain figur and that smart stuff hit follow that mean thi smart arsen miss thi figur below figur accur you explain discrep that figur and figur intern organ figur place hit ratio close higher your your figur bomb miss plane and bomb never hit target whether not bomb drop such method us time lie statist stori hundr thousand iraqi civilian dead plain bunk prove sourc that that date civilian death count excus mean collater damag never sourc that claim such figur post sourc reliabl can judg mccullou whippl wisc edu never program and drink beer time doesn work
alt.atheism	david coresh god morn show todai show david koresh lawyer interview that interview flip letter that david koresh wrote letter written hebrew bottom page koresh adonai that thi mean david write thi
alt.atheism	smullyan for dai articl tpi pepper east sun geoff east sun geoff arnold sun bo coast top write thi raymond smullyan quot big for sig deserv post imho big for sig keith home billdboard sig file ryan privat note jennif fakult thi post sarcasm cycnic ironi humor awar thi possibl and not confus and thrown for loop doubt assum owner thi account not responsibl for your confus result your inabl recogn read your risk jennif
alt.atheism	christian moral articl apr nott kax nott kevin anthonei write articl eastman dp nasa kodak write fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you differ believ exist entiti and love that entiti god show directli that exist and free choic whether love not doesn kevin anthonei kax nott don you read sig file kevin make good point and that theist miss that belief dieti not necessarili coupl agreement love that dieti anoth bit convinc belief guess standard argumet onc you god you god love and you will choos love wasnt wide accept and assert laughabl regard adam adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw understand anoth fear your comprehens gandalf
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak dan schaertel write articl ousrvr oulu kempmp phoenix oulu petri pihko write dan schaertel dp nasa kodak wrote love god love seduc you rape rape simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic abil reason spec creation ultim you reli simpli your reason you will never you your argument type you onc you atheist sincer and believ for year eventu honest admit that had live virtual realiti christian and noth work for not for doesn give insight into god truth religion depend sole individu individu creat and sinc christian fail show life our not attempt even attract learn you accept that you don thi mean learn you accept that you don learn you accept don thi not prefer learn unwis swallow you read suppos write book tell great invis pink unicorn help daili problem you accept thi sinc you can whether true not ask you swallow fact jesu warn you question you beleiv you learn histori class for that matter school mean peopl told you and you don want swallow will nerver for told truth not bit evid point fact that militari conflict vietnam year ago supernatur dieti live fact that jesu warn mean noth warn big deal life death and resurect christ document histor fact thi not true two choic life and death scantili document and last total malarki bibl and that total circular perhap us imagin ignor will address thi and refer you plenti document you learn you choos and not argu that georg washington myth never live don proof told major event life jesu christ fortold hundr year neat trick thi noth disgust christian attempt manipul interpret testament fill sign for come christ refer stick bit wood autmoat interpret cross miscarriag philolog into sceptic heart you can not you sincer effort attitud you you trust not church and particip activ you will die for you believ sinc skeptic heart good into irreconcil differ christian glorifi exactli tend despis snub trust belief faith knowledg lucki dai and happen think god time enkephalin associ thi sign god will feel and will trust know religos not that conclus arriv sudden afflict will die for believ not question suchg attitud reflect correct healthi moral not thing reflect fanatic for exampl and case express simpl selfish adam adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw understand anoth fear your comprehens gandalf
alt.atheism	soc religion christian found thi gem don interest comment commit christian that battl problem that roman talk save faith not deed hebrew and jame that faith deed useless you fool you that believ fulli believ life total lead and not god roman that person save faith bit that god prefer cold doesn condemn lukewarm christian and believ god doesn make attempt live bibl opinion that you save faith alon not you taught roman can squar mind teach jame conjunct lukewarm christian spat can thi bother christ will adam adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw understand anoth fear your comprehens gandalf
alt.atheism	colleg atheist articl apr nuscc nu cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan write andrew cmu edu nanci ann miller write nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye write read articl poll student ivi leagu school report that student indentifi atheist thi lot higher gener popul reason for thi discrep intellig younger thi wave futur figur for gener popul last heard american reincarn can quot stat don stat read gener that smoke and belief supernatur occultish garbag rise guess that eas idea and thought commun colleg campu world theist forc contend and listen atheist and theist religion bound chang belief year run funni countri work round univ life stress for peopl rememb asian popul xtian prei peopl run thi interest thing principl sort philosoph idea gener and test colleg year whether idea christian atheist doesn matter atheist intellig unenlighten tan chade meng wise man tell wife that understand singapor cmtan iss nu fool prove regard adam adam john cooper verili laugh weakl thought good simpli acoop macalstr edu had claw understand anoth fear your comprehens gandalf
alt.atheism	thought christian book thi liar lunat real thing last time time turn can debat straight face perhap for complet ridicul gather post last two time thi and email can you that book publish thi vaniti press recomend visit your local christian bookstor and becom awar stuff sell quit interest stuff intelectu level chick pamphelet common fundi bookstor section you hate wiccan pagan cathol mormon rock musician and not fanat hate for love god even interest watch peopl frequent such place scari peopl hear voic god tell want hear not christian lock thi feder monei reduc mental institut reagan administr had religi leader christian jesu fifteen year time for good behavior york state senat jame donovan capitol punish alan bewar touch wire instant death found thi will prosecut
alt.atheism	mean human parsif articl apr ucla edu brad pierc pierc ucla edu write bedrock spiritu unreason belief that reson theologi full reason even base fals premis etc etc ill defin term spirit transcendent mind conscious ultim realiti soul elan vital etc mean sadli adher spiritu movement seldom satisfi hold mean conscious mind thi harmless illog inexor drawn belief illog primaci spiritu and transcendent materi and empir primaci pipe dream jabberwocki and illus fact scienc and reason sinc for instanc behaviourist psycholog pipe dream sure major purpos scienc psycholog understand work mind creatur feel thought percept process and phenomena manifest mundan matter energi space and time albeit not supplic god not atheist manifest mundan sound transcendent fact matter energi space and time measur mysteri concept atheist your reduction cast not true faith richard wilson logica industri
alt.atheism	christian moral acoop mac macalstr edu turin turambar depart utter miseri dan schaertel articl quot you learn you choos and not argu that georg washington myth never live don proof told major event life jesu christ fortold hundr year neat trick thi noth disgust christian attempt manipul interpret testament fill sign for come christ refer stick bit wood autmoat interpret cross miscarriag philolog worthwhil point that appel rabbi jesu had full grasp contemporari scriptur mat jesu saith never read scriptur mat jesu answer and err not know mat scriptur power god thi wonder posit fulfil prophesi and mat scriptur fulfil mat that mat thi that scriptur mat prophet fulfil discipl mat forsook and fled book compris refer scriptur had not access matter toni
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alt.atheism	gulf war death penalti polit atheist mark mccullough mccullou snake wisc edu wrote detail built chemic plant alteer baghdad plant intend us aid iraqi infrastructur not exampl sell weapon sound nitpick refus sell valuabl part that build infrastructur dual us technolog contend that thi case and case sale pesticid compani that knew full that us for product chemic weapon even that not offici state purpos person don that let iran conquer iraq good thing for that matter for reason you state hypocrisi and claim not iraq that make angri fact that usa interfer see fit interest duti interven requir thi demonstr failur east timor and region destabilis usa approach thing reserv uncessari number civillian casualit for wholli wrong reason and hand creat situat that affect militari action iraq not suggest and ridicul assert simpli indic usa previous aid iraq intel manufactur techniqu that natur appar data orgin satellit doubt that iraq raw data troop concentr aaron turner aaron minster york
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war long shamim zvonko moham sham arizona edu wrote bullshit gulf massacr ordnanc us smart rest that regular dumb iron bomb and stuff you forgotten that pentagon definit success patriot launch missil clear launch tube damag that success intercept scud defin patriot and scud pass each area sky and that smart stuff hit follow that mean thi smart arsen miss us full figur thi includ ton bomb drop and number cluster bomblet munit us had heard laser guid weapon hit unpreced rate success iron weapon hit unpreced rough estim thi mean ton bomb drop aircraft ton miss not proport thi drop baghdad troop concentr iraq and kuwait tonnag drop cluster munit mrl round and artilleri round napalm and fuel air explos us rememb told that weapon mass destruct such fae naughti
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alt.atheism	gulf war sell arm mark mccullough mccullou snake wisc edu wrote heard arm sale saudi arabia such grave mistak sell saudi arabia weapon you claim that shouldn sell weapon countri straightforward answer saudi arabia oppress regim that recent interf politc newli renunifi yemen includ assasin and border incurs that will invad unluckili for yemen not popular west manag put polit differ reunif and west effect lost half north client state aaron turner
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write delet stuff andrew wrt atheist myth bill andrew myth refer convolut counterfeit athiest creat make religion absurd counterfeit atheist hmmmm cheap knock off true atheist religion demonstr absurd constantli person ask happi point thi approach religion includ christain ration manner and debat claim state atheist concoct outrag parodi and hold religi account for belief don accur oxymor term reason atheist man your pill wrt atheist you make such contenti statement back read new time and time hash belief relig doctrin hold debat make statement accur oxymor term reason atheist respons tammi pretti reason nai even polit accus myth flyin good exampl read post acoord mean refer christian doctrin understand speak for you purpos post present basic overview christain doctrin sinc german your refer origin articl you such excel job spew dogma that implic pretti clear wrong thi case jeez misunderstand statement wrap thi thing you read post care read faq wouldn thi convers you had written your post care faq wouldn thi discuss gem evid delet human reason come back exist god thi discuss not jeez point thi you thi discuss not instanc human reason your implic fals thi interest truth determin polit correct content grant extrem unhip wasp male and european contempt thought thi kind dialogu purpos truth thing rememb oxymoron reasonalbl atheist and understand lame can you truth thing read faq carefulli report your find purpos find truth thing and stop impress your misguid imag atheist piss bill
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alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl voinnr lynx unm edu cfaehl vesta unm edu chri faehl write myth refer convolut counterfeit athiest creat make religion absurd counterfeit atheist hmmmm cheap knock off true atheist theist disguis event don creat religi parodi actual religion absurd mand mdeep thought mby jack handei mif you parachut and your parachut doesn open and your friend watch you fall funni gag pretend you swim
alt.atheism	atheism survei research atheism part involv field research net survei direct reader thi group intend data basi atheist belief each and you fill and mail back mtabbott unix amherst edu structur question that can answer varieti wai vari amount detail give succinct answer you type for hour detail you want give mean great import for broad base individu even minim respons noth short survei you answer question elabor secondli hope question don come obnoxi that phrase convinc you exist god impli that seminari student intent prove you ignor godless heathen fact not exist higher power us god question locut ideolog easier repeat deiti higher power time tend us lot anthropolog buzzword belief system you contend that you don belief skeptic understand you mean such buzzword abbrevi for unweildi phrase requir precis idea across lastli fill you can detail you can and send research and you you place your belief spectrum theism agnostic weak atheism strong atheism feel free elabor your specif belief religi tradit you rais you exist god question presum that answer thi you atheist never theist you modifi question answer somewhat your your famili involv and you start doubt tenet you rais and your final break your belief occur realiz that thi ongo process event per case describ detail you contact atheist you had and and your convers atheism your involv alt atheism count net discuss affect your belief extent you atheist influenc you your belief you come your belief discuss independ mean combin two mean you convinc that your belief acquir wholli ration mean proof exist god etc perhap part mean alien mainstream religion etc extent you feel you understand univers your belief phenomena univers and human exist physic phenomena problem exist evil human affair you feel adequ dealt your belief and lack explanatori method for you question chang your belief convinc you exist god convinc you plausibl god exist and dynam your belief constantli chang stai for time you involv career educ scienc extent you scienc influenc your belief issac asimov claim that scienc secular religion and that scientist real sens priesthood you pursuit scienc quasi religi base even religi element thi survei intend data broad rang individu narrow field small group peopl idea and histori you will basi thi survei write you find you and your belief not fine your fill survei alon great feel free contact you question thi data you addit ask mark abbott mtabbott unix amherst
alt.atheism	american and evolut free ockham razor insid delai respond due confer paper deadlin panic articl qsnqqinn senat bedfellow mit edu bob thnext mit edu robert singleton write articl apr dc warwick simon dc warwick simon clippingdal write alarm amount agreement delet made statement ockum razor experi physic for info baysian statist interest and didn follow your proof question two hypothes and complic definit mean that complic isn fact come complement and axiom sens necessarili complic for and split hair that irrespect subject impress complic hold equal and you point simpl matter show and preferd that consist data can you elabor thi mean that like observ oper oper thi impli that observ not provid inform discrimin respect possibl that and oper differ reduc differ unknown and unhelp prior probabl and and and equal consist data that observ doesn give pointer oper case and that prior probabl order don actual valu and thi deploi razor throw such real world isn clear cut and dry can 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that us word theism make predict specif event can that god such and such such and such happen god will such and such for can never priori can not even thi for set thi don your us probabl assign probabl hold scienc positivist criteria cannot measur even principl probabl not applic hypothesi such case theistic and atheist for exampl measur you don don analog prior probabl deduc that updat multipli for fair coin hypothesi uniti and that multipli for two head coin hypothesi greater uniti you don initi valu run estim clear that larg number observ fair coin approach and two head coin approach uniti you whether larger for observ and thi follow assumpt that event render not not and equal baysian statist reli seri observ hypothesi isn amen observ and even for statement that amen observ observ not relev sequenc observ chosen care curiou type observ you mind theism and atheism observ you doesn matter affect reason provid that observ count appear god exampl thi demonstr efficaci prayer verac revel statement for gener count predict theism question that prayer answer that miracl happen interpret quot god exist mean thi predict for such distinguish atheist hypothesi predict that thi stuff not happen for such theism not make claim that for such that theism doesn quick had common languag you that exist god you mean notion that deiti describ bibl and christian interact univers claim agent agre thi care thi not make claim chang can import shift emphasi sinc belief cannot conclud for such downgrad interact interact sinc interact impli falsifi agre misplac don theism make predict not understand you mean predict you explain you mean thi word explain bear mind that thi isn central requir theism that not make predict appear god will never happen atheism point that quantum mechan doesn make thi predict differ that and atheism not form partit predict includ such statement prayer efficaci impli you stat you will find that prayer efficaci prayer not efficaci verili you thi gener not pass till thing fulfil don problem misunderstand persist observ thi stuff not happen consist consist explain bayesian stat post even god exist unfalsifi that problem for argument that you number observ infin falsifi asymptot btw not argument that requir infinit number observ valid that part argument not valid exist human can never make infinit number measur and conclus that reili thi don accept valid that fine don claim that theism fals that finit number observ suggest that and that continu observ suggest and renorm stuff delet bayesian stat post assum that theism unfalsifi finit number observ relev quot import assumpt that observ compat theist hypothesi and not atheist hypothesi and falsifi atheism call appear god thi not liter observ requir for explan that god exist will count observ assum compat hypothes thi leav theism unfalsifi and atheism falsifi singl observ such appear god problem thi for falsifi make predict that not hypothesi falsifi atheism word oposit theism theism asert belief and 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concept god for true onc open posibl that wrong give exampl predict statment god not exist that can true heal miricl thi can principl never determin case peopl recov and heal doctor and for reason situat fact happen consist theistic hypothesi support such hypothesi agre not inconsist atheist hypothesi can predict god not exist that isn thi type miss raptur will not happen octob raptur falsifi atheism satisfact had happen failur happen not falsifi theism specif predict phenomenon requir exist god for explan will observ that sum thing bob singleton bob thnext mit edu cheer simon simon clippingdal simon dc warwick depart comput scienc tel univers warwick fax coventri
alt.atheism	thought healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write tammi maddi trim heali you practic you get hang give you nicknam for size tammi lucki heali tammi pass falafel heali tammi heali tammi learn heali maddi never post hausmann maddi hausmann madhau netcom centigram commun corp san jose california kid don thi home rememb post profession
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write mand mdeep thought mby jack handei mif you parachut and your parachut doesn open and your friend watch you fall funni gag pretend you swim you fall open graviti not good idea law dean kaflowitz
alt.atheism	religion islam author women scott sauyet ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu wrote work for horror histori claim that christian had crusad inquisit deni awesom power that come faith absolut you twist reason statement that religion never solitari evil into unreason statement that religion had evil impact histori that absurd scott thi paragraph willingli amend earlier statement sinc your point made and gener accur thi last part slip into hyperbol sinc discuss object such gener don feel you haven post maddi save write bill
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl idi fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write you that islam bank bcci you care explain that hope islam bank bcci you call childish propagandist obviou reason make jump bcci islam bank associ islam bank muslim ownership thi case hope that bcci not islam bank and reason gener islam bank islam bank stereotyp bad bad thi case hope that bcci not islam bank you bosnia tap thi case hope that bcci not islam bank jon
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl dba dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write delet conner bobbi mozumd myth perform artist real moslem crackpot provocateur you and read mind don you side note isn tell that cannot for bobbi mozund firm believ provocateur that religi belief that insight comment time peopl bill projector conner complain that post parodi jon
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior articl new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write ioh fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl qgm new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write thi doesn want kill you can that decid sound you confus want and moral jon you mean your idea appli kill you that decid mean want not automat translat into that not translat that for you repli that kill you that decid that mean that for you want translat into doesn translat that for jon
alt.atheism	societ basi for moral articl apr cnsvax uwec edu nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye write you ask back repli cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb moral come societ accept follow that expect follow notion societ mandat moral pardon extrem couldn murder your brother and that exercis right felt good didn want forc moral don follow your moral that moral subject each person entitl moral attitud mine not priori correct els thi not mean that judg anoth basi moral standard entitl moral sens tell rest societi entitl pass law spell punish for behavior that offens major your last statement author crimin not behavior moral realiz that immor and not care not moral system immor for lai claim altern moral system sincer belief and intern consist your last statement thing and belief terror can sincer and frighteningli consist sociopath lack innat moral sens and incap behav moral hitler believ that action moral judg immor standard hold that moral subject not mean that excus murder troubl thi sound fine come hitler not mean comparison offenc david substitut social minor your choic for sociopath hitler and murder logic differ you hitler sum frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	faith and dogma repli tgk toronto edu todd kellei light happen waco chest faith and dogma danger agre philosoph cannot christian philosoph can chang mind christian cannot due natur faith and dogma present religion hard for understand quit profession scientist and philosoph theist religion good qualiti encourag benevol and philanthropi intoler and superstit not that balanc not detriment wouldn nice secular humanist david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write not posit sinc noth situat that not estim qualifi head ass bob never accus you your head your ass take quit time deal accus head ass accus origin poster benedikt impair insult gregg resort li articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write you flesh bit miss full grandeur content virtu blind atheism you difficulti light you your head your ass suggest make thi not case post that origin answer not that head necessarili ass meaningless and pointless not insinu benedikt
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl fpv horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write delet point moral essenc person opinion ideal found motiv such nonetheless person fact that real larg lot peopl agre moral question sometim even for reason not make moral object make human somewhat alik opinion that moral question can good for evolut social speci and real larg lot nice phrase peopl agre that footbal desk suppos logic differ two perhap you can explain differ sinc you rest delet that fallaci and not time point for you never set moral peopl agre unlik footbal you conveni ignor that not agre tghe moral analog not hold can expect suffici peopl agre footbal you give evid that vanish number disagre set moral you give evid not proof proof evolv test your theori absolut moral compet theori argument you reiter you never answer object evid that you preacher benedikt
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost articl jcinnt lynx unm edu cfaehl vesta unm edu chri faehl write correct hard atheism faith can faith weak atheism had that benedikt
alt.atheism	theism and fanat islam genocid articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write theism strongli correl irrat belief absolut irrat belief absolut strongli correl fanat delet theism correl fanatic that fanat caus theism that theism lead fanat point theism increas chanc fanat argu that fanat tend theism for exampl loook time histori theism domin ideolog invalid that conclus that that basic mechan imo influenc stalin for that matter ayn rand invalid your assumpt that theism factor consid bogu that theism not factor for fanat point that theism factor gullibl blind obedi author lack sceptic and reliabl indic and danger peopl sourc fanatic thing cynic manipul gullibl precis that claim you support note that field theism leader brand theism and precis theist tend fanatic grant you tar theist thi brush bigotri not reason argument and read warm for censorship and restrict religi freedom read anim farm that straw man and discuss you repeat read written not theism lead fanat and not fanat caus theism point correl and come innat featur theism gullibl and that forbid religion anoth your straw men interest that you noth offer defin irrat belief ration that reason irrat belief belief that not base reason discuss for long time charlei wingat point that belief violat reason and anoth that process that not lend ration analysi not reliabl inform glare paradox argument that reason base reason circular and argument not base reason irrat that bogu refer not circular and sinc evalu us ration system allow your argument silli prove mathemat statement mathemat and mathemat therfor circular part second statement contain inform you don belief belief strong theism and strong atheism your statement not gener true second part your sentenc patent fals counterexampl axiomat datum not lend ration analysi assum reliabl inform process us obtain speak religi system contradictori definit god axiomat datum lend ration analysi you refut fallaci discuss axiom choic and can evalu axiom larger system deriv exist deriv you want that can test consist and set axiom you compar evid theist for claim strength demand make thing not irrat antir can agre thi you specif theism that theism necessarili antir requir proof suspect you not traditon definit god person supernatur entiti object effect thi world connect moral and world work affin fanat easili true noth work hypothesi belief work hypothesi don understand thi can you formalis your argument person believ system becuas sound nice that not make true work hypothesi content that true and that work hypothesi test evalu evid for dismiss believ wrong wast time not depend content amalekit idolat protest kill thi can interest effect answer question absolut set moral peopl agre agre footbal footbal benedikt
alt.atheism	islam author women articl racm darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write can recal claim that god make act particlar that you attempt manufactur contradict world creator god moment creat world and sayi that you can recal even below your usual standard argu argument base quit usual theistic assumpt god perfect god know god set rule rule don work for reason omnisci god advanc delet that defin contadictorili cannot exist ask you exist depend grammar you can that poorli defin that insuffici decid confus not question grammar question model discuss wonder time you not post thi group contradictorili defin not point instanc realiti inform definit that find contradictori attribut essenti not that attribut not for can conclud that not exist your point that reason for phenomenon belief object belief lead rat nest unnecessari complex you impli your version thi altern that quit predict coin fall predict happen head tail tail tail head tail head tail and dismiss rest unnecessari complex evid for easi understand explan human god read manwatch desmond morri benedikt
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war long jbrown batman bmd trw write don regret fact that sometim militari decis made affect live innoc peopl regret circumst make decis and regret suffer caus decis afraid kill you don worri love christian guarante that will regret fact that kill you won regret actual kill hadn interven allow hussein kuwait appeas you hear advoc such action you set strawman not set strawman you want argu war logic altern hussein kuwait fals dichotomi diplomat altern includ sanction ineffect that weren even attempt didn support hitler dream conquest not democrat vote for polici nsdap elect and that last chanc german peopl vote matter suffer rest thi bother you you want bother that thousand innoc peopl maim kill bomb end clear that such bomb world full evil and circumst not perfect innoc suffer due wrong action regret that and that set thing that thi happen gulf war didn send bomber east timor aren send bomber not savior world can polic each and countri that decid destruct invad anoth that oil that make success commun strateg posit relief tibet east timor place don that get forc east timor harder get iraq tibetan peopl round tortur and execut amnesti intern recent report that tortur widespread china aren stop fact activ suck trade freeli stop and support for not agre present polici suck you put agre that deplor fine write your congressman and presid clinton china statu favour nation come for renew june point that shouldn offer favour trade term such despic regim doubt will happen clinton keener trade sanction europ unbeliev comment rodnei king case delet media not total monolith even prevail liber bia program such macneil lehrer new hour give balanc and fair report new even conserv sourc you hurrah for rush idea kill file you end atheist argu kill innoc peopl you suppos christian argu that kill innoc peopl long you guilti didn that good thing kill innoc peopl end don live perfect world and perfect solut resist tyranni innoc peopl side suffer and die didn unfortun sometim end justifi mean you criticis moral relativ past argu that posit judg moral alli action end war you not such posit you moral relativist tire misunderstand moral relativ mean that object standard moral doesn mean you can judg peopl moral christ bike time hammer that into your head your christian love your absolut moral quick you discard suit you ivan stang jesu puke dai will stand jesu and give account word and action even thi discours thi forum understand full ramif that and prepar don that you can make claim not atheist don you jesu long hair lunat peac nik not and btw reason brought blanket bomb germani you bemoan iraqi civilian casualti deplor blanket bomb institut bomb wasn accur hit industri militari target decis method that time gulf war precis bomb norm point make big stink rel civilian casualti that result spite precis bomb civilian proportion and quantit di blanket bomb for you turn that opinion matter consist that condemn bomb dresden you bit glib your explan blanket bomb polici you make sound aim for militari target and destroi civilian build door understand that not case aim deliber civilian target order massiv damag and inspir terror german peopl civilian suffer civilian suffer thi war iani histori come war falkland fresh peopl mind that sort propaganda isn fool stori hundr thousand iraqi civilian dead plain bunk bunk lost servicemen year and major directli involv fight and million casualti russian suffer surpris didn lose men that you turn late mathew
alt.atheism	gulf war sell arm jbrown batman bmd trw write mathew agre thi crux your posit isn that shouldn support hussein and sold arm fight iran agre and agre ruthlessli hunt sell arm hussein and deal invad kuwait sit back and sold arm suppos us bad for kuwait sit back and let thing not correct mistak destroi hussein militari potenti move agre your statement reagan and bush made grave error judgment sell arm hussein happen that entir point last month john major hail great victori that had person secur sale arm saudi arabia month sold jet fighter indonesian govern that busi kill east timores oop made boo boo clean mistak and make mistak that can not deliber thi suspicion reinforc fact that mistak extrem profit for decrepit economi reliant arm sale not gulf war you abhor and west shortsighted sell arm hussein ultim made war inevit thought terribl mathew
alt.atheism	gulf war death penalti polit atheist mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write look back thi and ask question peopl and inform had claim and you pooh pooh not sold iraq arm land mine mention countri kuwait inform hard prove you claim that sold inform prove inform hard prove almost sell inform that fact classifi and you can prove neat dismiss can prove shadow doubt you admit can never prove your satisfact stick squar circl mathew
alt.atheism	gulf war and peac nik jbrown batman bmd trw write problem peac nik not bad and unconscion not argument problem peac nik held ideal and stai conflict issu deal nation defens not will legitim hold point view milit and time resort violenc name peac yawn anoth wing wasp imagin oppress minor perhap camil paglia not argument problem peac nik stai conflict issu bet you wouldn you love make you that sit back noth defens issu and let peopl you make decis ideal mathew
alt.atheism	strong weak atheism acoop mac macalstr edu turin turambar depart utter miseri write that faq modifi defin strong atheist not assert nonexist god assert that nonexist god word mathew
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan vers perri dsinc jim perri write sinc thi line discuss rest readership read thi book your thought bought copi satan vers talk british govern ban noth interest book make illeg sit shelf unread perhap round pile lem bulgakov and zamyatin don find time read fact interest thing can find time for manag bore didn sleep manag mathew atheism anti viru softwar for mind
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bnr rashid write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger wrote made clear claim that khomeini advoc view contradit qur and argument for thi thi that can check suffici interest khomeini dead can respond anoth poster support khomeini respond obfuscationist sophistri thi quit clear atheist suscept religionist mode obfuscation don mind thi exampl obfusc condemn even your basic fact straight you want exampl back and your previou post you manag your fact wrong fatwa and khomeini suppos infal shouldn mind sound you proceed sort obfusc you accus preceed statement understand that made claim clear regard issu twelv imam and khomeini suppos claim infal hear your seemingli knowledg claim that khomeini made such claim withdrawn that portion statement that claim receiv such respons infal twelv imam noth obfuscationist claim made receiv such clear respons twelv imam abstrus refer unusu metaphys natur and such opaqu concept us peopl camoflag baseless posit matter theologi sort concept us christian church pervert religion salaam laikum alaikum wassalam gregg
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr bnr rashid write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger wrote read thi group benefit know deviant view articul not true view khomeini basic principl islam that muslim reader thi group will simpl basic islam such view face and not contradict basic islam subtl such issu and sect exist islam explicitli proscrib qur discuss fine start thread call infal islam and move discuss thi illumin make suggest arab word technic becom us defin for atheist not terribl familiar note that initi refer khomeini heret for understood claim reject you sinc person infal withdraw thi basi for such statement condition retain thi refer regard khomeini advocaci thesi infal call twelv imam clear conflict qur that place twelv imam categori behavior and exampl higher that muhammad that qur show that prophet fallibl appear your abstrus theolog statment natur twelv imam place metaphys categori remaind human except muhammad verg sin associ salam laikum alaikum wassalam gregg
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl fpv horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write delet point moral essenc person opinion ideal found motiv such nonetheless person fact that real larg lot peopl agre moral question sometim even for reason not make moral object make human somewhat alik opinion that moral question can good for evolut social speci and real larg lot nice phrase peopl agre that footbal desk suppos logic differ two perhap you can explain differ sinc you rest delet that fallaci and not time point not fallaci note supermajor disinterest peopl agre fundamant not ethic benedikt differ that and peopl agre trivial observ for you never set moral peopl agre unlik footbal you conveni ignor that not agre tghe moral analog not hold exampl peopl agre and explain peopl will agre that freedom valuabl state that such condit for object ethic assert and that talk isn point talk ethic thi can agre can expect suffici peopl agre footbal you give evid that vanish number disagre set moral you give not moral ethic can past valu cogent object freedom exampl that peopl aren talk thing answer that valuabl not and want thi implic true evid not proof proof evolv test your theori absolut moral compet theori garbag that not proof argument you reiter you never answer object evid that you preacher name that fallaci frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	studi book mormon tue apr gmt cfairman leland stanford edu carolyn jean fairman cjf agrino enkidu mic andr grino brandt ask mormon cjf don person independ sudi cjf thing cjf write mention event place histor person discov archeologist cjf amus thing bom claim that cjf civil exist north america aroun mystic plate cjf found not us steel and metal had cjf lot war found metal sword cjf and trace civil nativ american talk head archeolog dept onc colleg and topic mormon archeolog that mormon church big give grant archeologist prove that nativ american lost tribe israel and such bunk archeologist shake head knowingli listen grant and real archeolog mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	scienc and theori per thread scienc and creation start dabbl into book call christian and natur scienc moreland question that had come comment state that god not necessarili religi term us scientif term that give explan for event theori proven scientif fact point can quot section vagu exampl gave quark and continent plate explan scienc part theori that not measur and can quantifi measur test etc mac michael cobb and won rais tax middl univers illinoi class pai for program champaign urbana bill clinton debat cobb alexia li uiuc edu can explain chesterton
alt.atheism	ag reason read rushdi wed apr gmt sandvik newton appl kent sandvik thi stori kent archetyp finn that live bai area and purchas thoma pain ag reason thi man drive stacei book inc cleanlight place dalton place ask for thi book educ american book store assist ask check thriller section that book not publish receiv book place assist bluntli that don such author that not live author don copi book such life and time america year revolut sigh don feel bad search for copi bookstor habit mine for two year spend lot time brows bookstor and and us and not onc copi pick phone and order darn thing come thi america and found father and carri book you can find common sens that requir read for colleg find hole wall bookstor owner that carri two copi that haven back sinc don tell truth not sigh mccreari edm twisto compaq not for laughter tao
alt.atheism	scienc and theori articl new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write exampl gave quark and continent plate sound god us describ almost past come understand underpin and credit god not understood element author includ quark and tecton drift guess that describ perceiv pattern star sky hero immort god kinda sound earth creation that life evolv common ancestor caus that initi common ancestor hear anoth debat causeless event explan scienc part theori that not measur and can quantifi measur test etc mac michael cobb frank doss state word opinion and not reflect opinion attitud polici employ affilli organ
alt.atheism	theism and fanat islam genocid articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl tqo ook horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write theism strongli correl irrat belief absolut irrat belief absolut strongli correl fanat delet theism correl fanatic that fanat caus theism that theism lead fanat point theism increas chanc fanat argu that fanat tend theism for exampl loook time histori theism domin ideolog invalid that conclus that that basic mechan imo influenc stalin for that matter ayn rand invalid your assumpt that theism factor consid bogu that theism not factor for fanat point that theism factor that your claim back your argument belief strongli correl fanatic belief factor fanatic true and utterli useless note thi belief not belief god tire back read statement read conspicu absenc evid point fallaci wrong analog believ inform person theist hold inform correl theist and fanat higher that belief and fanat special featur theistic belief truth blatant assert evid gullibl blind obedi author lack sceptic and reliabl indic and danger peopl sourc fanatic thing cynic manipul gullibl precis that claim you support note that field theism leader you that you incred naiv you frank dwyer live dream world base discuss left such statement matter fact you ignor human natur even start not get easili fool into believ give you benefit doubt prove your statement onu proof you sunshin make you that theist leader thing and anoth thing close opposit practic not restrict theism for almost epidem thi countri for instanc harder for camel pass ey needl cathol church such wealthi land owner church squar inch countri brand theism and precis theist tend fanatic grant you tar theist thi brush bigotri not reason argument and read warm for censorship and restrict religi freedom read anim farm that straw man and discuss you repeat read written not theism lead fanat and not fanat caus theism point correl and come innat featur theism come featur theism common fanatic your last statement simpli isn impli you you sneak innat featur theism word you grope for bogu not theism fanat rest backup for statement correl fanat and theism and specialti theistic belief switch fanat easili take nifti improv theologi truth blatant assert gullibl shit sherlock not talk gullibl theism sinc lot relev case you oppos case you make theism that attract gullibl peopl caus correl and discuss start that statement that theism meaningfulli correl fanat you challeng recal ask for evid correl you speak and that forbid religion anoth your straw men interest that you noth offer read warm that that irrat and bogu tirad and us creat nice split mind excit peopl such found side church wall blah blah blah quit awar that give right protect fanat round peopl fanat never oneself your slur theist pretti fanat quit nice that you impli connect that argument and rise fanat anoth your assert you can defin irrat belief ration that reason irrat belief belief that not base reason discuss for long time charlei wingat point that belief violat reason and anoth that process that not lend ration analysi not reliabl inform glare paradox argument that reason base reason circular and argument not base reason irrat that bogu refer not circular and sinc evalu us ration system allow oval beg question and that allow not ration and you claim ration and anoth your assert proof evid claim hei learn you good risk repeat and hear had that didn hear refut back deal you can us reason demonstr that reason think reason crap won bui you that unusu weak even for you impli that proof depend opinion not accept that triangl won accept pythagora wow that incred insight don prove wrong opinion show that system leav inform claim unreli even absurd statement inform total circular and total useless make thing judg appeal and not inform make you feel good you that good for contain zillion pitfal belief despit contrari evid bogu proof attempt truth blatant assert bogu proof exist god exist ration system not mean that data come logic analysi point that evalu data not contradict logic easili follow that such system not evalu ration evalu that ration system that not ration fallaci that system sinc valid axiom agre that impact possibl demon ala descart thi doesn pars matter consist us ratiion argument show that system consist that isn evalu thi predict not ration not contradict your argument silli prove mathemat statement mathemat and mathemat therfor circular godel silli stream conscious type that suppos mean part second statement contain inform you don belief belief strong theism and strong atheism your statement not gener true second part your sentenc patent fals counterexampl axiomat datum not lend ration analysi assum reliabl inform process us obtain speak religi system contradictori definit god axiomat datum lend ration analysi you refut fallaci discuss axiom choic and can evalu axiom larger system deriv exist deriv you want that can test consist and set axiom you that point peopl wind thi datum reliabl for reason exampl not dream nope evid for trick that choic axiomat basi system difficult possibl interwoven choos that assumpt assumpt that inform system thi alleg evid not defin axiom order defin evalu method for us foundat laid feel that not feel you irrat belief fanat never compar evid theist for claim strength demand make thing not irrat antir can agre thi you specif theism that theism necessarili antir requir proof suspect you not traditon definit god person supernatur entiti object effect thi world connect moral and world work imo belief such god necessarili irrat that not mean that peopl hold principl oppos exercis intellig atheist scientist for exampl don us theism scienc wouldn scienc note that subject data lend scientif treatment prohibit formul object statement ergo noth object fair affin fanat easili true noth work hypothesi belief work hypothesi don understand thi can you formalis your argument person believ system becuas sound nice that not make true work hypothesi content that true and that work hypothesi test evalu evid for dismiss believ wrong wast time not depend content amalekit idolat protest kill thi can interest effect peculiar definit interest show that belief god entail content you speak aren cathol neighbour kill protest for exampl don conjunct assert and jail kill dissent that import and belief god irrelev ax grind exampl your neighbour fallaci that your neighbour don and time exactli that happen nope not fallaci doesn correl you and not irrelev such statement amalekit and idolat holi book note that edit not relev anymor god don err that that messag excus holi book and come had theist genocid order god god easiest excus and highli attract fanat not mention effect interpret fanat can rest believ happen and and god easiest excus frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl apr cnsvax uwec edu nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye write repli frank frank dwyer problem for objectivist determin statu moral truth and method can establish accept that such judgement not report relat naturalist fallaci cannot prove fact natur world thi can avoid two wai leav good undefin sinc claim that not ly touch human undeserv repli good undefin undefin you requir that innat you back subjectiv and beg question below defin good sole term evalu term ditto evalu statement impli judgement part person make incorrect and question beg below thi point objectivist talk evid truth pretti percept that prof flew can deni subjectivist claim that evid mind behold deni that subject object true dichotomi explain thi help don your argument don rest assert that subject object noth compel that dichotomi divid world into subject object event even sensibl causat for exampl event not subject object subject object true dichotomi subject object that statement evid truth not mind behold relativist and compel add that fact that world can quickli shove entireti into subject categori idealist solipsist argument and that thi perfectli good altern set categori subject object event can reduc subject object qualiti logic difficulti and guess deni that evid truth mind behold not left claim that moral judgement true noth moral judgement true thi thing that commonli refer nihil entail that scienc irrepect fact that peopl find arriv relativ subjectiv thi argument beat thi make sens flew argu that thi objectivist wind not subjectivist nihilist believ noth scienc materi revolut and peopl refer ethic nihil subjectivist feel that that remain that moral judgement associ hold moral opinion suggest not true prefer human activ and prefer includ terror that moral opinion not true likewis prefer includ noterror that moral opinion not true choos set prefer includ terrorisim includ noterror reason thi patent absurd and not posit subjectivist point you ditch strawman and repli mike cobb root messag thread societ basi for moral respond btw don intend thi strawman logic entail relativ ethic system valu assum unreal relativist relativ impli frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl minster york cjh minster york write you that physic adam and ev and that human direct decend two human be cain and wive couldn sister didn daughter human genesi and dai adam begat seth hundr year and begat son and daughter felicit chri stuart yeah not wive wive nod appar land develop anoth set god brian
alt.atheism	room for metaphor can and religi write metaphor for life thi sort fiction beowolf deep space idea not limit book screen good stuff you read and rememb that stori you sound buddist brian
alt.atheism	univers and black hole year articl apr iastat edu iastat edu warren vonroeschlaub wrote articl inn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write suppos probe emit radiat constant frequenc black hole closer event horizon red shift increas period longer and longer never stop observ not observ probe reach event horizon detect energi probe decreas wouldn vanish exp never quit reach that kind meant precis observ singl posit event horizon that observ detect probe cross event horizon observ rest respect singular infinit distanc observ close approach will particl finit time peter don forget sing heaven for will wait ain laugh sinner cry saint sinner fun good die young
alt.atheism	asimov stamp battin cyclop iucf indiana edu laurenc gene battin write apart suggest that appear letter column skeptic inquir recent mention asimov commemor stamp thi idea hasn thi happen that great idea start petit religi type snit due asimov atheism atheist stamp mark schnitziu schnitzi eola ucf edu univers central florida
alt.atheism	amus atheist and agnost articl timmbak mcl timmbak mcl ucsb edu bake timmon write nah will encourag peopl learn atheism atheist sleev suspect quit riddl thi god exist earth grovel earth give damm evid you that such creatur exist deserv mild admir sheer hatr for past whichev god you care pick that assum record action correct religon offer bliss bubbl contain realiti seper physic world belief system can leav you such state and can drug god not requir you remov such useless tappestri can you build set moral build societi that extermin don convert eric virus life viru won you delet file you attempt eras file requir you counselor altern
alt.atheism	thought articl rekj darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write jame felder spbach lerc nasa gov wrote logic alert argument incredul hard for you thi doesn mean that isn true liar can pursuas koresh that you cite thi basi great reject christian account thing word madalyn murrei hair face folk silli disbeliev your incredul you admit that fallaci bill suppos for reason that you not god us argument dismiss koresh god you not that koresh son god logic equal that koresh jesu reborn adda wainwright dim atal llanw eczcaw mip nott mae sig werth
alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist articl rlyz darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write thi fascin atheist argu for abort prove atheist doesn mean for abort defend homosexu mean popul control obviou effect homosexu procreat that unlik your statement fact prove that homosexu defend mean popul control atheist you hold belief defend homosexu peopl bodi busi defend equal right human you insist that valu biolog defin valu prove your statement contardictori cannot exist thi case mean atheist suppos prove your statement electron wave electron particl physic proof proof god ancient book that not indic exist omnipot omnipres and your argument christian don exist understand atheist can object war excel mean control popul growth capit punish logic escap and capit punish question proprieti kill punish basi ecomplaint your earlier statement absolut noth your question you post show that athiest not exist your view human christian religion secondli for control popul growth logic that you cannot grasp ignor contracept thi outlaw sometim liter religion sinc can creat follow will die bill adda wainwright dim atal llanw eczcaw mip nott mae sig werth
alt.atheism	you will hell jsn jeremi scott noonan
alt.atheism	you will hell articl apr ncsu edu aiken new ncsu edu wayn nmi aiken write jsn psuvm psu edu wrote you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat leav termin unattend holi templ mass slack ncsu edu us underwear consumpt legal tender box bb countri raleigh warn hoard penni bob not jesu freak post jsn psuvm penn state load hilt bibl banger us vomit and reason left even had group stop plai rock music dine hall year cuz deem satan kampu krusad for khrist peopl run damn place for part liber art depart safe haven wdb rock music dine
alt.atheism	thought articl theros pdx alan olsen fidonet org alan olsen write alan olsen fidonet org alan olsen subject thought date wed apr hous helio usq edu ron hous newsgroup alt atheism organ univers southern queensland bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write want start and that christian shouldn involv bit delet book that jesu liar crazi modern dai koresh rest rant delet thi standard argument for fundi can you spot falici statement argu assumpt that jesu exist not offer real proof that exist thought defend point that jesu exist gui jesu exist didnt you that socrat didnt exist cuz jesu noth hand that surviv plato and record exist record jesu exist includ babylonian talmud gui argument that jesu not exist dead point whether god whether god complet stori flaw write josh mcdowel and prove writer us flaw sourc real sourc not will learn real research believ drivel sold christian bookstor righto dan thi your cornflak book that muhammad liar crazi modern dai mad mahdi reason wouldn liar follow die for lie wouldn peopl liar peopl gather and gather hear son law made sun stand call fool make sun stand niether lunat entir nation drawn crazi doubt fact redicul for exampl drawn mad mahdi fool logic peopl thi sinc wasn liar lunat real thing nice rebut alan
alt.atheism	christian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak write fact god you you for minut you love you you made love you want love you differ believ exist entiti and love that entiti god show directli that exist and free choic whether love not doesn kevin anthonei kax nott don you read sig file
alt.atheism	genocid caus theism evid benedikt roseneau articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write inform that invari your child son daughter and sing santa clau wasn your argument that assum exactli peopl debat disagre premis debat your favorit point that sens challeng onc you good question and not address address your caricatur not favourit point needless length previou out and discuss eric rescorla point respond point give courtesi repli you repeat that point curiou sinc that time made not that repetit impli your inabl understand you question give you answer thi case answer true give courtesi repli make point and push for time respond strongest formul point that doesn includ your post tough thi usenet and life tough sinc great deal respons thi isn feasibl honestli answer question put you drop debat poster and continu you issu month and start dicuss begin debat thi issu twice and occasion respons simon clippingdal posit assert that disagr moral valu inexor acknowledg that moral rel doesn simon drop debat for time that mean that busi bore topic not accus dishonesti you can understand you can understand you time ask side mean you clear sometim you aren and you you mean time you extrem uptight and feel that debat line nois sometim tire and sometim thing thi usenet and life tough you deal you start person insult not even put your name hat futur that suppos threat that simpl statement and assert that not answer offer baseless insult for exampl accus ly person belief complain that don answer question that you you sens evid for sens easi almost sens evid for sens intent and purpos had that argument for your claim that sens not found and you ask give evid for and correct statement reason assum that evid found problem second statement provid argument that almost sens that freedom valuabl cogent object thi jon livesei and offer peopl essenti that peopl disagre fuzzi concept such freedom good point and think your trick feel not and absolut neglect possibl that peopl effect process restrict claim absolut subject that process word refut you make ontolog claim you prove nonsens trick feel that and almost disinterest person evid that subject assumpt that can establish mutual satisfact mean and and that result system valu consist thi idealis fiction model sens that real materi exist fiction model not correspond true nonetheless assumpt equal assum relativist trick wit feel that and almost disinterest person even person disagre that even person dissent mutual agre definit and case that for that person and noth can thi useless inexor impli that supermajor seek maximis cannot moral action seek maximis terrorist that claim that supermajor carefulli consid moral terrorist true for ethic relativist claim that ethic relativ impli simpli weasel word and exampl compartmentalis rival world religion for similar argument sens moral subject not hurt thing that consid object wrong you mean that you thing that object wrong and turn not case for you thi evid for subjectiv evid objectiv sometim pragmat sens serv counterexampl for that that subject judgement absolut and long you don provid evid for that univers agre reason your hypothesi thi freedom proviso that answer jon object that fuzzi concept freedom object mean order make moral absolut univers object you show that independ human attribut quit mislead not evid that exist independ human you hard press find that isn logic equival appli valu analog set premis premis peopl that object speak shortest rout hous bar main entranc estat and malahid road premis check and found that shortest rout closer you never deduc that shortest rout hous bar that seemingli you deriv your relativist claim premis logic moral matter belief peopl that shortest main entranc agreement belief and order analog you show that shortest and that method convinc that shortest word your analog work assum that your premis place not fallaci and thi argument for objectiv you isn demonstr that argument you gave argument objectiv argument for relativ your gimmick assum place that valu aren real and us thi prove that valu aren real word you beg question frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	gulf war and peac nik articl apr batman bmd trw jbrown batman bmd trw write articl apr bmerh bnr dgraham bmer bnr dougla graham write your idea perhap rest world bomb missil washington invad nicaragua grenada panama vietnam mexico hawaii number place wait minut doug you inform that never invad nicaragua liber grenada liber invad describ invas includ not mistaken iraqi liber kuwait never invad nicaragua word game can you send marin you mean word invad sort militari action cross border you invad carri connot attack autonom nation nation invad virgin island invad virgin island thi point view your score fall mexico panama good word game you aggressor pick word scarc reprehens militari action peac nik that doesn masturb gun ammo suppos bad peac nik believ peac cost word person support give hitler not austria and czechoslakia poland avert war and hitler wipe jew slav and polit dissid area control long left rest alon that conveni techniqu alt atheism defin disagre you straw man extrem that match virtual suppos bad peac nik you depend your valu you life liberti peac freedom guess not liberti and freedom mean you life you die fight for liberti live tyrant heel bad peac nik nobl and patriot fine young american carpet bomb iraqi infantri posit horizon destroi iraq sewer and water infrastructur safeti sky bulldoz iraqi infantri into trench importantli command order thrill risk death not risk defens liberti wealthi kuwaiti can oil field tyrant heel that tyrant antagonist interest problem peac nik not bad and unconscion not argument problem peac nik held ideal and stai conflict issu deal nation defens not will legitim hold point view pigeon hole peac nik thi context peopl disagre conduct gulf war into peac cost hitler support genocid abet wimp you can express righteou indign refus fit thi mold and question conduct war legitim term dare milit and time resort violenc name peac rank hypocrisi hypocrisi violent peac nik care list exampl stop warmong will stand and defend freedom tyrant and realiz that requir strong nation defens wow instant nostalgia peac nik cold war derogatori term equat promot pacif godless pinko communist felt freedom mightili threaten iraq jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral hfj horu mchp sni frank write deletia case hadn notic frank and debat object moral and seemingli hit semant secondli can refut your definit can point logic implic and that contradict usag word object area your definit object oxymoron for quibbl that belief that useless and that object perfectli good word that nativ english speaker misunderstood your usag object and debat you don assert apolog loss imagin you mean ag can univers and intern consist amaz moral system can member societi singl individu case and human stick togeth beg question peopl can opinion ag univers and human can stick togeth you that univers real ag independ belief wrong point ag univers direct effect human stick power moral system societi can univers real ag evid for cosmolog astronomi and thi ag independ peopl opinion peopl lot opinion matter empir test consist give roughli result ag univers scientif fact can emir verifi mean that give result matter perform test albeit error bar that largish side thi assum that univers real ag kind realiti doesn depend can that put creationist task perform test and calcul make blatant error measur calcul and result test will extrem biblic creationist give rat ass mean you speak logic consist empir test contradict opinion test opinion test opinion contradict mine even conduct test ident manner don show test valid opinion heard verifi moral consist comput error measur care enlighten true pain painkil exist and can predict work accuraci random guess map activ nerv and neural activ you mean physic pain you sharp point give you that you haven quantifi moral wrote that moral hypothes observ agre hypothes can chang hold that ultim hypothesi moral gravit that chang imagin produc result suitabl for task purpos moral system make predict will that can test and wors almost defin context moral system your predict will correct that moral system you object definit good and bad you luck peopl idea ag object not object you can idea you and can stop you universa and ag anoth ballgam and you dislik detail that problem your opinion assum object realiti and you statement thi isn that you assum object real moral exactli provabl wrong statement claim that moral opinion our and such subject and individu wrong object real thing exist you label object moral can you back thi posit claim exist can you back your posit claim that assumpt make assumpt valu basi that logic differ two and empir basi two precis claim object moral suddenli posit claim can lend credenc claim ponder individu fulli function human be and member societi wildli moral code moral object base hir incorrect moral function fine come for produc individu easiest pick societi islam and polynesian matrilin system for exampl such exist deletia test for footbal desk moral inform and that oppos drift you claim never good mean thing good circumst achiev goal for reason time and that thing longer good thing hard make good seldom achiev sort goal mass murder lead into aztec fine spaniard wipe almost good mean sometim even never claim thi good therebi fix stone immut that simpl matter prove track record scientif method great and appli valu complet wrong that conclud result quit amount thought and thing two that line doesn good for object valu disclaim great young and insan
alt.atheism	asimov stamp articl schnitzi eusti schnitzi eusti ucf edu mark schnitziu write battin cyclop iucf indiana edu laurenc gene battin write apart suggest that appear letter column skeptic inquir recent mention asimov commemor stamp thi idea hasn thi happen that great idea start petit religi type snit due asimov atheism atheist stamp point long atheist insult disgrac addit religi blah blah monei and pledg big noisi and oper rescu
alt.atheism	motto replac dog trust andrew hilmer hilmera storm orst edu wrote risk begin cascad start possibl cheesi good uhmericun shield freedom govern for past year perhap thi debt holi templ mass slack ncsu edu us underwear consumpt legal tender box bb countri raleigh warn hoard penni bob
alt.atheism	islam genocid articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write articl ubl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl fido asd sgi livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write note that societi thi case mainland relig motiv murder and murder kind whether inter religion murder religi motiv conclud that noth inher religion for that matter catholic and protestant that motiv kill motiv christian bibl that kill circumst fact instruct kill circumst major peopl moral system that instruct kill circumst your distinct motiv and and agre that flavour theism ator that indict that theism depend circumst you talk christian islam your claim can understood peopl gener statement theism that fall apart god instruct utterli harmless for part conclud that requir happen that that will work religion easi will and religion suppli not easi not necessarili love thy neighbour not suppli demolish and definit religion broader definit theism explain insist that even murder labour chosen cathol and had noth ira protest extremist not relig motiv you that you simpli will not accept murder religi motiv that gui cut head believ devil incarn that relig motiv protest extremist kill cathol labour that wasn religi motiv not opinion obscur point theologi sinc protest don thi elect extremist for broad religion thi that complex that religi element and you power motiv reveng and misguid patriot you cathol and protest worldwid stop kill listen that you claim not read mind murder ensu fatwa rushdi inquisit and relig war special except isn thi grab bag hoc excus for not murder religi motiv gener principl thi gener principl that fairli clear that religion primari motiv enabl not obviou apart violenc not abstract argument northern irish protest don want absorb into offici cathol countri suppos suppos repli that you you don want dwyer assur that matter you you want you want you unionist wouldn mind absorb into cathol countri terribl thing lose mind word countri for kick don that unionist for god maintain posit privileg listen and you tell your version you read mind and don you specul motiv and you don statement belief face your claim not read mind credibl note that you fail answer question you ax grind you ignor protest stop kill peopl you refer properli describ unionist not protest for posit privileg that not religion base base polit bigotri and heartless extrem thing synonym religion overlap frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	asimov stamp articl schnitzi eusti schnitzi eusti ucf edu mark schnitziu write religi type snit due asimov atheism atheist stamp due discuss thi group time ago theist like asimov quot context and paint biggest bibl thumpin god fearin atheist hatin christian you laid ey einstein bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	raptur octob case you miss raptur stai calm and not panic your natur reaction onc you realiz occur panic absolut useless you had want god raptur you you chose wait your chanc stai thi earth and endur end tribul that endur end save matthew realiz you live great tribul great tribul year period start time raptur christ second come time jacob israel troubl jere and daniel seventieth week dan thi period will unparallel troubl and horror iii gather bibl you can and hide antichrist becom leader european commun reviv roman empir bibl will confisc and own bibl will tantamount treason bibl will your valuabl possess tribul read bibl you never read your life sinc your bibl confisc even you care imper that you read word you memor passag and can quot import read daniel luke matthew revel and amo for book describ event you can expect unfold you prai you never prai your life prai power god come strongli you prai and prai and prai read word and prai will you gain spiritu strength withstand tortur you endur for sake christ not mark cost even fit mean you and your love die martyr antichrist becom leader european commun will institut world econom system design that you cannot bui sell eat you mark number name monei will useless and small and great rich and poor free and slave receiv mark hand forehead and that bui sell mark name beast number name wisdom understand calcul number beast for number man number revel antichrist will implement greatest slaughter human wai peopl tortur and kill past such holocaust crusad you cannot even imagin horror that will place antichrist rule will wors histori matt altar soul had slain for word god and for testimoni held and white robe each and that rest longer number fellow servant and brethren kill complet revel target will jew and christian not worship imag mark forehead hadn and soul had behead for wit jesu and for word god had not worship beast imag and had not receiv mark forehead hand revel will us form tortur and humili order forc you renounc christ will hesit us your love you even your children tortur and kill front you that you will tempt mark you mark worship antichrist imag you will consign second death lake fire sung eloqu johnni cash you cannot redeem endur tortur for short and gain etern life sic endur etern torment ring lake fire worship beast and imag and receiv mark forehead hand drink wine wrath god pour full strength into cup indign sic torment fire and brimston presenc holi angel and presenc lamb revel and presenc season ticket holder special hat stadium vii set plan motion for surviv you not hide antichrist govern end tribul time you gain hide import for your spiritu growth and strengthen sinc extrem strong christ can suffer and die for sake thing move citi and into rural mountain area for antichrist control will come last popul area good radio you that you can stai attun event and discern time schedul tribul you can weather map heavi current tribul will sweep into area daybreak expect delai outbound and perhap school close store water and food you will not purchas mark water lake and stream will pollut radioact wast nuclear warfar and will eventu turn into blood good water filter bring type cloth for season flashlight batteri gener and aid suppli short learn surviv and live land pioneer viii trust will secret agent spy for antichrist govern lookout perot support note watch for antichrist import realiz antichrist and for will deceiv into think that great world leader will bring peac and prosper world hungri for can infer daniel characterist thi man popular and half year tribul will domin airwav will physic appeal highli intellig christ charisma and person intern politician militari tactician and econom expert word will peac will make treati jew will break and half year will such supernatur power that mortal wound head will heal even elect will deceiv you not prai and read bibl you will deceiv domin airwav perhap howard stern rush limbaugh antichrist will companion fals prohphet sic will make imag like antichrist and speak refus worhsip sic imag will kill final and half year will absolut insan demon spirit not give hope year tribul will end triumphant return christ antichrist will defeat steadfast and endur and you will reward greatli heaven start read bibl and prai fervent salvat your sould depend determin that come you will not mark worship antichrist you chanc save remain save thi time you will faith death god find you readi hour gloriou return mike cluff christian stupid ubvm mike luick ubvm give negativland languag percept laboratori bob beauchain bobb vice ico tek that queen stai blew bronx and sank manhattan sea
alt.atheism	atom real articl new rich bnr bcash crchh nosubdomain nodomain brian cash write petri and mathew your discus realiti atom interest that you verg question real that sinc observ not reliabl can that real don thi intent origin question sinc you defin word real that noth can meet criteria thought brian rainbow and shadow real not object phenomenon interest question atom object classic phenomenon neo quantum thi train talk and question dismiss atom sens not real leav uneasi impli that obsev effect and underli thing not necessarili real tree window thi categori observ light bounc not tree observ indirect observ made atom observ and experi that routin individu atom think atom trap experi and test fundament quantum mechan such quantum zeno effect individu atom studi for long period time attempt quantum mechan argument not satisfi careful make such argument solid technic background field read confus quit red her purpos public debat make audienc work will defend assert care atom real tree and real ussual dai sens word real
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl voinnr lynx unm edu cfaehl vesta unm edu chri faehl write myth refer convolut counterfeit athiest creat make religion absurd you don counterfeit athiest myth make religion absurd you read friendli christian bill conner post jim halat halat bear bear stearn doesn kill you will serv annoi you nyc speak for
alt.atheism	thought articl apr mk mike mk mike brookbank write articl apr mac macalstr edu acoop mac macalstr edu write articl bissda saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrenc bissel write die for lie wouldn peopl liar light yesterdai event waco texa guess answer your question obviou you waco exampl back jonestown peopl di for lie delet correct contrari earlier belief wide accept that not commit suicid kill end die for lie not convict alon thought make thi point clear disclaim opinion express thi post mine sole and not repres employ karner aix technic support karner austin vnet ibm
alt.atheism	islam and sufism move islam discuss short repli kent sandvik post remark strang that sufism relat islam quit understand islam not strang that sufism associ fact sufism gener dimens islam root word islam submiss islam denot submiss god sufism complet submiss god imagin annihil oneself god not sufi sufi path read lot and recent discuss number thing sufi path fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	genocid caus atheism apr nott eczcaw mip nott wainwright write articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write great respect love for person not equal form theism fred rice daric yoyo monash edu hmm jesu person great respect for jesu and atheist great respect for jesu not necessarili mean that follow christian muslim interpret life fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	atheism survei repli thi queri mail issu that worth discuss public mta mtabbott unix amherst edu wrote research atheism part involv field research net survei direct reader thi group intend data basi atheist belief recommend you your dictionari alt atheism faq file notic that atheism not belief system and common atheist not belief lack belief deiti cannot imagin research atheism pai care attent thi issu structur question that can answer varieti wai vari amount detail give succinct answer you type for hour imho thi poor method real survei repli you amus for hour tend us lot anthropolog buzzword belief system you contend that you don belief skeptic understand you mean such buzzword abbrevi for unweildi phrase requir precis idea across not you mean you survei individu philosophi fine that not strictli atheism atheism not anoth godless version theistic explan for life univers and not belief system and call philosoph system onc atheism characteris lack belief deiti not twist mean assum that kind philosophi agre comment your question contact atheist you had and and your convers atheism your involv alt atheism count net discuss affect your belief hear thi convert you convinc that your belief acquir wholli ration mean proof exist god etc perhap part mean alien mainstream religion etc thi question contain contradict term belief cannot acquir ration not belief you strang idea peopl becom atheist alien religion not necessarili becom atheist religion requir consider time honest inquiri find that religion intellectu dishonest virtual realiti never had belief will find thi question quit odd can lack belief acquir acquir lack belief easter bunni santa extent you feel you understand univers your belief phenomena univers and human exist physic phenomena problem exist evil human affair you feel adequ dealt your belief and lack explanatori method thi question not make sens sinc atheism not deal issu not worldview philosophi belief system sigh haven good thought survei usenet for year and point survei net abstract opinion petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	theism and fanat islam genocid articl dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write theism strongli correl irrat belief absolut irrat belief absolut strongli correl fanat delet theism correl fanatic that fanat caus theism that theism lead fanat point theism increas chanc fanat argu that fanat tend theism for exampl loook time histori theism domin ideolog invalid that conclus that that basic mechan imo influenc stalin for that matter ayn rand invalid your assumpt that theism factor consid bogu that theism not factor for fanat point that theism factor that your claim back your argument belief strongli correl fanatic belief factor fanatic true and utterli useless note thi belief not belief god gullibl blind obedi author lack sceptic and reliabl indic and danger peopl sourc fanatic thing cynic manipul gullibl precis that claim you support note that field theism leader you that you incred naiv brand theism and precis theist tend fanatic grant you tar theist thi brush bigotri not reason argument and read warm for censorship and restrict religi freedom read anim farm that straw man and discuss you repeat read written not theism lead fanat and not fanat caus theism point correl and come innat featur theism come featur theism common fanatic your last statement simpli isn impli you you sneak innat featur theism word you grope for gullibl shit sherlock not talk gullibl theism sinc lot relev case you oppos case you make and that forbid religion anoth your straw men interest that you noth offer read warm that that irrat and bogu tirad and us creat nice split mind excit peopl such found side church wall defin irrat belief ration that reason irrat belief belief that not base reason discuss for long time charlei wingat point that belief violat reason and anoth that process that not lend ration analysi not reliabl inform glare paradox argument that reason base reason circular and argument not base reason irrat that bogu refer not circular and sinc evalu us ration system allow oval beg question and that allow not ration and you claim ration and risk repeat and hear had that didn hear refut back deal you can us reason demonstr that reason think reason crap won bui you your argument silli prove mathemat statement mathemat and mathemat therfor circular godel silli part second statement contain inform you don belief belief strong theism and strong atheism your statement not gener true second part your sentenc patent fals counterexampl axiomat datum not lend ration analysi assum reliabl inform process us obtain speak religi system contradictori definit god axiomat datum lend ration analysi you refut fallaci discuss axiom choic and can evalu axiom larger system deriv exist deriv you want that can test consist and set axiom you that point peopl wind thi datum reliabl for reason exampl not dream compar evid theist for claim strength demand make thing not irrat antir can agre thi you specif theism that theism necessarili antir requir proof suspect you not traditon definit god person supernatur entiti object effect thi world connect moral and world work imo belief such god necessarili irrat that not mean that peopl hold principl oppos exercis intellig atheist scientist for exampl affin fanat easili true noth work hypothesi belief work hypothesi don understand thi can you formalis your argument person believ system becuas sound nice that not make true work hypothesi content that true and that work hypothesi test evalu evid for dismiss believ wrong wast time not depend content amalekit idolat protest kill thi can interest effect peculiar definit interest show that belief god entail content you speak aren cathol neighbour kill protest for exampl don conjunct assert and jail kill dissent that import and belief god irrelev ax grind frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	christian moral articl ousrvr oulu kempmp phoenix oulu petri pihko write dan schaertel dp nasa kodak wrote love god love seduc you rape simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic abil reason spec creation ultim you reli simpli your reason you will never you your argument type you onc you atheist sincer and believ for year eventu honest admit that had live virtual realiti christian and learn you accept that you don thi mean learn you accept that you don learn you accept don thi not prefer learn unwis swallow you read suppos write book tell great invis pink unicorn help daili problem you accept thi sinc you can whether true not ask you swallow fact jesu warn you question you beleiv you learn histori class for that matter school mean peopl told you and you don want swallow life death and resurect christ document histor fact you learn you choos and not argu that georg washington myth never live don proof told major event life jesu christ fortold hundr year neat trick into sceptic heart you can not you sincer effort attitud you you trust not church and particip activ you will die for you believ
alt.atheism	alt atheism faq construct logic argument suggest for logic argument faq don cover fallaci name us mathew inconsist and counterexampl thi occur parti point that sourc inform take stand inconsist two variat mutual agre premis stand sourc second parti fallaci respond sourc thi repli not refut alleg inconsist not show that sourc exampl type koran unbeliev treat wai can agre immor koran thi passag that unbeliev not treat that exampl second type two biblic creation stori you wrong sinc bibl describ creation descript dai christma truelov serv leftov turkei second dai christma truelov serv turkei casserol that made leftov turkei dai delet flame turkei wing pizza hut commerci and tlu gic bait ken arromde arromde jyusenky jhu edu
alt.atheism	religion islam author women bill conner bil okcforum osrh edu write stuff delet don make outrag claim religion affect and effect histori for purpso point that claim made wrong and noth valid atheism bill you erron assum that thi board sole purpos valid atheism doesn thi board us discuss atheism philosophi share poster experi atheism debunk theism and theism share resourc relat atheism and even social similar view and number theist come preach us argu case for atheism time made statement that religion sole point that make that kind claim mistaken deliber you want accus peopl ly directli phrase deliber mistaken oxymoron credit religion awesom power domin histori misunderstand human natur function religion and histori that distort histori thi exaclti and for affect two form theism discuss dai christian and islam claim make follow into good peopl and claim that benefit human accomplish faith imho american friend servic committe quaker cathol relief servic bread for world salvat armi soup kitchen and mother theresa spring mind can knowledg islam suppli name analag islam group mother theresa claim that work outgrowth christian form theism ascrib deiti such benevol human that wrong not care for point that such philosophi power chang behavior individu widespread can chang societi work for horror histori claim that christian had crusad inquisit deni awesom power that come faith absolut you twist reason statement that religion never solitari evil into unreason statement that religion had evil impact histori that absurd scott sauyet ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu
alt.atheism	book edm twisto compaq mccreari write topic book notic that pain ag reason hard find want pick copi for not bad mail order notic that bookstor carri thought thi suppos classic deal entir list book written atheist author and largest bookstor area pittsburgh and couldn find section bookstor you find kind book you altern bookstor for appreci can send you list you want nanci you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu fate countri not depend kind paper you drop into ballot box onc year kind man you drop your chamber into street morn
alt.atheism	colleg atheist nyeda cnsvax uwec edu david nye write read articl poll student ivi leagu school report that student indentifi atheist thi lot higher gener popul reason for thi discrep intellig younger thi wave futur guess that eas idea and thought commun colleg campu real world easier for theist peopl gener lock into bubbl and talk peopl opinion colleg you constantli surround and interact peopl idea life univers and harder build bubbl idea reach you world theist forc contend and listen atheist and theist religion bound chang belief year run david nye nyeda cnsvax uwec edu midelfort clinic eau clair thi patent absurd wish becom philosoph learn not frighten absurd bertrand russel nanci you and author thi quot send email andrew cmu edu fate countri not depend kind paper you drop into ballot box onc year kind man you drop your chamber into street morn
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law articl apr nic csu net davec silicon csci csusb edu dave chowel wrote articl apr bnr rashid write stuff delet point post that rushdi not condemn sole for word book thi contribut factor seri action rushdi and publish public book and initi media spotlight book that larg part led fatwa kind fatwa level rushdi not lightli and number anti islam writer and islam world not had fatwa made add fuel explos situat charg incit riot peopl die riot charg becom even can rushdi blame for death peopl demonstr death blame peopl dealt demonstr demonstr violent length will you justifi thi barbar behaviour rushdi onc rushdi situat explod into media muslim voic matter book effect restrict short video byte show dramat highlight muslim demonstr for twenti newspap magazin articl interview etc support rushdi muslim voic thi person select base dramat and incoher not knowledg islam situat time thi approx twenti ratio continu escal crisi rushdi central spotlight man moment valiant defend everyman free speech decoupl respons interest that hue and cry freedom speech book defam ethnic and religi group continu ban felt that injur sensibl group and present fals imag promot feel hate group for muslim thi kind doubl standard annoi rushdi thi spotlight golden opportun lash organ islam and admir verbal skill kind islam rushdi find palat call secular islam islam separ qur prophet god legisl and importantli intrus into polit arena fine rushdi made view muslim made anger book scale affair erupt into global proport thi time polit situat affect govern individu situat reach polit implic centr thi turmoil rushdi throw fuel fire engag person crusad that made oblivi sens caution you feel that person centr worldwid storm such thi respons reason exercis restraint kind oblig perhap step back momentarili spotlight till matter calm perhap you even feel that justifi boldli defi anger dare umbrag literari work matter insult find perhap you kind secular heroic knight mount media steed battl dragon islam fundament khomeini disingen author grew muslim atmospher knew muslim hold dear wrote book mischiev literari convent slander insult and attack islam and notabl person face situat that worldwid crisi continu mischief world stage media even peopl injur and kill magnitud and emot situat continu mischief good sens desist khomeini crisi mischief make grand scale mischief make that grew scale scale crisi enlarg death muslim world and rushdi continu media mischief even thi trigger factor that decid khomeini put stop mischief person centr event rushdi sourc continu mischief media support govern support that support sourc rushdi and publish noth short ecstat public and happi rushdi constantli media islam rule that deal peopl engag thi kind grand scale mischief make appli rushdi you attempt justif not imag islam good made attempt justif explan imag chief concern muslim apologist for islam and for rushdi muslim willingli releg sub cultur larger secular cultur such that secular principl and law had preced law islam doubt that islam thought good imag princip and larg reflect secular imag good imag mean your attempt total exoner rushdi reflect exactli attitud that result polar brought crisi iran situat monitor for month rushdi ad fuel flame free worldwid voic that media gave situat monitor even death occur worldwid rushdi not desist fatwa pronounc behav total jerk endang live and jerk see thi and insist behav total jerk rug jerk muslim didn make such big fuss book issu death threat and kill publish heard fatwa rushdi didn mouth media fuss di kill fatwa pass episod fizzl
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan vers articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write qur discuss thi point wai quit directli for exampl that god for faith and belief evid definit excel doesn weak blind faith depart doesn even tip put your dog race perhap dream vision that muham didn into desert and smoke person high write and such consist afraid don arab read translat wouldn written consist thing quran not and you read arab write influenc conscious alter substanc and that scribe dictat quran didn screw put vers good destroi beauti and literari qualiti text arab text weren good assum that quran beautfulli written and can muham marri women muslim allow muhammad not exce number revel regul number wive man marri retract thi point that onc knew biggest insult islam that major follow want suppress book sight unseen holi gui not mention murder author agre true that thi case haven interview muslim thi thi fals can your your sourc anoth case judg principl basi claim follow basi judg system can consist pictur islam khomeini imam mosqu mecca perhap gui jersei perhap you quran translat and thing and wherev you find idol kill shamim moham uunet noao cmcl arizona shamim shamim arizona edu thi cross and garlic mezuzah jewish page koran muslim and zen buddhist you your member leagu for program freedom write lpf uunet net
alt.atheism	genocid caus theism evid hour show pb dai histori jew appear cursad religi war agianst muslilam holi land spark widespread persecut muslilam and jew europ support persiecut martin luther and vatican hitler us luther write justifi treatment jew genocid caus theism evid
alt.atheism	societ basi for moral articl fzd new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write basi can that action anoth societi per hitler comment wrong ultim rest person opinion opinion major make question doesn make sens make democraci for exampl totalitarian regim dan
alt.atheism	high time comin verdant uc umass edu sol lightman write theori unproven that thi due simpl envi not due fact that two issu religion and religion religion person belief system religion memet viru peopl loudli proclaim belief cross border religion religion peopl that want save firmli entrench religion memoid rule not practic religion shut fuck you discuss polit thi mean that motiv convers not your gratifi spread word religion that ultim come person and reflect judgement religion that contract and not reflect person judgement perhap brainwash todai religion drug you can discuss religion post that start thi not intent discuss proclam someon religion you talk censorship that closemind you haven understood thi don problem discuss religion religion that can stand
alt.atheism	high time comin rubbl leland stanford edu adam heath clark write larg part christian base notion that religion and that univers flat wrong dai had inquisit and burn heret pat buchanan start cultur war can stand live countri god fear peopl surviv trait fix number resourc peopl for religion inhabit doctrin intoler and not birth control devic meme capit religion christian gain larger share popul memet competitor
alt.atheism	christian moral articl apr dc warwick simon dc warwick simon clippingdal write dan concern that you grave spiritu danger your stubborn refus love and accept into your heart mighti invis pink unicorn nice parodi delet prai for you fact brother cast demon bind you name mighti invis pink unicorn dan you faith you prai for that mighti invisibil pink unicorn not exist cannot pink and invis demon that daemon that believ and save soul name logic bill mayn
alt.atheism	read rushdi satan vers articl optima arizona edu sham arizona edu shamim zvonko moham write articl innknk bozo dsinc perri dsinc jim perri write sinc thi line discuss rest readership read thi book your thought read and like time sorta kinda thought muslim and couldn flap you that drug not write style hard us worth effort come similar background rushdi grew bombai muslim famili and move england grew delhi made strong impress and us strang construct indian english yaar end sentenc butbutbut occasion hindi phrase etc thi get us not indian connect knowledg hindi etc thi not trivial for wonder net glossari satan vers post rec art book vijai raghavan explain lot indian english construct indian cultur refer even islam refer jahilia submiss context satan vers incid etc cover coupl hundr page help into flow can mail thi interest portion part exist jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	burden proof aurora engr latech edu rai engr latech edu bill rai write make statement that god exist love etc insist that you that place burden proof you insist that god doesn exist that place burden proof you give proof give testimoni belief will respond proof that you attempt disprov belief your reaction peopl claim abduct space alien peopl abduct experi etc insist that alien don exist burden proof peopl can give hard fact can give lot testimoni back belief replac space alien elvi big foot blue unicorn and larger percentag popul sometim realiti experi for everon
alt.atheism	rawlin debunk creation john king king ctron post whop liner modern theori evolut inadequ that deserv treat matter faith franci hitch point make post scienc not base and not consist quot real alleg expert critic reason evid and experiment creationist frequent displai massiv confus thi quot expert and expert alik quot fact fals and steadfastli refus follow kind rigor scientif procedur thi strongli suggest that claim complet lack scientif merit and awar thi fatal defici you not creationist and thi not your real intent you fail identifi hitch and surround context statement that hitch scientif illiter quot displai profound ignor evolutionari biologi creationist frequent quot real scientist context and fabric statement that subsequ attribut legitim scientist you not creationist and thi not your real intent evid support alleg inadequaci modern theori evolut power argument contextless line quot unidentifi import note that disprov biolog evolut not automat prove altern claim that disprov that earth shape hockei puck prove that hyperbol paraboloid creationist fond dive head into thi logic fallaci you not creationist and thi not your real intent sinc evolut central virtual modern scienc attack evolut fact theori repres attack scienc theori will unquestion continu evolv fact evolut will not creationist lost battl long ago year fact simpli willfulli ignor and irrat acknowledg fact you not creationist and you not that ignor warren kurt vonroeschlaub iastat edu ask webster heard franci hitch hitch not found webster franci hitch scientif illiter creationist perhap plai part wrote quit ignor book attack evolut neck giraff that public quot creationist jean sloat morton standard invalid creationist probabl argument that protein not form chanc not confus abiogenesi evolut two quit independ conclud sequitur conclus not follow hitch misquot richard lewontin effort support creation hitch book review nation park servic ecologist david graber lo angel time and repeat oregonian articl titl giraff stick scientif neck excerpt includ franci hitch not biologist darwin mark antoni brutu flip scientif reason mystic and pseudo scienc sinuos snake oil salesman suggest mystic organ principl life similar organ creatur evid sic note that last statement evid for evolut not john king quot thi review book wouldn surpris interest that king had noth add post quot uunet tektronix sail mikec cranford uunet tektronix sail lab tek mikec princip troll arpa mikec sail lab tek relai net resid skeptic csnet mikec sail lab tek teklab tektronix
alt.atheism	genocid caus theism evid articl dvi mailer fsu edu dekort dirac scri fsu edu stephen dekort write hour show pb dai histori jew appear cursad religi war agianst muslilam holi land spark widespread persecut muslilam and jew europ support persiecut martin luther and vatican hitler us luther write justifi treatment jew genocid caus theism evid heck rememb read quot luther jew shot deer and cathol doctrin for centuri extrem anti semit you that your truth and your justic worth truth and justic centuri simon beauvoir certainti that rise doubt and withstand critiqu karl jasper rice univers will rice colleg
alt.atheism	polit atheist articl vinnkn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write wait talk ethic moral distinct import make ethic deal individu moral deal group moral system mimic natur number wai describ number wai detail explain contradict that aris human behavior mimic anim behavior couldn even begin list similar dissimilar due high intellig describ number wai detail explain contradict that aris don wrong for human surviv for long time wild difficult human social anim and that success defin difficult don understand you don understand sentenc difficult human surviv wild for hundr thousand year note earlier lack mate such abstin homosexu isn destruct system worst neutral member speci homosexu thi wouldn destruct surviv speci anim that exhibit homosexu bisexu answer question keith homosexu detriment surviv speci kcochran nyx edu tsakc thought post idea respons beer pizza
alt.atheism	bayesian statist theism and atheism articl apr dc warwick simon dc warwick simon clippingdal write articl quei horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl apr dc warwick simon dc warwick simon clippingdal write write imagin that alterian dollar turn your bank account month suppos that thi monei paid you your big heart alterian benefactor bug alterian atm suppos that thi true dichotomi troubl alteriu univers that observ alteriu for bank you couldn possibl afford examin case for evid whatsoev that such thing big heart alterian benefactor exist not exist ground that lack evid for evid partit that dismiss hypothesi turn find evid support that hypothesi ground dismiss hypothesi problem thi that dismiss hypothes and even construct that monei arriv month proven that can dismiss potenti that extrem poor argument and premis thi monei paid you your big heart alterian benefactor bug alterian atm each monthli appear buck happen observ alteriu and construct evid for exist benefactor bug atm premis observ alteriu for bank you couldn possibl afford you forgot includ thi premis premis cardin set observ alteriu thi contradictori not you state properli troubl basi premis you that can evid benefactor bug premis lead conclus that appear buck happen evid for exist benefactor bug voila scream contradict highlight strawman argument evid for oneof benefactor bug observ distinguish benefactor bug that not evid for bug and evid for benefactor true that thi hypothet univers appear exactli benefactor bug two statement fals thi contradictori reduc alterian dosh arriv account due benefactor bug thi not evid for benefactor evid for bug mean that doesn lend weight evid can exist for benefactor and evid can exist for bug reli shift mean you paraphras that thi not evid for benefactor for exampl you mean that evid for benefactor for bug that mean you shift mean evid for benefactor that mean absolut evid for benefactor rel evid for benefactor bug not meant evid that tend thi commun problem clumsi that bui your theori relat theism make predict prayer your raptur exampl don bui your us occam razor case exampl couldn dismiss benefactor bug ground simplic explain dosh brought dismiss process show that wrong you thi post you agre and talk cross purpos contradict sum benefactor bug dosh arriv account impli assum that benefactor bug respons buck arriv not impli that and thi isn meant and necessarili observ dosh chang estim clumsi that wrong assign probabl and that precis us razor case god god class hypothesi belong set hypothes explain not satisfactorili explain can thrown retain ground ration prefer not scienc statist altern chuck retain lot ground that answer can that notion probabl estim effect useless equal agnostic weak atheism set fill univers caus god pink unicorn noth etc and observ conclus exactli point make don throw contrari your assert that peopl simon and excel scienc sole point that aren observ directli contradict hypothesi can finit number observ thi case throw hypothes exactli point unclear you diametr opposit guess sourc confus illustr incorrect that you correct that absenc evid can sometim evid absenc thi not hold true for perhap version theism and isn true that for not hold can discard razor contrari for not hold exactli can discard razor post branch thi thread you guilti contradict you accus razor hold for god hold for hypothes mean that you assign for establish that not correct sum simpli put claim viabl proof exist exist god whether induct mistaken and worst bark mad luckili make such claim and specif numer occas you wouldn construct strawman you frank that doesn rule bark mad case bark mad spare time apolog clees you miss point onc that evid hypothesi that doesn impli that observ necessarili falsifi hypothesi reduc estim data reduc thi quantiti evid that talk case you correct and not construct strawman that misunderstood you standard system that god highli and god can dismiss razor system purport induct proof that god don exist unnecessari explain phenomena experi system such thi includ purport prove that god exist fallaci close examin that not you put straight frank dwyer not hatch that odwyer sse hen evelyn conlon
alt.atheism	asimov stamp battin cyclop iucf indiana edu laurenc gene battin write apart suggest that appear letter column skeptic inquir recent mention asimov commemor stamp thi idea hasn thi happen that great idea start petit that year period time death person can commemor stamp broken onc for lyndon johnson that held for awhil can start elvi stamp petit for ag and thing move onc past year anniversari death carl christensen dept comput scienc christen astro oci templ edu templ univers curious and curious philadelphia usa
alt.atheism	articl horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl apr nuscc nu cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan write leav june that back univers alt atheism ban stupid theist intoler sad isn idea can circumv thi problem frank solut delet you access telnet contact nyx edu public access unix system completli free and you for access verifi form requir notar copi pictur check such kcochran nyx edu tsakc thought post idea respons beer pizza
alt.atheism	ag reason read rushdi sandvik newton appl kent sandvik write thi stori kent archetyp finn that live bai area and purchas thoma pain ag reason thi man drive stacei book inc cleanlight place dalton place ask for thi book educ american book store assist ask check thriller section that book not publish receiv book place assist bluntli that don such author that not live author don copi book such life and time america year revolut similar note good friend mine work clerk chain bookstor peer amaz woman custom ask had autobiographi benjamin franklin question aliv fiction fiction final friend interven and show gui make standard employ scott sauyet ssauyet eagl wesleyan edu
alt.atheism	strong weak atheism rusnew manti mathew write that faq modifi defin strong atheist not assert nonexist god assert that nonexist god word mathew mathew you thi happen can version date save faq onc ignor regular post wouldn gener notic such chang and stai current scott
alt.atheism	problem omnipot recal discuss had heard year ago thi problem omnipot perceiv personifi christian god ideal that potenti contradictori manifest such god infinit power can god place limit stuff can recal question recal correctli can god unmak can god make assum doesn exist god exist for observ bind god potenti quantum state into realiti god noth primordi forc natur that exist earliest stage univers inflationari creation god vacuum fluctuat great energi densiti creat god that make god and god stuff don recal creat god god awar that god awar god live entiti necessai that god live entiti god unchang evolv comment post that benefit open inquiri and result discuss kyle
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alt.atheism	you will hell articl pharaoh cyborg martin pharaoh cyborg martin gorman write jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat fuck confus hell gai not becuas don god that mean can come tammi dean picnic kcochran nyx edu tsakc thought post idea respons beer pizza daddi that
alt.atheism	request articl qllg mailer fsu edu mayn pipe fsu edu william mayn write articl pww spac rice edu pww spacsun rice edu peter walker write didn church lightn rod ban european countri eighteenth centuri wide believ that interf god strike blasphem rememb that thi common eastern europ don eastern europ bertrand russel write scienc and mystic anoth book that preacher coloni boston attribut earthquak god wrath peopl put lightn rod had preach interfer god will depriv lightn bolt method sinner evid resort sterner measur smili not make thi you not san francisco earthquak coupl year ago flurri traffic talk religion misc thi result notori homo thi that and citi fact that earthquak road santa cruz watsonvil didn phase jon
alt.atheism	satan kent sandvik and jon livesei made essenti respons thi time kent articl get repli agre thi start point time and don thi start point accur copi scriptur happen thi beg question whether start perhap accuraci intent even wors event not written ey wit account high probabl date gospel readi into account problem inform forward telephon metaphor make differ you eyewit peopl step report you will earlier telephon metaphor innat bad purpos game telephon contrari aim write sort text point that standard gener assert thi group distinct eyewit and hollow sinc can shown eyewit even shown author text evid that origin text larg lost time sea error correct addit and delet case evid strongli direct textu and nestl aland text not differ low level signific reason assum similar situat for base model wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	societ accept behavior articl new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write qvh tinnsg citat ksu ksu edu yohan citat ksu ksu edu jonathan newton write articl qgm new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write question for basi moral moral ethic behavior societ accept behavior disagre societi think irrelev individu decid that import thi doesn want kill you can that decid sound you confus want and moral jon
alt.atheism	rushdi write unappreci articl quc tut lehtori tut aario sami write edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write articl jqd mdb blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write articl edu jaeger buphi edu gregg jaeger write ask counter fatwa issu khomenei condemn rushdi satan vers reason basic that satan vers rushdi titl matter not plai care islam thi shouldn matter that your opinion irrelev gregg thi gui sound borg ish vell thi perfectli normal behaviour vor vogon you jon
alt.atheism	rushdi islam law receiv inform issu bcci and whether islam bank etc post head bcci for fred rice daric yoyo monash edu
alt.atheism	boyd acsu buffalo edu daniel boyd write bibl such incred proof christian aren muslim hindu convinc qur such incred proof islam aren hindu christian convinc god exist aren atheist convinc tan chade meng sir question singapor cmtan iss nu
alt.atheism	christian logic xtian moral articl eastman dp nasa kodak write simpl logic argument folli you read bibl you will that jesu made fool trick logic you reli simpli your reason you will never you onc heard arguement xtian friend similar thi christian higher logic athiest will not understand your atheist logic low faith can understand higher logic god ask thi higher logic answer don thi post highlight worst thing xtainiti abundantli clear atheist xtain that illog irrat tactic disregard logic ration altogeth silli excus such and such can trust scienc scienc invent man show weak religion countri xtainiti and rapidli grow xtain never convert peopl appeal brain sens fruitless act irrat natur faith wait person distress comfort and addict emot opium never life had met person convert xtainiti coz reason ration place xtainiti xtian arguement reason unenlighten tan chade meng wise man tell wife that understand singapor cmtan iss nu fool prove unenlighten tan chade meng wise man tell wife that understand singapor cmtan iss nu fool prove
alt.atheism	thought articl madhausc kip netcom madhau netcom maddi hausmann write healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write tammi maddi trim heali you practic you get hang give you nicknam for size tammi lucki heali tammi pass falafel heali tammi heali tammi learn heali thing trademark don charl lazaru dead aliv care name lazaru rise start lawsuit dean kaflowitz knew architect onc swear emploi design sign for toi and kid store sign thing stick store big pole can highwai job hour school studi architect you can move pole ten feet closer highwai
alt.atheism	thought articl aec cbnewsj att decai cbnewsj att dean kaflowitz write thing trademark don charl lazaru dead aliv care name lazaru rise start lawsuit not trademark backward speak proof god funniest term paper hand freshman wrote god exist wouldn mean make exist doesn thi argument wors ontolog proof exist god provid anselm and descart raymond smullyan and philosoph fantasi
alt.atheism	fundament belief sda articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write ask post list sda church basic belief sda church reluct formal creed usual sens word power that church deem neccessari publish summari basic sda belief afraid speak proof god funniest term paper hand freshman wrote god exist wouldn mean make exist doesn thi argument wors ontolog proof exist god provid anselm and descart raymond smullyan and philosoph fantasi
alt.atheism	cult religion jgreen trumpet calpoli edu jame thoma green write religion cult power belong bull shit graem nattress ncl hitler nibor planet vashir galact shape chang psychopath john tomorrow peopl hitler last secret
alt.atheism	you will hell articl healta saturn wwc edu healta saturn wwc edu tammi heali write articl apr mnemosyn edu kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran write kcochran nyx edu keith justifi and ancient cochran subject you will hell date sun apr gmt articl pharaoh cyborg martin pharaoh cyborg martin gorman write jsn psuvm psu edu write you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat fuck confus hell gai not becuas don god that mean can come tammi dean picnic you can come poster invit and didn put homosexu claus bring munchi and join parti can imagin dean object know keith expect bring leather accessori oil leather crack dri dean kaflowitz
alt.atheism	poison islam genocid articl rbpq ibg horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer write articl bbacbc dbstu dbstu benedikt rosenau write that you theist point consist rhetor fallaci unsupport claim and demonstr falsehood delet that don detail for thi claim good rememb that you answer statement that you theist anoth correspond that you not member denomin stupid attempt trick answer not unlik rest your argument roseneau patienc peopl and call liar disagre posit not that agnost extrem wari you us word thi case broader definit god us person consid and theist point that post you us your us definit rest assumpt moral object absolut buzz word you fond will and defin exactli and user shown recent easiest dispel you you for definit you free specul motiv for object irrat bigotri you flaw point your argument stand merit sinc you and correspond point flaw your reason discuss can impress benedikt
alt.atheism	thought articl lkz blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write articl brigg ccresourc uta edu brigg postoffic uta edu william brigg write wasn carpent that besid point fact that compel fulfil propheci propheci includ get kill agon thi nonsens can lot agon wai kill fatal cancer for instanc can make list find stuff carpent interest independ sourc for thi assert christian bibl record built tabl hous stair norm abram real test carpent skill build stair hand tool leav plan for kitchen counter and cabinet build cross us pressur treat lumber gotta us that pressur treat anywher that wood meet concret hold for mose outdoor applic bumper sticker that boss jewish carpent back ford escort and real carpent apprentic drive pickup for verif that carpent dean kaflowitz sometim shack catfish ain pretti don talk back goin fishin goin fishin and good friend goin fishin
alt.atheism	thought articl apr daffi wisc edu mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write articl lkz blaze jhu edu arromde jyusenky jhu edu ken arromde write can lot agon wai kill fatal cancer for instanc can make list dy blood clot bad place kidnei stone complet blockag
alt.atheism	thought articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write articl aec cbnewsj att decai cbnewsj att dean kaflowitz write thing trademark don charl lazaru dead aliv care name lazaru rise start lawsuit not trademark backward yup you mistak make backward comput keyboard bet god thi alt atheism you start come backward type becom believ and that not ask for miracl ask for miracl for real miracl for pat buchanan becom closet drag queen that wouldn miracul fabul feather boa and sequin hat mia farrow wore gatsbi dean kaflowitz
alt.atheism	mari fault articl brigg ccresourc uta edu brigg postoffic uta edu william brigg write delet lucki for that babi didn obviou deform mari get pregnant wedlock save face and joseph that god that pregnant and babi turn deform even wors stillborn lot explain point gui oop gui and gal us term gui asexu sort conspiraci occur sinc mean dozen time past two thousand year opportun time for messiah born gui run switzerland claim conceiv similarli mother father bit surpris lot messiah and had similar stori birth death list messiah quit interest wouldn you feel bad you turn wrong and concept christ god can imagin your face mari ask you you had child omnipot god pull such stunt provid evid for check and question absurd wouldn you feel bad you find that stone sentient and that you step your life and wouldn you feel bad you proof that jesu plot satan want save imag joseph plan place quit wed and equal quit divorc quit easi jewish law that regard pretti dumb conspiraci you outlin that bring attent messiah appear royal scandal israel part act sandhedrin discuss growth church wise gui leav alon and noth can stop and isn will fizzl you forgotten pride factor didn fizzl church mean argument fallaci for read thi end letter religion claim that won fizzl etern truth christian sinc religion find religion that that last roll twelv dice calcul chanc for result argu that special result event chanc happen chanc feel elev you particip let that special event place benedikt
alt.atheism	thought christian bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write robert beauchin wrote that prai young prei young come bright ei altar boi find priest wear that chasibl thi statement atheist sure not intend wit sure intend wit atheist you refer bill kevin marshal comput scienc depart virginia tech marshal csugrad edu blacksburg virginia
alt.atheism	room for metaphor articl bakerlj augustana edu bakerlj augustana edu lloyd baker write want respons give pro and con metaphor religi languag atheist accept thi view give foundament believ atheist accept usag religi literatur tradit view metaphor thi essenti homer concept such fate luck free will remain question whether religi literatur christian good set metaphor for world todai unclear and quit that contemporari religion that and divorc metaphor potenti liter and absolut carri case jim perri perri dsinc decis support inc matthew opinion for nomin fee can
alt.atheism	moraltii polit atheist articl cmninnb gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write livesei solntz wpd sgi jon livesei write pardon appli human term human that you basic state that moral can deal human human sentient moral that you that moral can deal intent never that human be suffici sentient intent fact explicitli that perfectli happi that anim capabl form intent object program instinct behaviour moral signific sinc such behaviour not involv intent that even not consciou altern thi not prevent behavior moral you thi you convinc that moral act moral whether not implementor think that not point point whether implementor think issu not whether think produc opinion opinion whether think take place period offer time accept your definit you ascrib moral signific orbit motion planet hmm perhap you can ascrib that human action not natur and don follow natur moral sinc human part natur not human action natur perhap you throw definit natur that will describ action natur and not natur definit death surround mate ritual anim don kill each speci that multipl poster show you shark for exampl eat wound shark person cat eat newborn you kind denial peopl give you exampl exampl and you air for week and pop claim that never happen strang don anim kill each mean write tailor made faq for schneider jon
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alt.atheism	islam and scientif predict genocid caus atheism articl apr monu monash edu daric yoyo monash edu fred rice write delet god creat night dai sun and moon each travel orbit motion qur delet that translat found for surpris hear that night and dai move orbit thought thi translat refer two object orbit bucail translat night and dai travel orbit perhap thi can understood earth refer frame thi refer frame dai and night orbit earth travel east west thi refer frame earth that belong group interpret found for allow form interpret reduc inform text interprtet check quot and line preced quot interest mountain set earth order immobil earth ski heaven refer support line edit thi meant possibl and that sun travel orbit that earth sound geocentr will can find thi not geocentr that sun and moon move and earth immobil sound geocentr benedikt
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alt.atheism	american and evolut tue apr gmt bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner wrote robert singleton bob thnext mit edu wrote isn mutual exclus lend weight increas notion run estim posterior probabl atheist pitch partit and necessarili reduc quantiti theist pitch thi divin compon fall prei ockham razor phenomenon satisfactorili explain and independ evid such compon detail post occam razor not law natur analyz argument even interest cite and end odd that religion simultan condemn primit simpl mind and unscientif anti intellectu and childish and condemn complex occam razor scientif explan thing straightforeward and appar simpler cute character bill inconsist two statement even believ that religion primit simpl mind and unscientif anti intellectu and childish can hold view that religion add unnecessari level complex explan idea don complex excis occam razor add unnecessarili complex descript essenti and you essenti part explanatori system that add predict capabl system that even scientist don fulli comprehend scienc due complex and divers william occam perform lobotomi frontal lobe and thrown huh thi confus you will straighten tough watch your freudian slip show mike mcangu truth truth mam mous cmhnet org even you choos ignor sig virus
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alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl itp horu mchp sni frank frank dwyer specif relativ conclud two peopl grotesqu disagre wrong and sometim perhap rare pretti good idea wrong never inform make guess make decis idea moral judgement meaningless impli that whether peac war meaningless question and not discuss for correct answer short posit assert nice hope you can and predic assumpt that valu real statement can consist deriv relativist assumpt that valu aren part object realiti relativist answer your question you phrase question make unanswer concept and wrong correct incorrect true fals belong domain epistemolog moral question make sens moral posit wrong legitim good anoth posit illustr thi point psycholog deriv epistemolog and ethic percept and motiv can percept correct true verid wrong incorrect fals illusori make sens motiv true fals hand strang whether percept moral good evil can that question motiv your suggest answer simpli can consid assum you can judg correct moral judgment problem that doubl barrel agre part that right moral posit meaningless question for reason state that irrelev alleg implic not implic that cannot feel peac war can make judgment bad assert correct posit for lengthi dismiss short answer that two individu grotesqu disagre moral issu correct wrong incorrect simpli hold moral valu feel john johnson psuvm psu edu depart psycholog penn state duboi campu penn state not respons for behavior ruthless doctrinair avoid degeneraci degeneraci anoth sort get drunk and pick bar ladi and write metaphys part life lila pirsig
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alt.atheism	death penalti polit atheist bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write thi fascin atheist argu for abort defend homosexu mean popul control insist that valu biolog and condemn war and capit punish benedikt contardictori cannot exist thi case mean atheist suppos understand atheist can object war excel mean control popul growth capit punish logic escap you assum atheist alik atheist not exist god opinion issu such capit punish and abort vari greatli you attack view atheist benedikt presum present your argument such and not lump togeth for issu start abort person not support abort mean popul control contracept fact support woman abort person view arrog individu not bodi and domain legisl not extend into uteru that opinion and atheist and theist disagre not defend homosexu mean popul control defend end homosexu anger hear character person relationship noth consciou effort popul level for atheist believ valu biolog idea you talk final issu war and capit punish atheist can object easili theist you hung suppos conspiratori link atheism and popul control thi atheist you refer post back kevin marshal comput scienc depart virginia tech marshal csugrad edu blacksburg virginia
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alt.atheism	rawlin debunk creation articl dglinnkv ctron new ctron king ctron john king write iastat edu warren vonroeschlaub write webster heard franci hitch not answer evolutionist such informationless phrase paleontologist and author neck giraff quot jack for your inform check librari congress catalog and list book franci hitch earth magic neck giraff darwin wrong pendulum psi connect world atla mysteri tom scharl scharl irishmv room comput center scharl lukasiewicz edu univers notr dame notr dame usa
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alt.atheism	motto replac dog trust pepk dirac scri fsu edu eric pepk write mammon trust hei thi piec paper spend quickli thi your god john carpent live natch steve lurk horror stelter sj uxa cso uiuc edu
alt.atheism	fake god holi li articl apr zeu calpoli edu dmcaloon tuba calpoli edu david mcaloon write rememb einstien imagin greater knowledg einstein had lunch tien castro street yesterdai hand fortun cooki that imagin not knowledg wing feet jon
alt.atheism	free moral agenc told you atheist mytholog for prove point bill
alt.atheism	free moral agenc maddi hausmann madhau netcom wrote that you repres real christian bill you asshol lost maddi that you can grasp obviou your deviou natur can you find fault argument misrepres plainli that state christian posit understand not whether agre sinc point that flaw that posit atheist invent never claim expert and christian made object pretti intens studi year feel qualifi discuss gener proposit offend you that expos distort and misrepresent christian you contriv and rail classic strawman dodg thi leav you noth attack usual you avoid larger issu pick insignific stuff not find thing post that can discuss can you even issu bill
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alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl uul darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write atheist post argu parodi religion creat ridicul caricatur religion and attack believ that religion and religion ridicul devic establish religion mytholog that not atheism mytholog sens word religi paradoi significantli part render null and void simpl fact that strong atheist that strong sens that find standard concept god mean attempt bring mean result destruct viabil languag intern contradict concept strong atheism not whimsic fantasi and exist your strawman pointless and weak privat note jennif fakult thi post sarcasm cycnic ironi humor awar thi possibl and not confus and thrown for loop doubt assum owner thi account not responsibl for your confus result your inabl recogn read your risk jennif
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alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl uzp darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write offend you that expos distort and misrepresent christian you contriv and rail classic strawman dodg thi leav you noth attack usual you avoid larger issu pick insignific stuff not find thing post that can discuss can you even issu guess you not psycho analyst real life you plai alt atheism esp you god privat note jennif fakult thi post sarcasm cycnic ironi humor awar thi possibl and not confus and thrown for loop doubt assum owner thi account not responsibl for your confus result your inabl recogn read your risk jennif
alt.atheism	death penalti gulf war long articl apr daffi wisc edu mccullou snake wisc edu mark mccullough write articl optima arizona edu sham arizona edu shamim zvonko moham write bullshit gulf massacr ordnanc us smart rest that regular dumb iron bomb and stuff heard figur closer and that smart stuff hit follow that mean thi smart arsen miss figur place hit ratio close higher your sourc that that date civilian death count excus mean collater damag never sourc that claim such figur post sourc reliabl can judg sourc bill moyer happen theist tie thi alt atheism pb documentari war main sourc videotap includ nation and progress rest articl mere rationalis you claim that sanit plant strateg legitim target happen civilian citi sewer system happen civilian you destroi water purif plant and hospit can handl result epidem electr and exactli your sourc postol interview media demostr pentagon li patriot effect your sourc for effect you claim case don thi relev alt atheism move shamim moham uunet noao cmcl arizona shamim shamim arizona edu thi cross and garlic mezuzah jewish page koran muslim and zen buddhist you your member leagu for program freedom write lpf uunet net
alt.atheism	qur and atheist jewish settler demolish mosqu gaza articl psilink robert knowl psilink write date sun apr gmt fred rice daric yoyo monash edu qur talk lust and worldli desir for god thi encompass atheist fred rice daric yoyo monash edu muslim men screw fourteen year prostitut thailand quot quot form justif for athiesm and equanim belief arriv
alt.atheism	free moral agenc andrew newel tan psuvm psu edu wrote you let atheist mytholog confus you issu webster myth tradit legendari stori belief truth accept uncrit that qualifi almost oxymoron amus instanc found that atheist hold almost atheist view accept uncrit that legend explain basic truth myth don meet criterion andrew myth refer convolut counterfeit athiest creat make religion absurd approach religion includ christain ration manner and debat claim state atheist concoct outrag parodi and hold religi account for belief don accur oxymor term reason atheist bill divin justic fundament doctrin christian man sin that time you accus referenc mytholog you proced launch your xtian mytholog thi time meet requir myth good exampl read post acoord mean refer christian doctrin understand speak for you purpos post present basic overview christain doctrin sinc german bill pretend not and mean atheist claim that not god exist and don contradict bibl that author bibl claim repeat wrote for sake get across you trust bibl your trust doesn make credibl bibl that that reason doubt bibl not your alleg god alleg exist paraphras christian doctrin clear thi point your disput not bill refut speci wide condemn justifi that claim that evid for exist god that will unknown deliber ignor bibl ignor excus don ignor bibl bibl univers accept bibl not proof god proof that peopl thought that god prove even that write seri fiction short stori case dionet assum writer believ thing possibl prove that believ and that ignor problem whether not interpret and biblic philosoph correct peopl never heard bibl read faq you miss point bibl not point contain make differ accpet bibl even unawar exist christian hold that appli univers mankind share natur and fate and innat knowledg god you read post care read faq wouldn thi convers bill freedom you free ignor god you free ignor graviti and consequ inevit and case that atheist can accept evid mean bzzt wrong answer graviti directli doesn stop exert direct and ration undeni influenc you ignor god hand doesn gener show supermarket tabloid god doesn exert ration undeni influenc graviti obviou god aren evid you don accept agre bill secondli human reason comforatbl concept god that intrins natur human reason come back question god gener and human reason hasn come back exist god come back exist god word doesn gener come back xtian god come back whether god and orient philosoph histori gener doesn pop idea god question natur forc and world wide view human natur make univers and forc control natur tendanc god exist religi wish think human reason come back exist god thi discuss not bill thi make point that christian emin reason that divin justic and human natur atheist whether you agre not you not correct human natur you base your view complet eurocentr approach world you attempt sum human thi interest truth determin polit correct content grant extrem unhip wasp male and european contempt thought thi kind dialogu purpos truth thing rememb oxymoron reasonalbl atheist and understand bill
alt.atheism	free moral agenc jame felder spbach lerc nasa gov wrote you that physic adam and ev and that human direct decend two human be cain and wive couldn sister didn daughter human human direct descend bunch hope monster human race didn evolv set parent thousand you base your atheist thi that human thi planet don instinct that christian god exist claim instinct knowledg doesn hold water you that billion christian world fight thi instinct urg acknowledg god and that peopl christian natur that christian hold that god christian worship thought distinct obviou read post and you written you agument your word wrap screw you shift column text bill
alt.atheism	free moral agenc kent sandvik sandvik newton appl wrote agre had hard feel not believ grand grand mother told elv danc barn earli morn prefer not accept even statement provid truth life hard kent brilliant rebutt appar you opinion that ridicul suitabl substitut for reason you find plenti compani bill
alt.atheism	cruel kmr cwru edu keith ryan write don form execut pain electr chair pain rel short live draw and quarter hand pain and victim wouldn die bleed death imagin cruel punish not pain you origion state long term pain short live thi sudden chanc your stanc don chang stanc origin stanc that painless execut not cruel didn consid cruel that painless death wasn cruelti involv sort suffer don that get shot head electrocut suffer even hang produc sharp instanc pain quickli hmmmmm pardon that counter exampl made render your previou stanc null and void don you admit that your previou stanc incorrect you manag slip and misstat your origion stanc not admit state that painless death isn cruel don state that pain execut cruel that cruel depend natur and durat pain long long instant guess death suffoc asphyxi blood loss cruel thi includ ga chamber and draw and quarter that pain that last twenti second long thi arbitrari cutoff suppos keith
alt.atheism	christian moral dan schaertel dp nasa kodak wrote articl ousrvr oulu kempmp phoenix oulu petri pihko write love god love seduc you rape not that great fun not felt joi and peac christian speak long gaze thi not believ hide fear get punish for never bibl hopelessli confus for for god not answer end found had mass delus lie can refus give slightest hint exist christian and suggest honestli reconsid reason and analys posit fact amus note thi context that fundamentalist public exactli opposit not examin belief critic you left testimoni post thi group two month ago dai final found faith decid time cycl emot respons fire onc thi time delus last coupl hour told friend phone that work god hung had admit that had li and fallen prei illus ask you swallow fact jesu warn you question you beleiv you learn histori class for that matter school mean peopl told you and you don want swallow us read book younger peopl told grew and skeptic read learn mean us reason student chemistri had perform qualit analysi mixtur two organ compound lab hate experi thi fashion and increas student workload consider had twice sinc fail attempt never forget lesson matter strongli you structur unknown tempt jump into conclus leap faith assur oneself ignor data inconsist can wrong found that exactli mechan god mental assur suspens fear filter inform word god plai part life death and resurect christ document histor fact and had thi dan ufo stori document resurrect jesu resurrect document quit haphazardli bibl author not pai attent wild rumour leav end gospel addit and insert for instanc end mark miss earli text bibl jesu live and di misunderstood you learn you choos and not thi easi that world exist independ mind and that logic and reason can us interpret and analys observ noth faith will evid make differ whether georg washington exist not assum that vast amount evid present into sceptic heart you can not you sincer effort attitud you you trust not church and particip activ you will die for you believ liar you attitud read your bibl will die for faith rememb hero dan you ly believ firmli for year difficult admit that believ not anymor can ly blind trust danger and anoth blind led blind god will don whether exist evid doesn petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	upi mother file complaint boi scout default followup newsgroup short excerpt brookfield wi upi mother file complaint elmbrook school board alleg son elementari school and parent teacher organ show discrimin support boi scout gisel klemp wednesdai pto sponsorship boi scout troop and cub scout pack that meet hillsid elementari school surbarban milwauke discrimin boi scout ban homosexu pto presid gail pludeman disput charg discrimin and believ boi scout benefici carl kadi not repres organ thi kadi uiuc edu
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write human direct descend bunch hope monster human race didn evolv set parent thousand you base your atheist thi articl darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write brilliant rebutt appar you opinion that ridicul suitabl substitut for reason you find plenti compani bill conner meet bill conner jon
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral articl kmr cwru edu kmr cwru edu keith ryan write sun start orbit earth will accept bibl you forget that two spin skater orbit each
alt.atheism	you will hell articl apr wam umd edu willdb wam umd edu william david battl articl apr ncsu edu aiken new ncsu edu wayn nmi aiken write jsn psuvm psu edu wrote you blashephem you will hell for not believ god prepar for your etern damnat leav termin unattend not jesu freak post jsn psuvm penn state load hilt bibl banger us vomit and reason left even had group stop plai rock music dine hall year cuz deem satan kampu krusad for khrist peopl run damn place for part liber art depart safe haven sound you penn state kampu krusad for khrist vocal power sometim lot gener vocal opposit aren that krusad liber tend can sinc want allow live want you don hear bibl banger stand want forc live bibl banger rule krusad don run thi place averag mix peopl rest and faction louder andrew
alt.atheism	free moral agenc articl darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write myth refer convolut counterfeit athiest creat make religion absurd approach religion includ christain ration manner and debat claim state atheist concoct outrag parodi and hold religi account for belief don accur oxymor term reason atheist religi parodi not atheist paradi substanti that parodi and outrag specif iup outrag religion privat note jennif fakult thi post sarcasm cycnic ironi humor awar thi possibl and not confus and thrown for loop doubt assum owner thi account not responsibl for your confus result your inabl recogn read your risk jennif
alt.atheism	cruel articl bkpinno gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider write state that painless death isn cruel don state that pain execut cruel that cruel depend natur and durat pain hang pain you not condemn die instant guess death suffoc asphyxi blood loss cruel thi includ ga chamber and draw and quarter that pain that last twenti second long thi arbitrari cutoff suppos hang not suppos pleasant that actual not quick and clean ga chamber can quit pain heck not give good time suffic nitriou oxid privat note jennif fakult thi post sarcasm cycnic ironi humor awar thi possibl and not confus and thrown for loop doubt assum owner thi account not responsibl for your confus result your inabl recogn read your risk jennif
alt.atheism	book stuff hard find atheist book delet perhap infiltr fundi school board citi council etc you can find altern media
alt.atheism	cult religion bill rai rai engr latech edu wrote jame thoma green jgreen trumpet calpoli edu wrote conclus can shown that essenti logic argument differenti cult religion challeng produc distinct clear and can easili knock thi religion cult stood test time histori written winner and not loser religion religion cult that vile and corrupt exert doctrin polit and militari measur perhap koresh withstood onslaught for anoth coupl month start attract convert due strength full religion and not cult carl christensen dept comput scienc christen astro oci templ edu templ univers curious and curious philadelphia usa
alt.atheism	nicknam cmtan iss nu tan chade meng dan write forgotten nicknam tan chade meng chines nicknam front unenlighten thought your nicknam unenlighten maddi hausmann madhau netcom centigram commun corp san jose california kid don thi home rememb post profession
alt.atheism	asimov stamp articl dc pdc dc paul crowlei write quot schnitzi eusti ucf edu mark schnitziu articl schnitzi eusti religi type snit due asimov atheism can confirm thi told that asimov convert christian point good quot absolut not asimov lifelong atheist and time death judg stori told life felt cultur closest judaism make sens born jewish went llnl gov
alt.atheism	free moral agenc dean kaflowitz decai cbnewsj att wrote you let atheist mytholog great start realiz immedi that you not interest discuss and thump your babbl prefer answer heali reason and reason approach thing aren you creationist gui made lot silli statement evolut time ago duh gee talk christian mytholog hope discuss reason logic person you for your side repetit bore mytholog thousand time delet rest your remark spot that approach answer repetit uninterest doctrin and thought congratul you bill you wouldn logic argument bit you ball such persist lack function face repeat attempt assist you learn thi forum and past speak talent that meager abil don that capac for ignor influenc dean kaflowitz dean read your comment you that character argument refut you that hominum attack suffici make point you disapprov you contribut make bill
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral mark mccullough mccullou snake wisc edu wrote articl ursa bear halat pooh bear jim halat write atom not object aren even real scientist call atom noth mathemat model that describ physic observ properti surround subject jim halat thi deserv frame atom aren even real atom electron microscop atom figment imagin evid that atom real overwhelm won bother evid moment you that ey perceiv imag actaulli perceiv thi interest thought that electron microscop us wavelength light can illumin object atom scale thi imag resolut wouldn illumin sourc wavelength order magnitud size thing observ atom probabl cloud lower resolut give appear solid fairli that atom not object convent sens not physicist question ramif philosoph natur strai thought carri bill
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral mike cobb cobb alexia li uiuc edu wrote true length time for discuss creation evolution atheist and christian debat sinc and debat unab passion mike referr creation evolut time and question point view deriv direct observ can scientif controversi concern consequ truth truth side hold philosoph outcom and can wonder point view human natur make that know anyhth object knowledg inher subject context you stand base you true you want true and can you differ bill
alt.atheism	year can that christian moral kent sandvik sandvik newton appl wrote articl darksid osrh uoknor edu bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner wrote that choos observ and observ interpret and signific depend great deal valu observ scienc human activ and such subject potenti for distort human activ myth that scientist moral influenc ethic concern that knowledg can abstact and pure natur untaint bias scientist nonsens bill thi wonderfulli phrase assum you understand that your statement undermin such human construct religion kent accept thi compliment paranoid visit extent statement relev human natur not undermin religion atheism sinc claim special knowledg truth and sinc such claim suspect can learn that human arrog speci point that cannot ignor human natur examin human claim trick find abstract infinit fallibl natur realiti can can thi can bill
alt.atheism	shit shovel amus atheist and robert beauchain bobb vice ico tek wrote precis posit newbi point point approach debat type wast time and lifespan ignor not option sinc don and leav larg stretch complet anonym thi group bob post long your name time can recal point point approach you contribut senil and forgotten you post exampl your invinc logic jog memori bill
alt.atheism	free energi technolog free energi technolog robert mcelwain physicist nineti hundr year ago knew that heavier air machin not possibl fly violat law physic expert and author for exampl simon newcomb declar demonstr that combin substanc form machineri and form forc can unit practic machin man fly long distanc air writer complet for demonstr physic fact fortun smart peopl such wright brother not accept such pronounc final word airplan for grant crash todai orthodox physicist and scientist similar thing kind free energi technolog neg term such pseudo scienc and perpetu motion and cite call law assert that energi cannot creat destroi law thermodynam and decreas energi law thermodynam physicist not thing arrogantli declar that thing cannot such principl impot common orthodox modern scienc and cover inconsist and contradict orthodox modern theori free energi invent devic can tap seemingli unlimit suppli energi univers burn kind fuel make perfect solut world wide energi crisi and associ pollut degrad and deplet environ free energi devic not creat energi tap into exist natur energi sourc form induct unlik solar wind devic energi storag capac can tap energi need need solar energi di advantag that sun block cloud tree build earth reduc haze smog thick atmospher low altitud and high latitud likewis wind speed wide variabl and exist solar wind power suitabl directli power car and airplan properli design free energi devic not such limit for exampl patent and award for motor that run exclus perman magnet seemingli tap into energi circul earth magnet field two requir feedback network order run describ detail scienc mechan magazin spring amaz magnet power motor jorma hyypia page and front cover requir critic size shape orient and space magnet feedback such motor drive electr gener revers heatpump home year round for free complet descript copi patent each patent offic jefferson davi hwy arlington correct digit patent number requir get copi articl and patent your local public univers librari inter librari loan dept second type free energi devic such grai motor patent tesla coil and motor inventor joseph newman scienc page tap electro magnet energi induct earth reson cycl per second harmon typic spark gap circuit serv synchron energi coil energi tap import that total induct and capacit devic combin reson frequenc earth reson order maxim power output thi output can increas center spark gap neutral center strong shape perman magnet case tesla coil slip toroid choke coil secondari coil will enhanc output power earth energi fuelless propuls power system john bigelow health research box mokelumn hill austrian civil engin name viktor schauberg invent and partial develop implos turbin german name zokwendl analyz eros and lack eros differ shape waterwai and develop sophist mathemat equat explain describ book breakthrough free energi sourc dan davidson water pump impel pump logarithm spiral shape coil tube reach critic veloc water implod longer touch insid wall tube and drive pump convert pump motor into electr gener devic tap energi that earth rotat corioli effect tornado can neutral graviti fourth type free energi devic mcclintock air motor patent cross diesel engin cylind compress ratio and rotari engin solar and planetari gear burn fuel becom run drive air compressor thi engin gener lot heat us heat build and high torqu make ideal for larg truck prevent slow climb hill david mcclintock real origin inventor automat transmiss differenti and wheel drive crystal somedai us suppli energi shown star trek show perhap insert each metal capacitor plate and bombard beam particl small radioact sourc that us common household smoke detector energi sourc mention despit fact that not fit definit free energi bulgarian born american physicist name joseph maglich invent and partial develop atom fusion reactor call migma radioact deuterium fuel unlimit quantiti sea water not produc radioact wast can convert directli into electr energi wast steam turbin and can construct small power hous larg power citi and unlik tokamak and laser fusion monstros that read migma work produc watt power for watt put time version page and cold fusion experi that new origin conduct univers utah research stanlei pon and martin fleischmann navi research china lake naval weapon center california direct chemist melvin mile final troubl collect bubbl come such apparatu had analyz mass spectrometri techniqu and found helium prove that atom fusion place and explain excess heat gener good indic that two call law thermodynam not absolut for exampl late physicist dewei larson develop comprehens gener unifi theori physic univers call reciproc system describ detail book such noth motion and univers motion physic univers two distinct halv materi half and anti matter half continu cycl matter and energi pass heat death predict thermodynam law theori explain univers modern orthodox theori includ phenomena that orthodox physicist and astronom scratch head and consist free energi devic tap into that energi flow seemingli convert low qualiti energi into high qualiti energi religi organ such sant mat and eckankar teach member that physic univers lowest dozen major level exist parallel univers analog channel describ book path master julian johnson and eckankar kei secret world sri paul twitchel for exampl level physic univers commonli call astral plane long time member group learn soul travel into higher world and report condit plausibl that energi flow higher level into physic univers creat boundari configur matter channel thi support success laboratori control experi psycho kinesi world such describ book psychic discoveri iron curtain term econom market fail inventor not monei and resourc fulli develop and mass produc free energi equip and convent energi produc desir ted inter govern need interven govern not interven total suppli energi resourc earth will continu declin and will run price for energi will increas and pollut and harm effect includ greenhous effect acid rain smog radioact contamin oil spill rape land strip mine etc will continu increas govern subsid research and develop free energi inventor and univers subsid privat product produc can make and subsid consumpt low incom consum free energi hardwar long rang effect such govern intervent wide spread and profound quantiti energi demand convent energi produc coal mine compani oil compani and countri electr utiliti etc drop forc employe seek work energi resourc coal uranium oil and ga left ground price for convent energi suppli drop price free energi equip start high drop suppli increas happen vcr person comput etc cost produc product that requir larg quantiti energi produc decreas price consum consum realiz opportun cost pai electr util bill bui home heat fuel tourism benefit and increas travel not spend monei for gasolin for car govern tax revenu gasolin and fuel obtain and energi longer us motiv excus for make war convent energi produc busi societi and earth environ and ecosystem benefit greatli peopl that govern serv big corpor and bank for inform answer your question etc consult cite sourc patent articl book alter reproduct and dissemin thi import inform encourag robert mcelwain physic
alt.atheism	christian moral dan schaertel dp nasa kodak wrote back year pretend you somedai will men moon rememb you world flat thi quit extraordinari claim lewi argu that mediev peopl not world flat thi argument wai pretend tell plato that highli probabl that peopl not soul mind and conscious brain make and brain bodi ahead mind even voluntarli action don plato happi thi and paul paul idea quit you read discuss thi group and not preach you that evid favour statement appli theori natur select sacr cow christian origin and human natur don spirit devil immort soul god fact can argu exist god end time prove disprov will time truth hope and and hope and prai that you find your you you you want thi had assum shouldn guess can plant seed grow don you plant satan seed thought thi you haven explain blindli guid light haven notic don thi fair plai god part your argument sound version pascal wager read faq thi fallaci discuss won not plant holi spirit nurish that help grow and that come god and fail had wrong attitud dan not thi spirit exist peopl claim access badli delud not gift petri petri pihko kem pmp mathemat truth pihati finou oulu physic rule oulu kempmp game finland phoenix oulu chemistri game
alt.atheism	free moral agenc bil okcforum osrh edu bill conner write that you can grasp obviou your deviou natur can you find fault argument misrepres gee sinc you entir substanc substanti post you lot nerv claim that don understand talk respond previou post shut fuck you annoi maddi hausmann madhau netcom centigram commun corp san jose california kid don thi home rememb post profession
alt.atheism	free energi technolog articl apr cnsvax uwec edu mcelwr cnsvax uwec edu write free energi invent devic can tap seemingli unlimit suppli energi univers burn kind fuel make perfect solut world wide energi crisi and associ pollut degrad and deplet environ give call you build work model talk stock option privat note jennif fakult thi post sarcasm cycnic ironi humor awar thi possibl and not confus and thrown for loop doubt assum owner thi account not responsibl for your confus result your inabl recogn read your risk jennif
alt.atheism	qur and atheist jewish settler demolish mosqu gaza articl apr doug cae wisc edu kahraman hprisc cae wisc edu gokalp kahraman write thi respect sinc atheist dominantli arrog and claim control and ownership make pharoah humbl decent peopl comparison logic thi sinc and thing exist and stand and live etc atheist tend claim control and ownership you that theist claim not control don atheist dominantli arrog don claim god that supremaci mankind thi claim arrog atheist don claim atheist claim disagr thi claim ownership suprem arrog john david munch jmunch hertz ele calpoli edu heart can chang full hate love peopl allow base live heart can happen danger situat opinion bobbi mozumd describ problem atheism
alt.atheism	cult religion media religion and cult rel connot govern and terrorist group wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	scienc and theori articl new cso uiuc edu cobb alexia li uiuc edu mike cobb write per thread scienc and creation start dabbl into book call christian and natur scienc moreland don thi book will us your heresai question that had come comment state that god not necessarili religi term us scientif term that give explan for event theori proven scientif fact depend defin god understand mean that term preclu us scienc idea drawn understand that god supernatur preclud form scientif assert that can falsifi that can decid that true fals term us and observ drawn religionist interest blure definit scienc make reconcil and subservi basic religi dogma thi pursuit fail point can quot section vagu exampl gave quark and continent plate explan scienc part theori that not measur and can quantifi measur test etc reconcili scienc religion involv circumv tendanc claim that pursuit can gain absolut certian knowledg that domain truth each fundement limit gerer confur element uncertainti and limit human knowledg allow for concern separ pursuit scienc and religion question imperfect and provision answer scienc distinctli limit can meaning question question can pose can answer basi sacr languag place word fail and mere assert disolv contradict bruce salem
alt.atheism	satan jon livesei write time copi text correctli that includ obviou corrupt thi real mysteri matter and dubiou lot sourc theori number place masoret text obscur and corrupt reproduc exactli copi copi dss tend reflect error thi that point peopl began copi text exactingli and mechan problem don that accur transmiss begin point text perceiv text ad and situat such end mark materi lost for part substanti exist text you basic make mountain molehil peopl us game telephon metaphor for transmiss text thi wrong text transmit accur wingat peac god peac strife close sod mango umd edu brother prai for thing tove mango marv lou peac god
alt.atheism	albert sabin wpr atlanta bill rawlin newsgroup alt atheism organ dgsid atlanta sinc you refer messiah assum you refer testament detail your complaint mail you don want post centuri greek and understood you consid josephu jewish historian wrote jesu addit gospel account harmoni that comment josephu relat jesu insert badli editor for gospel harmoni issu jesu you not you speak contradict start trial and continu assens death juda betray jesu act thi man juda purchas field reward iniqu and fall headlong burst asund midst and bowel gush matt and juda cast piec silver templ and depart and and hang and chief priest bought potter field jesu predict peter denial cock crow matthew cock crow twice mark time cock crow mar and second time cock crew and peter call mind word that jesu cock crow twice thou shalt deni thrice and thought thereon wept mat began curs and swear not man and immedi cock crew mat and peter rememb word jesu cock crow thou shalt deni thrice and and wept bitterli luk and peter man not thou sayest and immedi spake cock crew luk and lord turn and look peter and peter rememb word lord had cock crow thou shalt deni thrice joh jesu answer wilt thou lai thy life for sake verili verili thee cock not crow thou hast deni thrice joh peter deni and immedi cock crew destruct citi jeremiah zechariah thi interest matthew quot prophesi that never made not time thi mat fulfil that spoken jeremi prophet and thirti piec silver price that valu children israel zechariah noth jeremiah remot color robe jesu trial scarlet matthew purpl john time crucifict mark hour john sixth hour noon sentenc pass inscript cross matthew thi jesu king jew mark king jew luke thi king jew john jesu nazareth king jew give drink vinegar matthew wine myrrh mark women cross matthew stood includ mari magdalin mari mother jame and mother zebede children mark and luke speak and mark includ mari magdelin and mari mother jame john that jesu mother stood cross sister and mari magdalen jesu last word matt and ninth hour jesu cri loud voic eli eli lama sabachthani that god god hast thou forsaken jesu cri loud voic yield ghost luke and jesu had cri loud voic father thy hand commend spirit and gave ghost john jesu had receiv vinegar finish and bow head and gave ghost event crucifict matthew that veil templ rent that earthquak and that dark sixth ninth hour that grave open and bodi saint aros and into jeruselem appear beat jesu resurect mark and luke speak dark and veil templ rent mention earthquak risen saint john mention jesu side peirc burial jesu matthew jew ask pilat for guard prevent bodi stolen discipl and for tomb seal thi supposedli gospel not mention precaut long jesu tomb depend you matthew jesu prophesi that will spend dai and night heart earth and mark dai meta trei emera will rise can quick propheci dai post resurrect narr dai time resurect matthew sundai dawn mark sun rise and john dark empti tomb mat end sabbath began dawn dai week mari magdalen and mari sepulchr mar 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comp.graphics	donwload bin file unix machin donwload bin file unix machin suppos convert mac format thi file into do mac unix readabl format mention fetch unix machin thi correct explain bin format elizabeth elizabeth strickler matess gsusgi gsu edu
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	redirect print manag file hpcc corp reed hpcc corp perri reed write hpcc comp window misc nctu edu swh apr can can find sharewar can captur window output printer manang you plan thi regular basi connct printer file can becom bothersom window ask you for filenam that you want creat found that put line system ini port section path and filenam work problem that you send job second delet chri cmj acsu buffalo edu christoph johnson pgp public kei encrypt for mass disclaim didn that pgp encrypt mail pgp public kei pgp public kei toxicwast mit edu orwel correct had year wrong
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	telnet termin for window for good termin program that will connect tcp window basic window that connect unix host great suggest peter kock kock chemistri stanford edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support innov you come care hope get usabl product softwar mass let product don major bug releas bug gener clear even custom bui releas that bug fix bui comput system and run window desper sympathi wait innov plastic hous mous didn logitech insid person blasphem and that microsoft hope harsher stricter copyright and patent law for comput algorithm concept interfac and intellectu properti protect real innov hate innov and microsoft come huge vultur and us brute mass develop staff market etc fat innov don that sympathi for appl complaint microsoft sinc idea xerox research center feder govern forc xerox disclos patent antitrust fear for compani and individu great idea borrow larger corpor can afford quickli bring market licens origin innov feel sympathi larri larri week fight monster make that dev ecn purdu edu process not becom monster and you long into abyss abyss into you friedrich nietszch you can even call secondari creativ compani gather togeth bunch knock packag and peddl neophyt appear appear that find that throw monei technolog problem mean guarante solut kenton cmu edu fix broken window
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	window upgrad articl rrhe inn cere kingston cere kingston steve warner write think upgrad beta version window mhz hard disc can give opion such setup for run and oper system like window unix steve king cere window sinc octob releas and that march releas big improv window becom usabl thing you make leap for that you cannot full speed do box mean cannot for instanc run falcon resours intens program do box absolutlei crawl and machin and ram fast do box full screen for that matter second thing not driver for stuff for instanc pa demot run sound blaster nativ support nice mediavis hasn produc driver your disk larg do partit and give rest window thing whenev you want run window program you reboot and log into window type win window stabl normal window good choic you resourc you ram last thing modem work fax card work and never heard unix run killer softwar box unix isn availabl guess come window not for faint heart beta good beta scott reimert reimert mamacass etdesg trw standard disclaim redondo beach blah blah blah store beer cool dark place
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	window und window ybv acsu buffalo edu mongwa acsu buffalo edu kan mongwa write articl apr mksol dseg mccall mksol dseg fred mccall write apr eurom rhein main hein eurom rhein main hein roehrig write not whether area whether window will includ window server that can run window applic remot not you add inform not for instanc your sourc inform copi isn microsoft will not releas version ask not told you insist perfect safeti for peopl don ball live real world mari shafer nasa am dryden fred mccall dseg don speak for and don speak for
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	telnet termin for window articl apr leland stanford edu kock chemistri stanford edu peter kock write for good termin program that will connect tcp window basic window that connect unix host great suggest winqvt net latest version qvt net come version that direct packet driver nf version price quit low registr student registr and nice packag come complet termin emul ftp pop client lpr and nntp client you can ftp biochemistri bioc cwru edu pub qvtnet qvtnet zip upload ftp cica indiana edu recent ashok ashok aiyar mail ashok biochemistri cwru edu depart biochemistri tel cwru school medicin cleveland ohio fax
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	window zip unzip pwb aerg canberra edu paul blackman write articl sol deakin russ deakin russ sharp write pkzip and interest hear peopl us window program that call and stand rest full window version that not call do pkzip pkunzip command russ quinzip window version don handl function do version problem that quinzip slow that winzip choic us pkzip window deni simard montreal simardd er umontr
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	chang startup logo previou articl lourai sea gwu edu michael panayiotaki wrote articl fidonet org doell fidonet org doell write brad mondai april brad small wrote crosspost sinc don your setup copi win cnf vgalogo lgo vgalogo rle win grab thi supercharg window judd robbin great book thi you can put your logo into window startup anoth thing thi window faq your file that faq mine wont work for mend don file limit total size win cfn vgalogo log your rle file your rle file rob resembl view and rob faculti advisor termin mohn view window pure coinci dental richard traina not rmohn vax support view doesn clarku edu want clarki
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	cool bmp file adair atldb dbsoftwar owen adair write articl apr dlss jame dlss jame cum write newsgroup comp window misc path atldb uupsi psinntp uunet gatech howland reston an net bogu sura net darwin sura net convex sea smu edu void dalnet dlss jame jame dlss jame cum subject cool bmp file messag apr dlss organ redrock develop refer apr gmuvax gmu edu distribut usa date tue apr gmt line articl apr gmuvax gmu edu rwang gmuvax gmu edu john wang write guess subject get bore bmp file that window wonder bodi beauti bmp file can share can ftp site for bmp file sceneri file anim file etc us delet give respons kinda wallpap us origin gif call not real artist name and logo lower corner you will vga and thi size for color screen us thi your window directori and not tile hope you enjoi thi for size not post name you email you enjoi dave bushong wang laboratori inc amateur radio callsign project leader recognit product ari noca internet dbushong wang
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	info do msw meltdown progress nice apr bert eec uic edu zmola bert eec uic edu carl zmola write sombodi data wrong sinc mac finder systerm you want call doesn survei tend doubt result sombodi wrote doesn mean correct note that two tabl don talk popul fortun compani favor platform primari applic platform sale not fortun fortun compani don lot develop mac top platform expect that that explain discrep insist perfect safeti for peopl don ball live real world mari shafer nasa am dryden fred mccall dseg don speak for and don speak for
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	question eisa video board perform apr hubcap clemson edu charlea eng clemson edu charl allen write articl ubg world std cfw world std christoph wroten eisa machin and not understand eisa video card match perform isa counterpart for instanc eisa orchid pro design ii fast isa diamond speedstar isn call fast don understand eisa video card aren group level perform local bu card that eisa video card bit bu move data isa bit good question answer eisa bu move bit isa move speed isa bu that mhz local bu design move bit eisa move data cpu speed mhz mhz cpu local bu move bit data mhz and eisa move bit data mhz local bu time faster eisa mhz cpu eisa two time fast isa expect eisa board twice fast isa board not you move data path twice wide differ number clock requir for bu transact two buss isa board requir multipl clock per bu transact typic thi eisa board suppos burst rate expect perform that isa card guess for question unansw expect speed differ and appar not insist perfect safeti for peopl don ball live real world mari shafer nasa am dryden fred mccall dseg don speak for and don speak for
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	emm and window articl ardi cso uiuc edu ardi cso uiuc edu ardi mack write almost exclus run window do base applic procommplu config sy emm load option noem expand memori thread comp newsgroup read that emm load manual that emm us expand memori extend memori sinc noem option that emm devic useless case us emm remov config sy for your eric emm noem enabl system us upper memori and that good place for devic driver do kernal etc thought that highmem sy that emm config sy and load driver high mous vga shadow bio do kei etc haven check mem manag load high and sinc emm window load slightli faster extra meg freemem window run enhanc meg ram meg swap and rid ctrl alt del reboot problem comput not reboot ctrl alt del exit window emm config sy info thi eric
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	desktop font chang articl uacsc albani edu uacsc albani edu write user unusu problem alt tab full screen do program back window desktop font chang back full screen do program and back window font chang back default font not major problem work and font legibl annoi idea thi happen dec machin consol had similar problem recal exit do session full screen mode menu titl had chang scrambl version icon titl font that start happen us icontitlefacenam win ini chang desktop font arial stop exit do session full screen mode mac us similar aren comput weird mark hadfield hadfield wao greta cri niwa oceanograph taihoro nukurangi evan bai greta point telephon box kilbirni fax wellington zealand
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support kenton shaver andrew cmu edu write let product don major bug releas bug gener clear even gener second major releas take care advic base plenti person experi never bui version microsoft thi includ major version number upgrad previou releas such microsoft wait for upgrad slipstream upgrad you bui san francisco granola fruit and nut and you left flake
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl apr samba oit unc edu dil admin mh unc edu dave laudicina write microsoft largest softwar compani planet cannot even comput concept that innov and brought market xerox parc appl osborn gnu and pioneer and led futur comput microsoft technolog leader post thi question nari repli make challeng can come microsoft employe respons thi time guess pretti assur that suspect you come care hope get usabl product softwar mass thx dave you that window useabl you not us window version crash protect wear helmet comput arir air bag expens add brett brett sherron ferrel email bferrel uceng edu cinci catch cat colleg engin you can friend don friend window wittism week that wrong ism you ferrish bueller
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	not post bitmap download post bitmap origin poster quit altern post comp binari window and let good idea post articl number peac mick michael panayiotaki lourai sea gwu edu ac uunet sea gwu edu lourai make window grp file reflect directori ain never wrong
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	leak memori resourc articl csn org richardf teal csn org iriemon write dmittleman bpavm bpa arizona edu daniel mittleman write run win ndw meg memori and meg perm swap file and get exceedingli frustrat that applic not give back system resourc close notic thi explain that window not clear upper memori block program thi post similar back window not free sy resourc applllic that applic that job left applic that applic clean quit util for window will clean sy resourc applic quit mother zip peac mickei michael panayiotaki lourai sea gwu edu ac uunet sea gwu edu lourai make window grp file reflect directori ain never wrong
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	chang startup logo long run discuss chang startup logo for window for week copi method great haven mention program that will for you found cica call winlogo can rememb unfortuant and work real even come coupl exampl rle file creat rle file specif rle format mention winlogo readm file can point direct such beast real directori path mention didn pan mail oddjob plymouth edu vm andi psc plymouth edu disclaim end user softwar that avenu for user week modif programm not user friendli
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	print file print file situat home word for window printer work window postscript printer not word configur machin home us postscript printer and us print file option produc nice postscript file bring work question print thi postscript file print manag work for exampl select print file manag treat postscript text file and page postscript gibberish that can open do window and copi file work not multitask applic run slowli and paus for second pass postscript file print manag can find mention document thi michael clase memori univers newfoundland mclase riemann math mun
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl bgzv uceng edu bferrel ant occ edu brett ferrel write articl apr samba oit unc edu dil admin mh unc edu dave laudicina write microsoft largest softwar compani planet cannot even comput concept that innov and brought market xerox parc appl osborn gnu and pioneer and led futur comput microsoft technolog leader post thi question nari repli make challeng can come microsoft employe respons thi time guess pretti assur that suspect you come care hope get usabl product softwar mass thx dave you that window useabl you not us window version crash protect wear helmet comput arir air bag expens add brett ladi gentlemen thi discuss comp window advocaci belong you john grant jagrant emr emr airborn geophys geolog survei canada ottawa john grant jagrant emr emr airborn geophys geolog survei canada ottawa
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	emm and window articl ardi cso uiuc edu ardi cso uiuc edu ardi mack almost exclus run window do base applic procommplu config sy emm load option noem expand memori thread comp newsgroup read that emm load emm noem enabl system us upper memori and that good place for devic driver do kernal etc emm not reqir load do kernal high you couldn mail messag recommend that remov sinc run procomplu frequent do and suspect emm will slow window charl cballen clemson edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	leak memori resourc interest tabl show resourc applic and back shut thi window user issu applic min resourc us resourc not return gdi user gdi user winsleuth gold word for window lotu art and leter powerpoint corel draw micro design crosstalk excel hijacck imag color pro pictur publish powerlead execut adob type manag skylight number percentag and decreas order thi tabl tell you you frequent start and exit program that doesn give back resourc you continu lose resouc open program onc and leav open btw peopl can add thi list applic watch for doug
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	respond lbuttondblclk objectwindow resond left button doubl click messag lbuttondblclk combo box code class mycombobox public tcombobox public mycombobox ptwindowsobject apar int resourceid word atextlen tcombobox apar resourceid atextlen virtual void wmlbuttondblclk rtmessag msg lbuttondblclk void mycombobox wmlbuttondblclk rtmessag msg respond messag select item list box wrong program appreci jun talk lord window
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	chang icon for program window articl apr uenic evansvil edu toell uenic evansvil edu chad toell write suppos you want chang icon for program window such do you can thi depend wether you replac thi icon that come standard window icon icon manag that come window highlight item click onc click file and properti you box chang icon click you present icon sometim you don present click brows box and for file moricon dll select brows icon present and doubl click your desir icon you want replac icon icon manag iconpow for instanc open icon manag bottom your screen will not block applic icon you replac you found your desir icon click onc and hold mous button pull thi icon you chang and that regard kan mongwa mongwa acsu buffalo edu state univeristi bitnet wxkp ubvm humpti dumpti york buffalo wxkp ubvm
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	leak memori resourc dmittleman bpavm bpa arizona edu daniel mittleman write thi faq direct answer get frustrat and for run win ndw meg memori and meg perm swap file and get exceedingli frustrat that applic not give back system resourc close line delet danni daniel david mittleman danni arizona edu danni work sharewar toolbar found eat resourc and wise person point sdk and specif debug kernel onc you sdk stuff instal thi come you run normal debug swap debug kernel run slower you execut command dbwin and report you you find lot your app you care and possibl peopl app that opa thi doesn make sens repost mail dave dave campbel wynaps wynaps wynaps indirect sharewar custom control sourc
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	for organ for organ program for window lotu organ not bad for calend schedul list nice addit address phone book diari suggest sharewar public copyright email sthong eniac sea upenn edu steven hong email address sthong eniac sea upenn edu univers pennsylvania engin class
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	leak memori resourc articl apr sea gwu edu lourai sea gwu edu michael panayiotaki write articl csn org richardf teal csn org iriemon write dmittleman bpavm bpa arizona edu daniel mittleman write run win ndw meg memori and meg perm swap file and get exceedingli frustrat that applic not give back system resourc close notic thi explain that window not clear upper memori block program thi post similar back window not free sy resourc applllic that applic that job left applic that applic clean quit util for window will clean sy resourc applic quit mother zip peac mickei that your shell hog resourc for exampl open app data file that result low system resourc ndw shell program manag and shell app ted
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	wfworkgroup server deaf observ thi behaviour and you cure workstat wfw network deaf form commun workstat network workstaton can interact time deaf workstat set share disc etc machin ram diamond stealth video behav thi varieti bit network adapt includ smc elit behav us window vga driver diamond driver
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	window and ati ultra mach chip size question upgrad trident tvga ati graphic ultra mach chip quit pleas perform problem window notic that tile bar and scroll bar significantli larger trident card set ini file that can chang make smaller not find faq for thi list mike mdtancsa watart uwaterloo
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	laser jet and window had chanc find laser jet behav window daniel royer
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	roman bmp don post uuencod bitmap you want put alt binari area file larg and crash user newsfe wast band width convert gif bmp program not worth post bmp file kirk membri ag ag industri rutger viamar kmembri alexand rodchenko
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	need do app and window sinc load window two do applic act strang appear that font and page orient not recogn wordperfect do and quattropro do anoth do applic accept font and page orient don problem printer reload quattropro and not accept whether launch window do prompt suggest correct thi problem order quattropro for window landscap applic print immedi mail advanc sue bittner internet nig cmuvm csv cmich edu central michigan univers bitnet nig cmuvm pleasant
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support stuff delet microsoft bferrel ant occ edu brett ferrel write you that window useabl you not us window version crash protect wear helmet comput arir air bag expens add brett you read advertis crash protect such market gimick isn funni month window machin had crash onc and don run mill configur microsoft not leader innov build mousetrap wrong that larri lude ludwig twice clemson univers compsci undergrad you never heard lude hubcap clemson edu appl lude clemson clemson edu steve job
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	roman bmp respons request for cool bitmap post cliff peopl internet pai for byte data pass subscrib new group bitmap larg bitmap cost lot monei special new group for bitmap thi don subscrib put you bitmap place read faq guid newus group and will you bitmap and thousand establish mine that you cost monei limit budget thi flame you distribut usa didn work kenb ken blackler jet fusion jet joint undertak abingdon energi for oxfordshir england futur disclaim note that person view and not constru offici comment jet project
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	wordperfect for window instal wordperfect for window comput run meg ram and meg virtual mem set for window get error run tell that don memori disk space sinc meg free assum that don memori can take run thi beast stealth dave destil mtu edu you caught thi address internet will deni respons us thi mail will destruct second
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	info do msw meltdown progress nice articl messinac iho netcom messina netcom toni porczyk write ajayshah almaak usc edu ajai shah write prefer applic develop platform fortun corpor survei sentri market research survei unix mainfram do msw develop hous app not app sold open market statist that laughabl simpli mean that not shrink wrap usabl app for unix and develop disproportion compar instal unix base you surpris find that not develop mainstream do and window app develop do window week recent print rumor that microsoft excel develop group develop anoth trade rag articl recent group window develop sun sparcstat softpc test work sco unix and popular develop platform for do window and even app do and window simpli not robust stabl for develop work imho and appar agre marc fraioli mfraioli grebyn minimalist
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl hubcap clemson edu lude hubcap clemson edu larri lude ludwig write stuff delet microsoft bferrel ant occ edu brett ferrel write you that window useabl you not us window version crash protect wear helmet comput arir air bag expens add brett you read advertis crash protect such market gimick isn funni month window machin had crash onc and don run mill configur microsoft not leader innov build mousetrap wrong that larri lude ludwig twice clemson univers compsci undergrad you never heard lude hubcap clemson edu appl lude clemson clemson edu steve job sound funni will admit for true window crash time and read mag thi not except each window app vdm and can touch each gener aren suppos window work for you great thi peopl don choic window doesn crash you and you don mind wait each task and not adress your memori do kei reason for us even fight brett brett sherron ferrel email bferrel uceng edu cinci catch cat colleg engin you can friend don friend window wittism week that wrong ism you ferrish bueller
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support lude hubcap clemson edu larri lude ludwig write stuff delet microsoft bferrel ant occ edu brett ferrel write you that window useabl you not us window version crash protect wear helmet comput arir air bag expens add brett you read advertis crash protect such market gimick isn funni month window machin had crash onc and don run mill configur wow you us for singl task word process file load and virtual machin ram friend street gripe that can even format floppi background unix peopl love us multi task system microsoft not leader innov build mousetrap wrong that bad hold gun mous piper throw mice trap work kenton cmu edu fix broken window
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	bmp format mean articl robertsa unix tcd robertsa unix tcd andrew robert write exactli window bitmap format mean data store width height colour bitmap data couldn find th user manual refer materi give thi inform thoma sunshin kodak thoma kinsman newsgroup comp window programm misc alt binari pictur util subject dib bmp creation guid request keyword dib bmp bitmap file format messag dec kodak kodak date dec gmt sender new kodak kodak organ precambiran electron rochest line xref cradl titech comp window programm misc guid creation dib imag thoma kinsman precambrian electron falstaff rochest thomask kodak copyright march abstract format imag creat for us window applic document window programm refer guid thi guid intend clearifi word specif and put recommend altern send updat correct suggest and revis for write thi time keep name document you for your respect thi document copyright thoma kinsman desir postscript version thi document thi inform free you you pai for 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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	telem window funni confus problem telem win everytim close do box telem oper affect file transfer open close window program run smoothli file transfer oper affect close do box can gimm pointer and fix advanc glenn jayaputera
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl uceng edu bferrel ant occ edu brett ferrel write articl hubcap clemson edu lude hubcap clemson edu larri lude ludwig write munch you read advertis crash protect such market gimick isn funni month window machin had crash onc and don run mill configur munch reformat sound funni will admit for true window crash time and read mag thi not except that massiv crash problem exceedingli rare window almost never crash can crash errant applic person favorit corel program hand had crash randomli number time run applic for instanc todai discov download procomm for window run seamless standard vga driver run mill vga card decid that want edit copi quot that want add finger sinc learn not trust seamless fire full screen wino session whoop download finish wino load had pointer hit alt escap back desktop lot font load take good long blam screen trash procomm hang can sorta mous click minim wino session and back fullscreen window session color red and green and yellow and brown blue and grei close thi and back desktop fulli restor sit window open longer connect port exit normal told onlin and hang hung load anoth bad idea shutdown and reboot refresh shutdown close noth happen window list come shutdown huh alright wait second run slow hmm run shutdown noth reboot enjoi checkdisk time thi case part crash not isn even smart compromis guess everydai specif todai us each window app vdm and can touch each gener aren suppos that idea truth program crash will bring system program that gpf window program that fine do and window bring scream halt task protect for instanc wonder print preview window do lock system work fine do even do box window admittedli doesn crash run full screen time thi bug big bit hard window work for you great thi peopl don choic window doesn crash you and you don mind wait each task explain time wait window copi format floppi print and even not long page dump printman per minut and can thing slowli thi download print and not adress your memori do not you mean see meg six for us you want count wino window see meg you count disk cach for for memori effici big issu geo current king intel desktop kei reason for us even fight hand final confid that and window bit hardwar sensit for instanc machin sit run fine machin constantli lock window ran hitch onc crash instal lot sensit window suppos machin that window doesn wittism week that wrong ism you ferrish bueller wasn thi ferri bueller stupid law and stupid normal law
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	window video driver super vga card manufactur sampo taiwan and for window driver for base cirru logic chip contact supplier zealand and that window diver written manufactur driver for thi chip set prefer mail rjwjame waikato advanc ross jame
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	text editor handl larg file titl text editor notepad that can handl larg text file for and jame burk read thi you agre not hold writer respons for evil jburk abacu bate edu happen that befal you time
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl slalp tamsun tamu edu jeffw tamu edu jeffrei waller write articl microsoft jenk microsoft jen kilmer write articl uceng edu bferrel ant occ edu brett ferrel write articl microsoft cliffga microsoft clifford garrett write guess that do and applic come and window app come ironi yep app com app com anoth micro minion hope that long hei rememb good dai run alpha excel word and coupl intern app product support databas client base email front end life good impract mass window and job mass appar you prefer window window you last comment you mean that your knowledg date argu date us alpha msft develop suspect that mass window couldn afford us can you for prefer window stabl faster run app made thi choic releas get back origin question you data rel avaliabl window applic versu applic evid that state support will drop such data grow compani support make point you life term debat point you grow rememb dai kid engag orderli debat parent find and forc act matur manner heap invect and cast rock and dirt clod hee hee good doesn microsoft employe assum you due org wrong such trivial thing net microsoft emploi employe walk into thi place not walk into commerci individu you talk thing and microsoft time appear that voic frustrat attitud encount and that encount hand had such experi read thi thread you microsoft uniqu posit present fact hmm you speak experi user peopl market group uniqu posit present result research upcom and app window and do app part point that work microsoft not mean access such data exist prefer make baseless claim attack poster make conclus will confess time attack poster usenet account not restrict marketroid open fulltim and primarili for recreat purpos yeah like answer question hop into debat make stupid comment you human be thi newsgroup for opress hacker and strand extraterrestri not human alt microsoft human you discount point that not microsofti sell reader product conflict ad philosophi usenet necessarili access info that tire peopl assum that microsofti member borg jen includ stdisclaim jenk microsoft msdo test
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl infodev cam tjrc cu cam cutt write even point stand extent that limit place not such edit control limit limit not limit fall categori reason limit you find alloc edit control for text time good your program design such small limit number global memori handl allow small number that you hit wall wai you hit systemwid limit global handl you abus globalalloc and don that imposs abus resourc oper system system limit question whether not limit reason you haven offer singl argument suggest that window limit reason limit system rick schaut uunet beaver microsoft rich microsoft doesn speak for and don speak for microsoft
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	driver for chip technolog video board need find window driver for video board that base chip technolog chipset actual board scorpion framegrabb made univis base chipset bare support graphic mode hope that driver us mode stephen corbesero system manag and adjucnt lectur memori drive west corbesero eec lehigh edu eec dept lehigh univers sgc lehigh edu bethlehem voic fax
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	util that you remap keyboard win util that you remap keyboard win for pointer
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl twall ncc demon twall ncc demon tim wall write twall ncc demon tim wall subject challeng microsoft support date mon articl vax clarku edu rmohn vax clarku edu write don want run blast window time want delet tree absolut ludicr load hog that delet file requir crane chang tyre car you don and never had that enhanc shell for rememb do and ndo mean come you can expect do cover microsoft project work want you move window win and eventu cairo thi give you reason deliber crippl product sure hold guess you that stink microsoft market techniqu don deliber crippl project hand technic achiev for that ride top do mean you gui reason speed xwindow run top linux similar you gonna fast processor do death amen that damn sight deader for dead product us aw lot and suspect carri twitch for long isn good for peopl us do program mean busi world mike
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support jenk microsoft jen kilmer write delet for breviti point that not microsofti sell reader product conflict ad philosophi usenet necessarili access info that smack that rememb poll that you quot that you had user satisfi do care recal unbias sampl set that post look fud and come microsofti not level advocaci good spread fud advoc your favorit uneth you vest interest success that tire peopl assum that microsofti member borg that action invit thi opinion never defens peopl life post encourag thi imho speak shame that techi employe heat for action perpetr manag and market that talent etc not doubt abil ethic market practic divya divya live long and die slow and horribl death confuciu want
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl uceng edu bferrel moth occ edu brett ferrel write articl microsoft jimfr microsoft jim franci write for fact that reason compani wrote app ibm paid for write app for paid advanc ibm can pai peopl for app onc that stop develop softwar compani don stai busi write app that won gener revenu fact that ibm pai for allow and stai busi app sell wordperfect borland lotu revenu get sale and plan write app you supris answer won into microsoft practic thread for you interest point that won disput prai you for fact don you provid insight into your sourc you that will accept for fact you gave your word even for fact you gain word you ly mon that you emploi competit you expect ask your sourc and give front not make claim brett sherron ferrel email bferrel uceng edu thi give you word name sourc that ibm paid compani write applic for satisfi mike
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	problem wallpap displai corrupt for bitmap problem wallpap desktop mode for bitmap file bigger slightli sometim depend exact dimens wallpap displai badli corrupt rest desktop fine for wallpap bitmap smaller thi problem friend bitmap problem displai bitmap cshow mode problem video card not fault can remedi thi system ram do window oak video card mode suppli driver window perman swap file repli mail and us address sig post softwar mangl address header mazz richard mazzaferri student uni newcastl mazz faceng newcastl edu australia
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support munch and edit point brett sherron ferrel write you interest point that won disput prai you for fact don you provid insight into your sourc you that will accept for fact you gave your word even mike timbol respond for fact you gain word you ly not ly feel hesit word can attribut sourc for thier claim fud and misinform and misconcept and outright li fly advocaci newsgroup not trust unsubstanti rumor claim employe ibm microsoft vest interest divya divya live long and die slow and horribl death confuciu want
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	bit rgb work bit rgb bmp file and comvert and bit imag convert bit imag and bit rgb imag
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	can chang font and size for system mode font size window menu window small can chang font and font size for window comput video card ati expert email answer grzheng vax concondia advanc guo rong zhehg concordia univ montreal canada
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	driver for card dear netter friend brought card ram driver for card ftp cite newest version interest driver for hicolor and true color such driver come card mok mok mail hkuxa hku dept chem univers hong kong
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	can talk window for workgroup system run talk network pc run window for workgroup act server wonder client access can run wfw net util do box talk wfw will lanman client talk wfw daze and confus tom haapanen tomh metric softwar metric inc waterloo ont stick your index finger into corner your mouth pull that corrado make you feel car januari
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	can talk window for workgroup tomh metric tom haapanen write can run wfw net util do box talk wfw will lanman client talk wfw articl found that peopl that lan server client can talk wfw thi true for lan manag don lan server and lan manag share common root daze and confus somewhat tom haapanen tomh metric softwar metric inc waterloo ont stick your index finger into corner your mouth pull that corrado make you feel car januari
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mous newer microsoft mous driver newer for do window window freewar version mike
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support bjgrier bnr brian grier write thi long peopl life you haven convert your think you will not convert thi subject die quiet painful death thi start believ righteous capit offens you kill half net that isn such bad idea pete gontier technolog gurgl netcom
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	remap procomm window can remap special command kei procomm remap kei altgr and such combin plain dirti thi peopl settl for remap function kei don limit mattia
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	teacher for window search for two instructor for tutori advanc window program attend that good recommend email directli paller fedunix org don newsgroup advanc for alan paller tutori director
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	find diamond speedstar driver cica indiana edu driver current version
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	version unix editor for windoew pete holsberg pjh mccc edu wrote subject line look and look empti hand you pervert you pervert not cua power set command for separ clipboard and not ofor kind data window problem command keyboard shortcut quit fast keyboard and us finger digit us editor not want leav keyboard and us mous time special function menu us arrow kei that usual posit hand keyboard situat power and search editor for window bye for bad english
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	creat batch file window sasswb sasswb unx sa scott bass write for window altern archan fairli useless do batch program languag for ibm introduc rexx languag altern bat sure window thing lieu escap bat file and continu singl command across multipl line applic exit system and submit batch file batch file creat fly site specif code store applic design line length for store code and output file bat file charact not for option that command tremend didn redesign code kludg lack true batch shell program languag rest delet followup post add that not window window user excus ignor develop sa institut and compon applic that support abil submit sa batch job interact sa session user site can enter site specif batch profil into dataset product pathnam sa execut site specif sa option etc run time variabl resolv and resolv file written extern ascii file exit oper system and run job asynchron return interact session job submit batch job run concurr interact session design intern dataset record length charact run batch job command reinvok sa batch mode requir charact til thi not problem sinc job control shell languag til mv cm vm unix had escap and enter singl command across multipl line rexx languag standard gist thi sinc thi applic for end user not compani develop thi process nativ sinc post learn that parti compani that provid altern script languag for window window and compani that licens product us that altern script languag had can develop assumpt that come anoth post thi list subject for window that make awk and ksh microsoft toolkit that product separ product part window ksh count site last question heard that remot process capabl shove thi batch job server machin and run nativ command network specif command thi improv thi process you can comment command for scott bass sa institut inc integr system sa campu drive cari sasswb unx sa
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	deriv class object owl defin class deriv object class that insert into hashtabl class provid contain class librari defin pure virtual function object error attempt alloc hashentri object cannot creat instanc abstract class hashentri deriv class object left virtual function that defin object virtual classtyp isa const return hashentryclass virtual pchar nameof const return hashentri virtual hashvaluetyp hashvalu const return hashvalu hwindow note hwindow defin hashentri virtual int isequ const object obj const return thi hashentri obj virtual void printon rostream const hwindow void hwindow bowden wise comput scienc dept renssela polytechn inst troi internet wiseb rpi edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	question do extern join command set do unix box id and scsi drive and wonder us do join command set thing sinc won stick crap that do enforc mimic mount point unix filesystem heard that problem older version do leopard hyperion don work for hyperion live steeven vawter telephon svawter raynet work unix sy admin
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	deriv class object owl solv problem not understand happen th perhap you guru can explain thi for reason defin functin class definit file compil think pure virtual function not defin two separ sourc file and compil problem idea happen function that defin class construct inlin thi problem virtual int isequ const object obj const return thi hashentri obj virtual void printon rostream const hwindow void hwindow bowden wise comput scienc dept renssela polytechn inst troi internet wiseb rpi edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	deltapoint anim desktop hiya get anim desktop for window gift boyfriend couldn wait instal had advertis for and put list instal softwar didn load part softwar load even instal seemingli call deltapoint problem and ask twenti million question system conclud that had system that softwar incompat will give back wast time and energi folk support line nice extrem ignor work window experi instal learn function window dll file send back desktop anim decid fool version dll file had had version cpalett dll date and date and smaller smaller version suppli desktop anim move bigger older version cpalett dll directori path for reason had older cpalett dll window directori and newer cpallett window system directori thi anim editor load and applic packag main applic didn load idea thi occur suggest for troubl shoot darla portal darla shell portal darla cup portal aol kubi aol darlaiam aol wix darla geni kubi
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	strang messag start window recent acquir gatewai machin start window copyright statement flash screen logo disappear and programmanag take thi not happen machin and wonder whether thi featur whether thi relat problem machin system gatewai machin messag that copyright western digit corpor right reserv copyright congruent corpor right reserv copyright microsoft corpor right reserv autoexec bat file thi echo prompt set mous msmous msmous mous path do window app system winapp public set temp window temp winpkt ipx netx login login win config sy file thi devic window himem sy do high umb devic window emm ex noem stack file buffer shell do command appreci depart urban and region plan mail varkki uiuc edu univers illinoi urbana champaign tel
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl timbolc netcom timbol netcom mike timbol write thi give you word name sourc that ibm paid compani write applic for satisfi mike doesn subsid app develop rememb rpi receiv entir expens run machin develop for free and that small fry ted
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	deskjet laser printer copier paper work quit and cheaper hpspecial paper thoma smith youngstown state univers chemistri dept yfn ysu edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl sundaram msuinfo sundaram egr msu edu wrote jenk microsoft jen kilmer write delet for breviti point that not microsofti sell reader product conflict ad philosophi usenet necessarili access info that smack that rememb poll that you quot that you had user satisfi do care recal unbias sampl set that post look fud and come microsofti not level resel survei advocaci good spread fud advoc your favorit uneth you vest interest success that don recal fud exampl tire peopl assum that microsofti member borg that action invit thi opinion never defens peopl life post encourag thi imho for part thi newsgroup attack orient microsoft attack rang qualiti product intellig peopl integr busi etc defens baselessli attack human be you expect respons claim that employe feel unwarr level speak shame that techi employe heat for action perpetr manag and market that talent etc not doubt abil ethic market practic divya divya live long and die slow and horribl death confuciu want
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	displai stream output window owl and want displai output stream popup window perhap redirect cout window altern set separ stream that support output and displai stream output tedit control thi bowden wise comput scienc dept renssela polytechn inst troi internet wiseb rpi edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl dnp new claremont edu tlillei jarthur claremont edu ted write articl timbolc netcom timbol netcom mike timbol write thi give you word name sourc that ibm paid compani write applic for satisfi not queri you mean paid you impli that help offset develop cost paid for entir cost produc product mean paid compani that develop applic give you million dollar you port applic suppos compani question us million dollar for want you post figur for suppos ted not don exact figur and don want disclos thi will that jim franci microsoft post figur million payment ibm borland and that rang that heard mike
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl sundaram msuinfo sundaram egr msu edu divya sundaram write jenk microsoft jen kilmer write delet for breviti point that not microsofti sell reader product conflict ad philosophi usenet necessarili access info that smack that rememb poll that you quot that you had user satisfi do and anoth msdo team member post note that peopl not msdo team not necessarili that care recal unbias sampl set heard number wonder work product support and know that typic support caller posit product figur wasn wander market folk and ask and told survei regist user and post that net peopl ask figur that post look fud and come microsofti not level hmm figur chuck post number not includ find interest that postit info fear uncertainti doubt advocaci good spread fud advoc your favorit uneth you vest interest success that you confus don pretend that msdo peopl that os includ unix don provid and featur don push peopl us msdo even post comp msdo misc that suggest wait instal esp you troubl support overload releas sale total bomb tire peopl assum that microsofti member borg that action invit thi opinion never defens peopl life ain don defens sometim you msdo get respect microsoft mean aren cut dough cooki cutter don alik yeah chuckst and insid info msdo doesn mean that speak shame that techi employe heat for action perpetr manag and market that talent etc not doubt abil ethic market practic jen includ stdisclaim jenk microsoft msdo test
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl microsoft kenk microsoft ken kiesow write articl sundaram msuinfo sundaram egr msu edu wrote smack that rememb poll that you quot that you had user satisfi do care recal unbias sampl set that post look fud and come microsofti not level resel survei had post that survei regist user doubl check friendli neighborhood market type and found two survei randomli select resel randomli select user upgrad regist user databas survei show posit rate jen includ stdisclaim jenk microsoft msdo test
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	hot kei for screen saver hot kei for window screen saver util not easi creat reason that that dad compani anal retent leav comput inform can access employe not allow walk comput screen saver kick that terribl secur system manag won softwar ad anoth program such lock zip cica screen saver for and chri putnam blue devil lover heart euphonium bariton star
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support previou articl jenk microsoft jen kilmer wrote had post that survei regist user doubl check friendli neighborhood market type and found two survei randomli select resel randomli select user upgrad regist user databas survei show posit rate jen includ stdisclaim jenk microsoft msdo test translat not satisfi don awkward recurs delet that bug peopl isn nice window interfac for do accessori cpav defrag undelet notic doublespac crash frankli fairli high rate doublespac crash heard surpris figur that sinc awar doublespac like crash unlik stacker fool gullibl do awar doublespac isn good job do and do good for user bewar doublespac rob rmohn vax clarku edu rob mohn annoi rush limbaugh for
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	understand that true type font window load prior start window thi make get into window quit slow you hundr correct thi think secondli that case can you window ignor boot and make pif file load you enter applic that font idea chri origin chri doell fidonet org
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support for part thi newsgroup attack orient microsoft attack rang qualiti product intellig peopl integr busi etc defens baselessli attack human be you expect respons claim that employe feel unwarr level ignor attack and sale number and stock price you gratif great job you past thx dave
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	suggest for winforwg redirect need find softwar that will port redirect window for workgroup can make suggest reccommend hate write driver for serial port that support network that step advanc bkv
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mous system driver for mous control do window such anim mous system trackbal and driver for thi devic that us mous do window microsoft mous driver work chri chri shenefiel not repres compani shape form thi forum opinion comment repres opinion compani opinion comment even merit consider kind
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	prevent ctl alt del window prevent window user ctl alt del window point direct advanc mike glynn mike glynn busi gatech edu mike glynn stolen sig follow hot rodder complet internet prism gatech edu baffl peopl not into car
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support mike dahmu mike schleppo bocaraton ibm wrote lot common written you gui thing that made success win workplac shell previou version ibm work win ibm work you make laugh write coupl thousand line code make window compat your dpmi implement not make rest window ibm work serg
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support bferrel cicada occ edu brett ferrel write articl microsoft jenk microsoft jen kilm write found two survei randomli select resel randomli select user upgrad regist user databas survei show posit rate jen power and associ survei anonym ftp site pick sucker believ releas survei result product assum that result survei honest result extrem dissatisfact product stop bui do sux not fair that rel peopl decid purchas inclin love peopl expect and not disappoint mean nice that peopl bought happi and import for and don disput accuraci hate peopl extrapol that popul that do comput revolut statist shut peopl and add microscop weight argument you automak chrysler random chrysler conduct survei theori peopl that convinc that point maintain long true focu thi compani inform monei and inform technolog for expedi end bill gate drop colleg couldn afford time wsj couldn wait us knew and make monei bill gate answer thi question highli interest await can stomach bill declar visionari and opportun build cult and sell do and windoz main stai kenton cmu edu fix broken window
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support mfischer ucsd edu mike fischer write you miss main point capit place competit breed excel commod concern imagin that capitalist theorist had softwar mind wrote grand treatis main point capit product pete gontier technolog gurgl netcom
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	disk imag question recent notic directori name diskimag disk didn notic and instal applic imag disk creat win automat creat backup file couldn find document diskimag util imag disk take lot disk space thi peopl instal win backup mechan anib anib mayorga wenark mayorga ci udel edu newark
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	upgrad window appeal net wizard for bit advic gener descript machin follow motherboard utron mhz opti chipset meg memori cach hope drop chip into fahrenheit video meg proaudio spectrum sound board primari disk connor cach id control secondari disk conner slave control tertiari disk fujitsu meg superstor esdi control plan futur disk includ scsi and rom pa scsi port tape drive colorado jumbo floppi control futur tape drive dat scsi interfac hardwar includ modem fax serial port and teletext board ugli do softwar drive applic us includ normal window stuff excel word quicken and turbo pascal window import stuff audio work environ includ turtl beach wave for window mc stereo and misc stuff for dink audio file us stacker primari drive newwav for wife us and won rid and product call infinit disk chili pepper softwar for hierarch storag manag seldom us offlin file plan upgrad becom releas product stongli tempt becom beta user earli don time mess hassl beta softwar expect bui tear shrink wrap and us hassl unrealist can hope can work advic want concern state devic driver and hardwar specif stuff gener smoothli can expect upgrad can expect support for stuff scrambl download driver pa orchid colorado bb etc step ensur instal smoothli note that want nuke do total system allerg command line plan run pure system will commun workgroup lan stacker stacker disk drive stacker and infinit disk product will great difficulti fit system cramp realiz stacker will incompat will version will support compress do infinit disk will incompat will offer compar product for and cost perhap chili pepper that question can live not will run do app teletext board do system feedback advic includ forget good reason appreci signific reason for move multitask environ window reason wave lock machin for hour and hour dsp process larg audio file and want lan support internet access etc solut and hear statu dai pl respond email and interest summar for net nathan gregori psilink
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	prevent ctl alt del window articl hydra gatech edu prism gatech edu glynn mike write prevent window user ctl alt del window point direct advanc mike glynn you you want that win app lock for reason ctrl alt del kill app and back window grant doesn work that come handi occas pretti carefulli disabl that keystrok thought you talk for hour ahead spin doctor domin drohan electron data system ed email drohand cad gmed note view and opinion express mine and not reflect ed
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl sundaram msuinfo sundaram egr msu edu divya sundaram write jenk microsoft jen kilmer write delet for breviti point that not microsofti sell reader product conflict ad philosophi usenet necessarili access info that smack that rememb poll that you quot that you had user satisfi do care recal unbias sampl set that post look fud and come microsofti not level recal jen front sampl set deriv fud advocaci good spread fud advoc your favorit uneth you vest interest success that thi mean can flame you you face advocaci group for kind thing that you preach thi creat place filter crap newsgroup that real inform phil noth post shape form offici microsoft polici opinion and not repres such quot forum philipla microsoft
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mous jumpi mous origin post subject mous jumpi mous microsoft serial mous and mous switch vertic motion nice and smooth horizont motion bad sometim can click mous jump can move mous rel uniform motion and mous will move smoothli for bit jump move smoothli for bit jump thi time left inch thi crazi never had troubl mous solut aha found problem and isn dirt anoth gui kind mous and video driver default vga for window localbu card and load video driver window for mous jumpi driver newer version that solv thi problem bad us keyboard sometim zip cica version version that card sean eckton comput support repres colleg fine art and commun hfac brigham young univers provo hfac csr byu edu eckton uc byu edu
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	upgrad window articl psilink nathan gregori psilink appeal net wizard for bit advic thi sound good question hardwar specif gener respond new and not mail alot peopl want read repli includ mike packard aplcomm jhuapl edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl dil admin mh unc edu dave laudicina write ignor attack and sale number and stock price you gratif great job you past thx dave thi part that get set make monei thing consid and debat that purpos life you will stock price and sale number for gratif you end japanes that competit ow your busi short sight imo thi irrespons narrow mind and selfish henceforth ignor attack not approach matter fact happen willing debat and readjust greatest asset thi societi sale number and stock price short term result not
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	ep clip art sale mailord price librari cost two thousand dollar mail order genuin high qualiti ep vector graphic not scan silli ep wrapper totem graphic color ep librari color ep imag thi cost thousand buck mailord rate thi clip art high qualiti dynam graphic clip art sotmc clip art etc opinion rate librari and librari higher totem art color color librari opinion graphic librari haven count imag you can purchas librari floppi give you idea size thi cost hundr buck mailord rate thi clip art high qualiti graphic librari popular mac mag thi cost hundr buck mailord rate thi clip art high qualiti award major mac mag forgot imag color for worth save multipl file format readabl mac and addition totem will mount nativ easili mount mac filesystem person test machin own machin sold month ago opinion and librari busi and lot totem opinion color librari color art want for can ship certifi check visa charg you pai visa ship pre paid continent ship buyer pai freight and fee reason for sell longer dtp busi respond email telephon rare check new group nevin email npratt glacier sim voic
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	multipl printer print manag articl lanc lanc lancea actrix gen lanc lancea actrix gen lanc andrew write print manag deal multipl printer plan print two printer applic will real printer and fax program will print manag deal job time will feed printer onc research carefulli fax modem behav printer local machin doesn guarante function local machin fax softwar print remot instal fax card thi workgroup and fax softwar didn winfax peculiar don lot special hardwar interact take place intern case fax manag program intercept print job and spool directori not print manag spool directori softwar appear job print print manag plai part handl actual process pardon incorrectli assum thi you trueli network awar fax modem will like requir lot weird setup and tinker good luck
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	diamond stealth articl charm magnu ac ohio state edu vromanel magnu ac ohio state edu vincent romanelli write recent purchas diamond stealth isa graphic acceler card base posit review steve gibson infoworld fast find window driver extrem buggi despit implement diamond technic support suggest experi thi card feedback appreci had lot problem beliv latest driver for occas fire window work great you find newer driver pointer locat paul
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	monitor for window alwin hoogerdijk alwin zen tudelft wrote julio botelho hlbb julio botelho write whether not monitor work microsoft window taxan multi vision and nec thi work vga and hercul card system two vga card system will never work that two us tandem system thi except vga mono dual monitor combo that heard thi jim jame mcnamara member technic staff tasc walker brook drive read
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	vbrun dll marion humboldt kent edu lou marion write can point direct thi file lou marion dept geographi kent state univers marion humboldt kent edu thi not rec humor cica pub win index opinion express jl antar larc nasa gov jon sweet
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	vbrun dll can point direct thi file come visual basic version vbrun dll thx dave
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	ad icon progman ex florian piekert floppi link escap wrote can write add icon iconlist build into progman ex grate for clue and nice dai us program call iconmast sharewar and you can mail and post you matthew simpkin kingston univers primit race you kingston comput scienc asimil
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	solut multi setup standalon easi peter goudswaard goudswaa fraser sfu wrote setup delet final order run your specif version window you simpli chang path includ winmastr and your specif configur path winwif you fanci and us batch file environ variabl menu system thi stuff delet you happen run msdo you us multi setup provid menu menu choic for each person machin power select your name menu will us your person section config sy and autoexec bat set path run your window copi ron temp intel view
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support thi part that get set make monei thing consid and debat that purpos life not stock price and sale product measur success can measur short term long term success case good measur long term success origin post mention thi group that larg number peopl attack and not will accept posit make point that attack emphas and sale product stori larg number attack debat you call highli technic real world peopl don want grep and auck and want push button and job price piec hardwar that not comput smart gui load configur etc etc not and multitud busi applic that exist run window thi and run load complet suit window applic administr busi function novel network run softwar server job quit and had pick window repeat you you great job flame thx dave
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	bit access gatewai csn can duse bit access
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	floorplan layout program articl chemic watstar uwaterloo gmill chemic watstar uwaterloo phil trodwel write desper seek prefer sharewar program assist architectur layout hous floorplan thi exist basic cad program mail don new expir advanc phil trodwel visio run window not sharewar gari williamson aka wwilliam polari orl mmc orlando florida
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and hear endless debat read name call do and window and final enought resours plai coupl oper system decid put two product head head test fellow newspost suggest desir whatsoev us version wont run window app will not run window app enhans mode that larger window app requir suppos beta test suppos heard that beta ftp and wonder knew obtain copi inform onc and for establish for for robbi shererrg sfasu edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	odd mous behavior cowork odd problem mous work fine do applic you load prompt window mous pointer present not move even you load do app window mous doesn work comput zeo diamond speedstar vga run do and window mous driver microsoft switch mous mous reinstal mous drv and can blame thing work differ system and mine mous work perfectli that expans card addit parallel and serial port that problem advanc for carl fink carlf panix fink geni you can laugh you can bet that johnston
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	hot kei for screen saver renam screensav scr ex and run ppost haven chang win ini effect show setup dialog box butdoesn enabl saver mickei
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	question do extern join command articl srg spud hyperion author write set do unix box id and scsi drive and wonder us do join command set thing sinc won stick crap that do enforc mimic mount point unix filesystem heard that problem older version do join command for year good success duplic unix style file mount you will hear lot peopl curs join confus do append command trueli gnarli hack don you will hear peopl that microsoft recommend that you not us join microsoft window workgroup resourc toolkit appear join do util work fine window for workgroup you not chang state join drive window for workgroup session thi includ ad remov join drive window for workgroup recommend that you not us join run window setup window for workgroup thi caveat join appear valid window found coupl applic that don deal filesystem that mount join worst offend word for window get confus you edit and save file join drive creat save file nnnnn tmp current dir delet file and renam nnnnn tmp file doc file wfw write nnnnn tmp file idiot place current directori root dir join filesystem not delet origin doc file can find nnnnn tmp file renam you search your disk system document found subtl problem mk toolkit do box join filesystem present us join temp meg ramdisk mk sometim get confus temp dir and miss file temp dir thi difficult reproduc total join not us thi window problem mk sinc work raw do suggest that you can us join awar that not robust you wouldn real great mount network drive main file tree darn drive letter join won you talk net simpl patch join work network drive don rememb sourc bad join command not implement sinc avoid stupid drive letter realiz that messdo meant for casual even ignor user mount drive file tree confus carri thi into window anoth meant for casual even igor user not famili system baggag recoveri group can life jerom jerri schneider domain jl atg aspen technolog group uunet csn atglab jl box collin voic
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	plai midi music ati stereo sound card run window enhanc mode sound card ati stereo sound card claim adlib and soundblast compat window mediaplay can plai midi file that sound card can plai midi file that belong winjamm midi editor that ftp cica can plai midi file gener muzika cica plai file dialog box pop that music not plai and checkbox ask disabl thi messag futur thi normal set wrong write music muzika and comput plai ftp game dare dream for window cica and music won plai dialog box midi mapper that ati ext midi ati opl midi and vanilla suggest shoulder cry etc appreci john john punshon punshon usask
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	hot kei for switch program manag win assign hot kei for program item program manag program manag assign regard ak ak knutsson email knut tt lth dept commun system uunet tt lth knut lund institut technolog sweden fax
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl klaava helsinki jliukkon klaava helsinki juha matti liukkonen write pose question do user access net find thi featur your suggest impli that microsoft reli sharewar product fill gap do misunderstand your statement sharewar net magazin distributor club friend and bulletin board don peopl problem get hold fill gap do for peopl do servic run window top btw window oper system disk oper system that do can access nf thoma beagl thoma datamark work technic writer thoma cavebb welli gen home wellington long ear make good handl
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support lot stuff delet felt thi bash lost humor peopl post forget that user product not even internet and unix that unfriendli place bizzar abrevi replac comfort abrevi and abrevi subtl differ vendor user tend custom window setup can not command line comput user world product symbol qualiti made life easier and product and that qualiti not care innov thing make life comput heck lot easier you comput user thi world that will not chang percept face unix come decent gui that variat unix will not catch mainstream comput user net not mainstream comput user brian disclaim opinion express mine not bnr brian user develop want comput plai game bell northern research bui amiga research triangl park real work lost
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	winfax file ascii format zhao sparta nmsu edu zhao nmsu edu zhao write winfax softwar receiv send fax pc work pretti problem that receiv file bit map format lot space told program that can pattern recognit raster charact fax file and translat into ascii code store file ascii format you whether not such softwar packag such translat can find such softwar packag public domain version winfax you newest version ocr optic charact recognit built thi mean that can fax letter and convert into ascii that can edit document type found that ocr that come packag winfax not work omnipag profession delrina softwar onc winfax ver you for good luck regard zizi
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	window commun proagram articl lee sea ucla edu victorf wright sea ucla edu victor friedman write can exactli window port can run singl commun program window procomm quicklink commo respond modem command connect final establish manag vick victorf sea ucla edu thi trickiest problem win person run telix for do window fine and wait for win version froever admit except rule instal do comm prog friend machin big problem stuff you lookout for run prog pif never call ex pif toggl lock applic memori thi point readm wri file and critic for download ctrl panel enh and check for your port alwai warn will debug thi thing and healthier check run mous port check port address your bio setup and ctrl panel port setup advanc problem and bui procomm win hope help costa malama georgia institut technolog oit oit doesn pai share opinion internet ccastco prism gatech edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and articl ccsvax sfasu edu shererrg ccsvax sfasu edu write hear endless debat read name call do and window and final enought resours plai coupl oper system decid put two product head head test fellow newspost suggest desir whatsoev us version wont run window app will not run window app enhans mode that larger window app requir suppos beta test suppos heard that beta ftp and wonder knew obtain copi inform onc and for establish for for don question will run window app import question will subsequ version continu run app subsequ window version futur can will futur run window app ol complex and sign thing come thi fall ibm longer right view microsoft code that maintain sort compat revers engin you want revers engin ol applic john grant jagrant emr emr airborn geophys geolog survei canada ottawa
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl igc feenix metronet jack feenix metronet jack hudler write impact ito ibm that left employe base deadbeat suspect quarter boi you silli coupl week brett sherron ferrel email bferrel uceng edu cinci catch cat colleg engin you can
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	microsoft bb number can microsoft bb number that do upgrad manual that number never answer call email
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	solut multi setup standalon easi rhudson gomez intel ron hudson write peter goudswaard goudswaa fraser sfu wrote setup delet final order run your specif version window you simpli chang path includ winmastr and your specif configur path winwif you fanci and us batch file environ variabl menu system thi stuff delet you happen run msdo you us multi setup provid menu menu choic for each person machin power select your name menu will us your person section config sy and autoexec bat set path run your window copi ron excel suggest ron and comment do you decid instal window standalon configur complet directori your hard drive and us do jump specif copi for each user you save meg disk space you us setup and techniqu peter goudswaard goudswaa sfu prefer pgoudswa cln etc pgoudswa cue gift present goudswaard observ
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	card problem post messag time ago ask mous jumpi and doesn mous video driver that week ago help gui instal driver for video card for window had normal window default vga driver don kind mous mine microsoft serial and brand serial mous mous work fine instal driver system mous jumpi can high resolut sinc displai lot stuff screen ami pro pegasu mail for window offic nondisclosur and alot notic driver ftp cica version that and sean eckton comput support repres colleg fine art and commun hfac brigham young univers provo hfac csr byu edu eckton uc byu edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	hot kei for screen saver articl sea gwu edu lourai sea gwu edu michael panayiotaki write renam screensav scr ex and run ppost haven chang win ini effect show setup dialog box butdoesn enabl saver mickei start renam saver vid commandlin option frank
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl klaava helsinki jliukkon klaava helsinki juha matti liukkonen write pose question do user access net find thi featur your suggest impli that microsoft reli sharewar product fill gap do misunderstand your statement call free enterpr system suggest that enhanc do sell give microsoft can period
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl uceng edu bferrel cicada occ edu brett ferrel write articl igc feenix metronet jack feenix metronet jack hudler write impact ito ibm that left employe base deadbeat suspect quarter boi you silli coupl week perhap
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and articl ccsvax sfasu edu shererrg ccsvax sfasu edu write hear endless debat read name call do and window and final enought resours plai coupl oper system decid put two product head head test fellow newspost suggest desir whatsoev us version wont run window app will not run window app enhans mode that larger window app requir suppos beta test suppos heard that beta ftp and wonder knew obtain copi inform onc and for establish for for robbi shererrg sfasu edu you wait you will bui sinc will releas comdex that dai will run window app and window enh mode you can wait you can ftp month beta version ftp nmsu edu thi version lot slower final product you your test mind that singl task system will faster task real power li multitask and can measur stopwatch happi benchmark han whale atlant and peopl faro island coexist perfect harmoni for last year matter urban navel contampl real relat coher natur
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and articl emr emr jagrant emr emr john grant write don question will run window app import question will subsequ version continu run app subsequ window version futur john grant jagrant emr emr airborn geophys geolog survei canada ottawa import question will app don load window futur and question futur will will window run app regard han whale atlant and peopl faro island coexist perfect harmoni for last year matter urban navel contampl real relat coher natur
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and you compar appl and orang disput that big featur question individu power sale window answer that question question even want run and had thi big monster machin run divers set applic run that productvi work your local comput store answer thi comparison you thi battl line will drawn window won singl user war will client server war and entri unix and netwar grant will eventu scale attract singl user and that will phase war win marketplac will fun watch and argu tho thx dave
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	memori absolut memori locat window hardwar that memori map high address and repli email david
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	data segment and memori model usag phjm you wrote firstli window enhanc mode special dll that compil larg memori model told that even enhanc mode window will load dll into real memori below and page lock second question relat static data insid dll multipl instanc static data segment dgroup you can alloc real static data code segment you dynam memori you can alloc data global heap you can forget written memori manag you page virtual memori you can lock block hamper memori manag you can us pointer everytim lock unlock memori block dll disguis ex that happen call anoth task karl karl geitz hauptstr salzgitt kwgeitz link escap tel fax ci bix geitzkwg crosspoint
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl samba oit unc edu dil admin mh unc edu dave laudicina write larg number attack debat you call highli technic real world peopl don want grep and auck and want push button and you mean grep unix case depend and awk you auck mark
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	demonstr creation program want articl martijn lemmen write for program toolkit creat demonstr fast demonstr mean collect screen that demonstr make choic press button chang screen hypertext each screen will question text bitmap and answer button plai music and show anim film heard anim pro and visual basic don can autodesk anim good tool show partner you want give copi you lot advertis let you creat graphic resolut and text frame run film you can make choic and includ music guess that you you interest email vick victor friedman victorf sea ucla edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window articl uupcb hal scott lynn hal scott lynn write alot graphic design work and remain loyal do window mac colleg isn and can scan imag macintosh program that can read mac disk appl file exchang nac that write do disk leav visibl older session want transfer window macse zip ftp cica indiana edu suppos read and write mac disk never good luck callison whale usm edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	your challeng support haven wast bandwidth thi silli discuss flame saniti prevail richard maclennan
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window macse zip ftp cica indiana edu suppos read and write mac disk never good luck can that work doesn read disk read program that read disk
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl new rich bnr bjgrier bnr brian grier write peopl post forget that user product not even internet and unix that unfriendli place bizzar abrevi replac comfort abrevi and abrevi subtl differ vendor user tend custom window setup can not command line you can custom command line interfac you can chang prompt can make alias us can type do machin and directori list and unix don command line interfac throw and csh bash ksh etc comput user world product symbol qualiti made life easier and product and that qualiti not care innov thing make life comput heck lot easier you comput user thi world that will not chang percept thi true face unix come decent gui that variat unix will not catch mainstream comput user net not mainstream comput user decent gui for variat unix lesse motif stuff mit twm come mind pretti standard heck xwindow program run like end user manipul actual window mous and sinc gui graphic and bit easier figur window peopl press throat for time thing fear that will gap normal user run window flavor and power user run unix and advanc os do pretti king can bring copi latest whiz bang program demo friend hous and sinc run do can enjoi agrier gomper gomper edu tfinn crash ct prefer
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	creat batch file window sasswb sasswb unx sa scott bass write anoth post thi list subject for window that make awk and ksh microsoft toolkit that product separ product part window ksh count site imagin that mk toolkit mortic kern system anoth parti add and good nick langmaid nick brimbank apana org melbourn australia
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	sdk ddk microsoft window devic driver kit ddk document blurb state that user separ acquir microsoft window softwar develop kit sdk contain window tool build driver borland applic framework thi copi microsoft press programm refer librari book come sdk and microsoft macro assembl sdk neccessari for develop virtual devic driver steven murrai post behalf brian davi
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl feenix metronet jack feenix metronet jack hudler write articl twall ncc demon twall ncc demon tim wall write don want run blast window time want delet tree absolut ludicr load hog that delet file requir crane chang tyre car don you download som public domain util exactli you want shut thi sort thing includ million peopl don access librari network peopl can work doesn mean that shouldn remedi situat mark
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	stop messag receiv run window applic menu run window mhz meg memori motherboard meg and ad meg thi past weekend simm had instal applic menu do command park till todai park disk applic menu problem attempt park head todai receiv messag stop thi applic violat system integr due invalid gener protect fault and will termin thi messag mean david trolio detrolio andromeda rutger edu unit state can increas revenu punish penal obtain person and econom achiev
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	problem winqvt net and do winqvt net win do for quit problem recent instal do and cannot run winqvt net get packet receiv for invalid port reset messag consol window can telnet window and can us ftp suggest greatli appreci georg kontoravdi condor ccwf utexa edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	heard deltre brandon wise bwise nyx edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support long bash typographi csympc sc leed conmi write unix case depend unix case depend pete gontier technolog gurgl netcom microsoft window put lipstick chicken
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	hot kei for screen saver lourai sea gwu edu michael panayiotaki write renam screensav scr ex and run ppost haven chang win ini effect show setup dialog box butdoesn enabl saver mickei ex for save screen for config default question not tree fall forest and see hear fall koala can that tree tim cpsg tim fox softwar pty acn cato street east hawthorn fax victoria australia acsnet tim cpsg question not tree fall forest and see
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window articl efv binklei mcgill gel binklei mcgill gill khouzam write macse zip ftp cica indiana edu suppos read and write mac disk never good luck can that work doesn read disk read program that read disk not that thi due mac write disk sector set that can read thi hardwar problem softwar cannot correct hope thi help and correct wrong
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl gp leed csympc sc leed conmi write articl feenix metronet jack feenix metronet jack hudler write articl twall ncc demon twall ncc demon tim wall write don want run blast window time want delet tree absolut ludicr load hog that delet file requir crane chang tyre car don you download som public domain util exactli you want shut thi sort thing includ million peopl don access librari network peopl can work doesn mean that shouldn remedi situat perfectli valid point and agre glad start remedi thi situat do and will futur releas you awar histori mid late point view that world and do phase such resourc for do and window for that matter develop redirect theori resourc do support peopl start util and such for do fell waysid window hit market flop futur cloudi and peopl stai do and app move window that point time made decis drop for do window short term and window long term do improv do and result refocuss do and window version take thing somewhat and suspect futur version will offer even term real featur work and real clue cowork dosland that heck lot year ago dave opinion you want opinion person
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	tabl and hplj printer set larg page tabl word for window ask word print laserjet work fine edit tabl content not structur output request kick into manual feed mode for document contain tabl document tabl print correctli and chang document long tabl us paper drawer kick into manual feed mode obviou printer manag replac hppcl file archiv version for and peter peter palij internet pbp columbia edu columbia univers graduat school busi uri hall york
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	tiff file viewer need file viewer for bit tiff imag run window matter altern packag run server top window budget for thi limit end public domain inexpens advanc for john chapman sfu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	tiff file viewer need articl sfu chapman sfu john chapman write file viewer for bit tiff imag run window matter altern packag run server top window budget for thi limit end public domain inexpens advanc for john chapman sfu paintshop pro for window fantast product can handl tiff gif bmp pcx and format displai and convert sharewar version program assum window area standard anonym ftp locat ftp cica indiana edu log ftp us your usernam password and for program call psp ex that regist version and major differ can detect that unregist version pop messag you start program ask you regist onc fantast softwar bit huge imag brian brian kasper aka prison hovercraft full eel aerospac corpor internet kasper aerospac aero org
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window agf agat berkelei edu miyamoto ucse berkelei edu carleton miyamoto write articl efv binklei mcgill gel binklei mcgill gill khouzam write macse zip ftp cica indiana edu suppos read and write mac disk never good luck can that work doesn read disk read program that read disk not that thi due mac write disk sector set that can read thi hardwar problem softwar cannot correct hope thi help and correct wrong you you cannot read write mac appl disk appl disk extra hardwar mac disk can read and written drive softwar thi ad and mac faq file get ask
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	chameleon nf card compat ethernet card and receiv copi chameleon nf not compat latest version number for chameleon nf soemon tackl thi problem for popineau mail popineau es metz popineau loria voic mail surfac mail ecol superieur electricit rue edouard belin metz cedex franc
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support mike schleppo bocaraton ibm mike dahmu write microsoft jimfr microsoft jim franci write note work for for past year develop for past technic superior window that make monei per copi sold ibm and wrote differ and had half memori requir quicker even half memori stabl and thing ibm lot common written you gui thing that made success win workplac shell previou version ibm work wrote technic accur red her bit that sell product weren written you don forget seamless win app couldn wlo ibm manag tom hatton hatton cgl ucsf edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support win ibm work you make laugh write coupl thousand line code make window compat your dpmi implement not make rest window ibm work don brag come dpmi consist hobgoblin etc suppos tom hatton hatton cgl ucsf edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	hot kei for switch program manag articl lth knut tt lth ak knutsson win assign hot kei for program item program manag program manag assign put progman hotkei your startup group
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support lot common written you gui thing that made success win workplac shell previou version ibm work ibm that wrote window code
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	scan can thi instal version mcafre anti viru program and scan entir hard disk messag can open xxxx for coupl file includ wscan ex thi didn happen previou version friend machin thankx
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	window exit problem problem window program sometim save set program manag system corrupt grp file and progman ex can open start for answer chrobert
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	irish gaelic truetyp font synopsi repli irish gaelic truetyp font want synopsi wrote can can find window truetyp font that will give charact us write irish gaelic style for exampl thi font letter horizont bar sit top and letter horizont bar sit top respond question had luck get such font and lot peopl interest gete and decid creat truetyp font fit that descript thi font base that us issu dineen dictionari and typic that found irish book earli part centuri thi time limit spare time make interest readi respons receiv summeris below kevin donnelli caoimhin smo mention that michael everson everson irlearn ucd had develop clo gaelach font for macintosh and advis contact michael and told that font for macintosh and that will eventu port that will charg for each pbryant ukelel gcr mention that two font that nice irish gaelic durrow and american uncial normal don you can don that effect for final rhiannon netcom rhia mention that meath font includ casadi green fluent laser font packag describ fax casadi green for info repli that post newsgroup make font colum twomei
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	diamond window conflict problem diamond stealth local bu graphic card start window system stop and displai free file handl cannot load command system halt perhap bio setup problem not us ami bio setup can explain setup shadow video rom shadow rom and config two advenc setup for utilis graphic card for answer robert
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	sharewar rogram that list sharewar and public domain program for window cica ftp site year list author made sound list updat month updat compil similar list individu suggest sharewar public domain program interest good softwar categori and includ ftp site and exact file name your post sam siockman leland stanford edu will good david broza
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	want hypertext alik for win fact for possibl connect peac inform window system and don want program such system effort and afford small advanc thoma
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window articl efv binklei mcgill gel binklei mcgill gill khouzam write macse zip ftp cica indiana edu suppos read and write mac disk never good luck can that work doesn read disk read program that read disk you can that don work inabl read mac disk not problem hardwar limmit pc post program read mac disk come watchamacalit memori fale card you drop into port don rememb specif tho peac mickei
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support brian grier bjgrier bnr wrote comput user world product symbol qualiti made life easier and product and that qualiti not care innov thing make life comput heck lot easier you comput user thi world that will not chang percept thi fact that msw object inferior competit begun learn life that mass never choos option choos condit glad not kurt bollack duke univers medic center kdb sunbar duke edu durham
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl microsoft cliffga microsoft clifford garrett write lot common written you gui thing that made success win workplac shell previou version ibm work ibm that wrote window code isn thi point window windoz brett sherron ferrel email bferrel uceng edu cinci catch cat colleg engin you can
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	word for window problem us equat editor word for window coupl error messag line can find font extra for default printer charact not displai print instal equat editor reinstal printer similar for font fenc font system unabl us solut avail had similar problem and found fix thi urgent requir jason cleev cleev ieee org comp sci hon elect eng trobe univers australia email cleev lucif latrob edu jason cleev cleev ieee org comp sci hon elect eng trobe univers australia email cleev lucif latrob edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window articl uupcb hal scott lynn hal scott lynn write alot graphic design work and remain loyal do window mac colleg isn and can scan imag macintosh program that can read mac disk appl file exchang nac that write do disk leav visibl older session want transfer window info want window program will gleefulli settl for do program call mac ett you read mac high densiti disk do machin you can program simtel not directori locat jim powlesland internet powlesla ac ucalgari academ comput servic voic univers calgari messag calgari alberta canada fax
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write thi fact that msw object inferior competit you mean that msw object inferior respect trivial true that object inferior respecet trivial fals you mean criteria you chosen for your object asses you that criteria object begun learn life that mass never choos option choos condit glad not comment
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	word for window problem articl lugb latrob edu cleev lucif latrob edu jason cleev write us equat editor word for window coupl error messag line can find font extra for default printer charact not displai print instal equat editor reinstal printer similar for font fenc font system unabl us solut avail had similar problem and found fix thi urgent requir back congratul you discov nasti and frequent ecount bug word setup program onc you wrong quit easi fix into font dialog control panel and select two font extra and fenc delet delet list entri not disk file select add and add font extra plain and fenc plain close font box close control panel and restart word alright microsoft fix thi thing frequent report daniel silevitch dmsilev athena mit edu massachusett institut technolog
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	logic backup back hard drive sinc had instal scratch crash learn hard didn window base backup program norton and began wonder logic thi accident delet file can archiv disk crash not start window run backup program note crash mean error messag that prevent machin boot properli gave earli didn time patienc tool figur exactli problem hard drive need clean yeah thi scenario complic fact that stacker possibl disk crash instal do and window backup program work wrong easi make mirror hard disk that can easili restor state scratch poll open tom ioerger univeristi illinoi grad student ioerger uiuc edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write brian grier bjgrier bnr wrote comput user world product symbol qualiti made life easier and product and that qualiti not care innov thing make life comput heck lot easier you comput user thi world that will not chang percept thi fact that msw object inferior competit thi true prefer window microsoft window do wolfgang strobl wolfgang strobl gmd gmd gesellschaft fuer mathematik und datenverarbeitung mbh schloss birlinghoven box includ sankt augustin germani std disclaim hpp
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support brian grier bjgrier bnr wrote comput user world product symbol qualiti made life easier and product and that qualiti not care innov thing make life comput heck lot easier you comput user thi world that will not chang percept excus you peopl enjoi work win come talk hous mate mine and product life encount anoth sudden appear do prompt cut and past win empti win screen task run esc bring empti list progman leo klingon starboard bow leo mekenkamp scrape jim klikspaanweg leiden netherland mekenkamp stpc leidenuniv leo sthp leidenuniv
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and thi fall ibm longer right view microsoft code that maintain sort compat revers engin you want revers engin ol applic don retain window oem statu that sourc code and sinc window head win win slmr file bank bb pcboard usr hst node rime internet largest clipper file collect world
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window articl sea gwu edu lourai sea gwu edu michael panayiotaki write articl efv binklei mcgill gel binklei mcgill gill khouzam write macse zip ftp cica indiana edu suppos read and write mac disk never good luck can that work doesn read disk read program that read disk you can that don work inabl read mac disk not problem hardwar limmit pc post program read mac disk come watchamacalit memori fale card you drop into port don rememb specif tho peac mickei drive mac and disk spin constant rpm mac disk drive spin rate disk vari that track pass head constant speed slower rotat for outer track and faster rotat for track special control hardwar make thi happen brian casei bnc macsch
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	logic backup newer version norton backup for window emerg disk will you restor tape reinstal do window understand sort cumbersom us not reinstal steven mcclunei remain silent and sam chensun tamu edu thought fool speak and remov doubt can speak for
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and articl samba oit unc edu dil admin mh unc edu dave laudicina write question question even want run and had thi big monster machin run divers you deliberatli overst requir for that multi thread true multitask and take place do and window and requir for reasoabl that window meg ram and meg hard drive space beat head wall legitim requir for fact requir for window and equal natur progress thing for govern gain ground and for liberti yield thoma jefferson brad keplei keplei photon phy unca edu voic dai
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window technolog appl disk ibm read special hardwar disk work alik ibm can read disk andi
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and wait for june roll can hand solari unix for intel chip that unix possibl thi includ wabi window api binari interfac technolog that wil run window app straight outta box thi fli enhanc mode anoth contend for corpor educ market big and complex for home front window mac sy will win wkgrp will fight for small mid busi onc powerpc becom laptop notebook form will migrat into market abil connect unix machin work and run window mac app home real attract alot peopl predict mike mike bendtsen msbendt mtu edu elm apt ccli senior technic consult hancock michigan technolog univers
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window you you cannot read write mac appl disk appl disk extra hardwar mac disk can read and written drive softwar thi ad and mac faq file get ask agre that thi ad sort faq list strai origin topic comput environ pretti split mac and lucki and desk peopl and share data mac user mac user problem packag call do mounter automat let mac read do disk nativ for equivil that mac ett and macse inconsist do platform and requir you perform activ do program select transport file question origin pose such program that hook into window dll that will interpret read mac disk and access standard file dialog quit clear that thi for flopi fisk tfisk qualcomm
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	strang window problem window instal awri whenev run window logo come enter window screen get total screw wrong graphic mode complet illeg function can exit do alt return combin reinstal window you recal halfwai instal process instal take you into window and graphic problem surfac cannot complet instal thi start game work system config sy and autoexec bat restor thi problem crop run diamond stealth vram resinstal stealth video driver luck qemm and stacker window instal stack partit and work perfectli email repli and suggest appreci hutch
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	logic backup articl uiuc edu ioerger sophocl uiuc edu thoma ioerger write possibl disk crash instal do and window backup program work softwar you agre you instal do window and cpbackup function your norton for purpos thi discuss and us do backup command that restor boot system diskett and us do restor read that boot window and restor full backup cpb norton your case overwrit restor that thi skelet window essenti unchang custom real copi parti backup util wrong easi make mirror hard disk that can easili restor state scratch you can put skelet version do and your backup util system floppi you restor martin lodahl system analyst capac plan pacif bell malodah pacbel sacramento usa good for ancient druid runnin nekkid wuid drinkin strang ferment fluid good for unk
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl strobl gmd strobl gmd wolfgang strobl write new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write thi fact that msw object inferior competit thi true prefer window microsoft window do appl appl beta and such cannot accept competitor win not market for for coupl week wolfgang strobl wolfgang strobl gmd btw cute sig brett sherron ferrel email bferrel uceng edu cinci catch cat colleg engin you can
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and articl mtu edu msbendt mtu edu michael scott bendtsen write wait for june roll can hand solari unix for intel chip that unix possibl thi includ wabi window api binari interfac technolog that wil run window app straight outta box will run window and do app that solari scheme challeng microsoft can price for solari app do competit level run solari app solari system and app system can afford unix system high price for good unix softwar natur progress thing for govern gain ground and for liberti yield thoma jefferson brad keplei keplei photon phy unca edu voic dai
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl mekenkamp stpc leidenuniv mekenkamp stpc leidenuniv leo mekenkamp write excus you peopl enjoi work win come talk hous mate mine and product life encount anoth sudden appear do prompt cut and past win empti win screen task run esc bring empti list progman sigh don your roomat wrong peopl enjoi window admit choic mac and window choos window time start anoth flame thread iskandar taib thing wors peach ala internet ntaib silver uc indiana edu frog frog ala peach bitnet ntaib iubac
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support jack feenix metronet jack hudler write call free enterpr system suggest that enhanc do sell give microsoft can period compani don market budget that do for instanc that command never us find addict crack cocain reli word mouth for sale work pretti good your corpor weeni manag type like big glossi magazin that market isn fundament human product that superior do command interpret lot proud gave damn duplic bui outright monei even us ruse send engin compat issu and abscond technolog do mediocr product cheap price back top notch market and vendor agreement mediocr excus earli dai hack had ten year plai interest thought that product that awar last year you access name design and programm easter egg screen includ window name buri file such thing do and asham name fool marri coupl
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	mac disk window gel binklei mcgill gill khouzam write macse zip ftp cica indiana edu suppos read and write mac disk never good luck can that work doesn read disk read program that read disk easiest thi you can send file accross network thi easier mac you don worri lose resourc fork file problem send binari file mac
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support microsoft cliffga microsoft clifford garrett write lot common written you gui thing that made success win workplac shell previou version ibm work ibm that wrote window code cliff you differ window and win help hint run window real mode do box thi window sinc window longer real mode abil run standard mode abil window clipboard abil run seamless and thing ad ibm win run window real mode do box rais your hand final run win rais your hand pictur cliff mike dahmu internet mike vnet ibm vnet mdahmu boca penpm develop ibm ipnet mike schleppo bocaraton ibm ibm person system disclaim not offici ibm spokesman
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl strobl gmd strobl gmd wolfgang strobl write thi true prefer window microsoft window do you compar mike
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	info window file latest reloc your file server winhelp function told search your path reloc window helpfil won problem long you includ path you move applic hardcod path into code that winhelp invok search path winhelp hwnd amipro for exampl winhelp not search your path and that directori you instal your softwar test thi varieti softwar packag move helpfil drive and includ thi path statement result for softwar packag norton desktop found helpfil window for workgroup found helpfil window found helpfil powerpoint found helpfil word found helpfil excel not find helpfil strang foxpro for window found helpfil lotu amipro not find helpfil procomm for window not find helpfil guess thi noth make sens global path for helpfil comment can left lhighlei gozer idbsu edu for jagrant emr emr info thi topic develop
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl mekenkamp stpc leidenuniv mekenkamp stpc leidenuniv leo mekenkamp write brian grier bjgrier bnr wrote comput user world product symbol qualiti made life easier and product and that qualiti not care innov thing make life comput heck lot easier you comput user thi world that will not chang percept excus you peopl enjoi work win come talk hous mate mine and product life encount anoth sudden appear do prompt cut and past win empti win screen task run esc bring empti list progman leo klingon starboard bow leo mekenkamp scrape jim klikspaanweg leiden netherland mekenkamp stpc leidenuniv leo sthp leidenuniv messin roun progman ini gess you tune system that can rememb get blank screen ctrl esc progman ini paramet twink can rememb never win that captain tal
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	info do msw meltdown progress nice bruce dubb bdubb tamu edu wrote anoth comment you ibm consult never heard microsoft send custom engin client organ solv problem wrong not common knowledg microsoft divis call microsoft consult that ibm fe field engin compani and send consult client site compani charg high hourli rate for site consult client paid annual servic contract barton wright molecular simul inc voic bwright msi burlington fax
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write agre definit met challeng bat semant guess thing turn expect hmmm gave two exampl match your object criteria and your respons subject claptrap lame you never counter fact that exampl fit your object criteria wonder plai semant game rick schaut uunet beaver microsoft rich microsoft doesn speak for and don speak for microsoft
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	panason truetyp ad panason pin dot matrix printer instal window printer driver specif for thi printer unabl persuad poxi thing print correctli appear happen that truetyp font don print properli experi show that graphic imag for exampl line draw corel draw print graphicsworkshop for window happili print gif etc notepad and write will print correctli provid font text printer font print truetyp font line print wrong order chang text font printer font problem elimin printer driver for printer snappi name emul epsom and ibm proprint and problem occur kind soul can hell chuf david
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	amiga user find comfort window night amiga user dai work window comfort window had two thing good person inform manag you calendar address book remind list etc roll into clean interfac good file manag microsoft poor standard that left and window and file oper launch program interfac nice text read and graphic view familiar directori opu amiga for can steer ftp sight program make transit window lot easier repli email rare read thi group such jerk that doesn smoke steve lombardi drug and doesn cocain and doesn shoot stlombo acm rpi edu smack and doesn even drink beer such ker ween such jerk that doesn smoke steve lombardi drug and doesn cocain and doesn shoot stlombo acm rpi edu smack and doesn even drink beer
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	amiga user find comfort window stlombo eo acm rpi edu steve lombardi write night amiga user dai work window comfort window had two thing good person inform manag you calendar address book remind list etc roll into clean interfac lotu organ quick cheap pretti and featur you want good file manag microsoft poor standard you shell altern provid parti norton desktop for window for instanc person file manag come window faster ndw and file manag that part window for workgroup even decent button bar that left and window and file oper launch program interfac nice text read and graphic view familiar directori opu amiga for that you can file manag you ndw tool for window etc can steer ftp sight program make transit window lot easier repli email rare read thi group haven decent freewar even sharewar shell nectar nirvana absurd essenti concept nectar world std and truth camu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	experi do troubl post thi articl tin for week you multipl copi apolog challeng microsoft microsort support defend pathet state do upgrad distribut long stori make good read for interest know potenti pitfal upgrad do that notic week plai envorin travelm winsx ram disk system bio version texa instrument vga bio cirru logic quadtel advanc power manag batteri pro texa instrument smart drive cach win do paramet window benchmark winbench lab updgrad do not understand thing slow decid dblspace process find discov interest thing disk perform doubl space and smart drive thing not slow time applic appear run slower interest that command chkdsk and defrag run slowli standard suspect doubl space and decid measur impact system winbench real disk winmark for origin system ship factori do and windoww upgrad do effect perform degrad percent not surpris knew that compress cost specif for short sequenti read byte improv transfer rate cpu faster cpu cycl need for compens save cycl for case larg random write transfer time long perform depend type access random sequenti small larg transfer unit averag base winbench assumpt disk slow half speed test alon real mode winbench and smartdrv not that help put into subject statement notic differ perform even that will speed disk access you fast cpu and slow disk thi explain applic ran markedli slower not chkdsk and defrag long doubl space and window dblspace will not run window not even you want inform not modifi for that matter even check usag fasthelp dblspace do box window and you will mean error messag you narrow mind can program thi inform can obtain mstool add file manag thi mstool dll not understand compress floppi us do supplement util creat compress floppi you dont do defragment incompat apm defragment time even wait patient till finish and ran confirm thi confirm dblspace def command for drive second faster defragment us minut discov that move mous defragment check ran faster figur tick rapidli dawn that thi had batteri saver advanc power manag apm modul slow clock think that cpu idl and thought defragment idl process disabl power saver thi oper second microsft programm and gatewai nomad user idiot readm txt file you can find run microsoft backup and gatewai nomad comput avoid conflict turbo featur and microsoft backup for window do add switch devic command your config sy that load batteri pro file you run microsoft backup type setpow command prompt you check manual option you will realis that mean disabl power save featur your notebook want run driver disabl found not power manag interfer microsoft backup readm txt claim chkdsk and dblspace and crippl power saver obviou that not such thing apm specif such thing microsoft programm programm dont read specif you dont guess idiot you run advanc power manag util power ex do you check statu power manag statu set adv max cpu idl time thi figur steadi state notebook run noth window program manag iconis form that mean that window take cpu for and that left for work such overhead justifi whether not window oper system anoth user interfac do alon report idl time window good exampl busi wait type packag that student studi classic neg exampl time microsoft programm not batch program structur startup script and equival addpath statement thi set path do set path etc bin path bin set path etc window path window set path path bcc bin set path path mous even do instal directori do do instal program modif each and path statement and prepend do result result path do instal program want remov do path and add do path scan for path statement conta do directori and replac do path even thi do instal directori upgrad microsoft programm you can call thi person decid meddl path statement had autoexec and prepend do microsoft despar that not fire programm incap thought process start thread thi do and microsoft repres singapor call thi poster fact specif counterpart poster and relai inform not access internet that not chang bit fact you path statement path not obviou that thi statement not touch for reason anoth exampl inabl microsoft programm understand batch program had mous driver invok set mous etc mous set path path mous loadhigh mous mous guess memmak replac last statement etc mous mous difficult replac loadhigh and paramet touch rest line not understand do softwar qualiti do oper system normal usag you end creat file that you cannot rid command that come deliber cryptic thi challeng microsoft us programm catch thi bug and publish dont week will post you can creat thi ghost file sure can pick thi bug even for command twice two dozen microsoft idiot programm randomli bang keyboard week find that told microsoft test qualiti product funni that microsoft found wai test qualiti accept industri that qualiti cannot test can built into product cannot provid form guarante product not even decent list bug that will prevent score user destroi disk repair you run dblspace def repeatedli disk fulli defrag you error that creat defragment sy 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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	amiga user find comfort window articl ada fitz cornel edu stlombo eo acm rpi edu steve lombardi write night amiga user dai work window comfort window had two thing good person inform manag you calendar address book remind list etc roll into clean interfac prefer infoselect strang kind pim good file manag microsoft poor standard that left and window and file oper launch program interfac nice text read and graphic view familiar directori opu amiga for thing you file manag window simpli doubl click drive icon that you window work fallaci you can drag file window icon tree left side window and drive icon thi beat your left and window you can open you two you can launch app file manag doubl click execut icon you can launch applic and open document file doubl click document file icon provid you associ set correctli thi easili menu brows capabl add lot function you name your text file txt and point gif tiff etc file paintshop wingif thi take care your requir for text read and graphic view prefer file manag shell set associ you directori opu half good file manag pretti good file manag you understand thing iskandar taib thing wors peach ala internet ntaib silver uc indiana edu frog frog ala peach bitnet ntaib iubac
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	biobliographi program info need post info biobliographi program two month ago don rember detail softwar organ literatur refer for scientif public function data base manag print special format for journal info appreci ming wang radiat laboratori univers notr dame wang edu
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	can instal printshop delux window norton desktop
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	amiga user find comfort window articl ada fitz cornel edu stlombo eo acm rpi edu steve lombardi write stlombo eo acm rpi edu steve lombardi subject amiga user find comfort window date gmt night amiga user dai work window comfort window had two thing good person inform manag you calendar address book remind list etc roll into clean interfac good file manag microsoft poor standard that left and window and file oper launch program interfac nice text read and graphic view familiar directori opu amiga for written file manag hfm wich two window compar file two directori find wether equal similar file import oper copi move delet show file start progam navig directori tree can invok drag directori entri mous thi conveni select file and oper perform occur move for bitmap graphic view program vpic can integr for spreadsheat and databas file us view program pctool hfm can configur us arbitrari viewer show special data format present archiv pkzip etc simul subdirectori thi filemanag somewhat standart user interfac convieni us and prefer file manag lab univers drawback thi filemanag do program and develop window version not begun us program packag run zip run tell window companion sched ex window program start thi you can start window program dosbox version releas includ command for autom thi window program start ftp archiv for mention program archiv mirror site simtel oak oakland edu filutl hfm zip gif vpic zip garbo garbo uwasa dirutil hfm zip cica ftp cica indiana edu util run zip andrea helk molekular genetik universitaet heidelberg germani email geniu embnet dkfz heidelberg header thi post not valid smtp mail address
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	ati avi driver articl qfwynh rzvpv andrew cmu edu andrew houghton andrew cmu edu write notic ati had post beta avi driver for mach board compuserv had chanc tgo work home bu version graphic pro can stretch avi window and will continu plai back smoothli drop frame machin even attempt such thing mean frame updat second isa graphic zoom percept perform penalti perform except intel indeo board overlai doesn move decompress data isa bu point john munsch
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	winprint real deal netter recenlti aquir monei purchas laser printer dai bought comput shopper mag printer review section and notic winprint machin incred low price for featur dpi meg ram postscript compat envelop print question price cheap appricai pass knowledg thi subject alot dave donut girl friend
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support tim glauert thg cam orl wrote articl new duke edu kdb teer acpub duke edu kurt bollack write tim glauert thg cam orl wrote articl new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write thi fact that msw object inferior competit you mean that msw object inferior respect trivial true that object inferior respecet trivial fals you mean criteria you chosen for your object asses you that criteria object that inferior make product inferior competit appl system nextstep unix xwindow pick your favorit flavor word your opinion that msw inferior competit that not msw object inferior technic inferior gui that list describ briefli system easier learn and us independ studi that effect can run msw applic and stabl multitask nextstep easier learn us and program stabl multitask unix easi learn and us stabl multitask prpoer setup will exchang data msw machin msw machin will interoper not issu thi criterion inferior you anoth perhap incorrect you pick glove kurt bollack duke univers medic center kdb sunbar duke edu durham
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc	epson stylu inform hand experi epson bubblejet printer stylu interest hear work window presum that special printer driver requir suppli standard print that standard postscript laserprint for repli georg georg bolt dept psycholog univ york
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl tasvi lll winken llnl gov fuess write for window prior had us for earli problem sinc prefer oper system nah window oper system window motif geowork desqview sharewar win boss librari and that name text base window system written applesoft that ran faith appl note similar reli underli real imho window system and that cooler whai
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	smartdrv and dblspace recent articl rcaldrn med miami edu richard calderon write receiv gatewai window and do ran time appar problem decid give doubl space compress drive problem decid load window minut second load dblspace second dblspace tinker machin and notic error messag smartdriv cannot work dblspace not unreason sinc smartdrv packag do version make that your driver himem emm smartdrv execut do directori loss cach provid smartdrv your problem not don startup delai testb for dblspace minim amount data disk that don eat time instal and uninstal dblspace boot second start do herald end autoexec bat execut don handi system realist volum data time joe morri mitr
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support sinc start thi twist thi thread kdb teer acpub duke edu kurt bollack write that inferior make product inferior competit appl system nextstep unix xwindow pick your favorit flavor word your opinion that msw inferior competit that not msw object inferior technic inferior gui that list describ briefli you fell into you you had us rest thi post your previou post not agru you system easier learn and us independ studi that effect can run msw applic and stabl multitask nextstep easier learn us and program stabl multitask unix easi learn and us stabl multitask not competit for window imho system not run intel box nextstep expens competitor window not unix except will requir user spend larg sum monei upgrad applic that run and basic monei speak louder you stabl multitask you mean not multi finder gem geowork oper multi task real honest good priorit pre emptiv multi task prpoer setup will exchang data msw machin msw machin will interoper not issu basic thi moot sinc user share data for quit long time blind thi criterion inferior you anoth perhap incorrect you pick glove pick you state reason your opinion state straight forward protect manner and earlier comment competitor agreement tim glauert agre wait and disclaim opinion express mine not bnr brian user develop want comput plai game bell northern research bui amiga research triangl park real work lost
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write system easier learn and us independ studi that effect can run msw applic and stabl multitask nextstep easier learn us and program stabl multitask unix easi learn and us stabl multitask customiz can make comput want msw microsoft bind control left mousebutton type world not that want that tjl
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	smartdrv and dblspace articl rcaldrn epistat rcaldrn med miami edu richard calderon write receiv gatewai window and do ran time appar problem decid give doubl space compress drive problem decid load window minut second load dblspace second dblspace tinker machin and notic error messag smartdriv cannot work dblspace reason for chang smartdrv ex includ window smartdrv ex includ do compat dblspace you run smartdrv your do directori
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	pctool for window demo download pctool demo compuserv upload cica ftp site dean elroi edu
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	afterdark startrek memori articl informix jerri doodl informix write startrek version afterdark run report space memori float across top screen not set correctli ram jerri you doesn work correctli space last frontier across top john grant jagrant emr emr airborn geophys geolog survei canada ottawa
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl new duke edu kdb teer acpub duke edu kurt bollack write rick schaut rich microsoft wrote articl new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write agre definit met challeng bat semant guess thing turn expect hmmm gave two exampl match your object criteria and your respons subject claptrap lame you never counter fact that exampl fit your object criteria repeat you mention you present innov concept brought market effici basic basic exist and effici not origin ol concept that bring document orient comput mac had that msw you simpli haven made your point burden proof you exact challeng comput concept brought market noth noth explain your exampl fit that criterion hmm comput geek includ that inov not limit softwar hardwar true product not boast featur that invent product vendor trueli innov continu develop make special public thier innov price true xwindow mac featur thier gui that peopl can afford true that appl lower price low end model that low end system oper system machin oper expens for tast unix platform power enuf common user set xdefault confus thing and puke faint low price aint innov come for product offer and lower cost and power hardwar that run compar mac kinda innov yea guess fact that support product and applic garner for mswindow make kinda innov dixon dly joul ele calpoli edu dly obo calpoli edu electr and electron engin cal poli slo
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	info menu choic file manag articl shenoi vincent iastat edu shenoi iastat edu shiva shenoi write trintex charl tinman dev prodigi charl emmon write descript file manag info menu option edit winfil ini file section addon great add two line addon section exist add second line addon info files dll note that files dll part window resourc kit you instal and you can download cica will make kartik you quot articl rememb trim essenti anant kartik mithal akm uoregon edu network manag student comp scienc oregon eugen fax
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	pctool for window demo elroi edu burri dean write download pctool demo compuserv upload cica ftp site dean elroi edu don demo program and for past week sinc do don us featur pct win us pct desktop drag and drop print folder folder and multipl desktop file manag superior win pat president ppresid cln etc
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	captur screen shot articl acorn wrote captur colour screenshot window press print screen copi screen clipboard past clipboard into window paint packag for repli receiv thi coupl peopl suggest paint packag work properli end advic paintshop pro cica indiana edu philip practic random kind and senseless act beauti
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	head head win and articl eh balsam unca edu keplei photon phy unca edu write articl samba oit unc edu dil admin mh unc edu dave laudicina write question question even want run and had thi big monster machin run divers you deliberatli overst requir for that multi thread true multitask and take place do and window and requir for reasoabl that window meg ram and meg hard drive space beat head wall legitim requir for fact requir for window and equal exquis sinc mankind twice equal natur progress thing for govern gain ground and for liberti yield thoma jefferson brad keplei keplei photon phy unca edu voic dai wim van holder katholiek universiteit leuven tel depart fax dekenstraat leuven mail wimvh liri tew kuleuven belgium fdbaq kuleuven
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	termin woe vlb machin wang fax modem window termin applic can modem chang back and chang work fine set port us don plug into and look manual for worth miss modem jumper for irq understand mean can us second serial port and modem time not second serial port procomm for do see modem and dial doesn connect end answer don that help brian reed bdr cbnewsg att
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	ati graphic ultra pro problem problem dell ati graphic ultra pro eisa start window time run applic not start window will show error messag error execut applic not memori run applic applic want run will start and problem chang video driver mach thi problem not occur suspect ati driver build and build driver clue van harten philip research laboratori tel prof holstlaan fax eindhoven email vharten prl philip netherland
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	challeng microsoft support articl new duke edu kdb sunbar duke edu kurt bollack write tim glauert thg cam orl wrote word your opinion that msw inferior competit that not msw object inferior technic inferior gui that list you start defin your criteria thi criterion inferior afraid that you haven prove that you shown that aspect msw technic inferior system earlier thi you trivial true aspect msw technic superior each system resourc requir performac devic support printer support gui etc btw love studi show that unix easi learn window even agre that balanc msw technic inferior competit thi not prove your point you anoth perhap incorrect rang applic base cost cost applic cost hardwar multi platform support qualiti sale servic avail book train materi support for visual and physic handicap suitabl for us mobil comput qualiti document you that technic excel factor decid primari factor you
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	correct microc origin packag upload cica recent upload cica current version work model microc origin scientif and technic graphic and data analysi packag for window work model and put promo messag hardcopi larg ident full version save origin file disabl you can save ascii data set produc origin expir date sept you ftp cica indiana edu directori pub win upload origin zip file origin zip incomplet bout that includ std disclaim tom carter carter photon cem msu edu michigan state univers carter msucem bitnet chemistri depart
comp.os.ms-windows.misc	enchac mode scsi disk remov id drive and reform two scsi disk us boot disk system that run window fine enhanc mode meg ram and adaptec bio enabl system run fine and run window standard mode fine return do prompt run mode emmexclud and sysrombreakpoint advanc hal view
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	port standard port address for port standard sort mail don read thi group mark tomlinson mark garden equinox gen
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	id cabl vacsc vax csun edu wrote bought id hard drive for system had problem thi system had id cabl for drive had bui cabl two drive connector and switch cabl problem hard drive manual refer match pin cabl pin drive and pin id card for life cannot figur plug cabl align id drive that dealt had pin label print circuit board thi suffici determin side your id drive not label you can for polar notch receptacl connector drive pin receptacl center polar that rectangular notch wide posit center side you can identifi pin follow into pin notch top pin top drive thi power connector for pin pin control you can us criteria hard for label pin onc you end pin pin oposit end you set you pin end connect pin end you don even cabl trace pin side cabl pin cabl identifi color red bewar cabl maker not care thi cabl pin mark red polar connector thi doesn matter you can plug cabl and you decid side pin secondli cabl connector two end and figur end control and two into drive matter plug into master drive and into slave appreci doesn matter get plug matter drive jumper will option two jumper that you concern drive jumper will select whether drive slave master master second jumper select whether not slave present you will consult docuement that you drive you not docuement call manufactur hotlin number fax number thi kind inform routin need peopl will fax you complet info jumper you don conveni access fax machin you can voic post specif question thi group won you good luck gordon lang
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	you cornel system subject wonder net had experi cornel comput system california check comput shopper and good balanc servic price and hardwar question reliabl mail respons appreci adam ubvm buffalo edu
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	dfi handi scanner talk dfi handi scanner model and bit softwar run do us make extens us thi devic write driver for unix can give descript talk thi devic connect system interfac card info can difficult talk brian walli tusc comput system pty
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	number ethernet card tigger djohnson moos uvm edu wrote pin configur softwar program chang number ethernet card advanc dave tigger djohnson moos uvm edu tigger wonder thing dave johnson you mean ethernet number byte ethernet uniqu electron serial number esn assign each ethernet board exist thi physic layer concept address higher layer protocol analog telephon servic address your phone number wire pair cabl pole unknown you physic identif scheme number answer your question assum you meant ethernet number not suppos chang number manufactur can retro fit board reason that your question refer address definetli changabl strictli softwar gordon lang
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	themax vga opinion wonder opinion themax svga card purchas due great price boast million true color onboard you thi card respond mail thi group overwhelm time post advanc john anderson view express nebraska omaha and occasion omaha nebraska usa internet flick cwi unomaha edu correct
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	video card address articl myzn pue austin ibm lanc hartmann austin ibm lanc hartmann write articl qmrdd umcc umcc umich edu jon umcc umcc umich edu jon zeeff write add second base video card system compani that sell card that can coexist anoth color text monitor and fast color graphic configur address for worth haven confirm diamond tech rep told that base video card us port address and thi true appear that you cannot us card your system base card market that support multipl adapt system bu isa version compani call metheu address and phone number metheu corp ogc scienc park compton beaverton awar thi high end card capabl vram not come cheap person two board run dual screen window lanc hartmann lanc hartmann austin ibm ibmpa awdpa ibm that percent sign network address statement comment opinion etc reflect author and not misconstru ibm for that matter mark hall intergraph corpor huntsvil mhall habu ingr
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	sale scsi card scsi card for sale manual softwar and cabl make your offer thi gyro ucsd edu
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	mitsumi and pro articl apr elroi edu elroi edu guillot write articl apr zip eec umich edu grover emunix emich edu grover thoma write poke pin connector and replac correct slot thi reveris you can unpok easi you poke yep thi trick us tini screwdriv and push latch each pin and pull connector label each tape you don confus you pull compar pinout tabl mitsumi and soundblast manual correct orient arlen martin att attm stcarm
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	keyboard never die almost asham thi question faq couldn find answer origin ibm kei keyboard opinion keyboard function kei place left place firm click etc chanc connect modern clone understand that keyboard function typemat repeat rate programm etc seam that pin electr spec and keyboard commun protocol answer mail you can that absolut imposs that case will bring keyboard museum obsolet technolog duco duco fijma tel univers twent fax box internet fijma utwent ensched netherland ugli pictur thi sig
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	id scsi dma and detach articl apr julian uwo wlsmith valv heart rri uwo wayn smith write articl richk apr gozer grebyn richk grebyn richard krehbiel write can explain fairli simpl term scsi control id will perform suffer that for drive don tape drive rom appreci you multi task you want increas perform increas amount overlap you dma bu master make for devic move data into and memori interrupt cpu altern for cpu move data scsi interfac card that dma and bu master you bu master isa bu id defin standard interfac creat for ibm requir cpu move data byte dma talk isa bu you can dma channel activ time transfer data singl devic even you can devic scsi bu explain devic can dma transfer singl scsi card isa bu time scsi card dma transfer not disk scsi card can dma transfer contain data scsi devic attach import featur scsi abil detach devic thi free scsi bu for devic thi typic us multi task start transfer devic each devic seek data bu free for command and data transfer devic readi transfer data can aquir bu and send data id bu you start transfer bu busi disk seek data and transfer thi typic second lock for process want bu irrespect transfer time track copi ibm refer book technic manual page fdd adapt buffer bu and system board direct memori access dma for record data transfer expect similar for hdd adapt lowli low densiti origin fdd card us dma and hdd control doesn that make real sens gui dawson hoskyn group plc guyd hoskyn tel hoskyn guyd austin ibm tel ibm austin usa
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	monitor close power sourc thi monitor set approxim feet power enter hous fuse box thi safe for monitor will can emf emit current eventu affect monitor and damag perman degauss fix tom catalino
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	datasav videostream week ago german magazin call videostream thi interfac parallel port and video record for back your data videotap compani datasav claim that can store minut tape cost usd question us thi product byte fit minut tape sound quit unbeliev comment interfac appreci mail your repli directli will sum neccesari advanc gerhard gwesp cosi sbg
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	mitsumi and pro articl apr elroi edu elroi edu guillot write articl apr zip eec umich edu grover emunix emich edu grover thoma write poke pin connector and replac correct slot thi reveris you can unpok easi you poke thi method base respons peopl klutz probabl chang connector end destroi connector put heat shrink tube individu pin and plug into connector correct order work great thi thi turn fine sound easi base peopl experi attempt not john john man opinion express man csc enet dec not repres digit equip
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	orchid vlb seek comment purchas that orchid vlb mother board system vlb id and fahrenheit video board haven heard bad comment thi board comment good bad thi board thi board primarili orchid reput and long stand field for and comment bob jone
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	promplem panason printer folk panason inherit document give problem that resolv paper light refus start blink turn power beep line green light lit simultan red paper light remain lit not blink not give refer manual dont thank you advanc sincer dharmesh
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	bit dma failur system halt mhz isa board kbyte cach and meg ram bought soundblast and instal card bit dma channel select channel card instal that bit dma transfer test card time comput crash and pariti error system halt thi happen do window that bit dma channel not work properli testsb ex recocn and test access solut for thi problem special test program for dma problem elimin problem temporali bit dma channel make system slow for your marku
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	pariti error system halt idea you fail mention error occur pariti error check enabl disabl assum you mean you pariti error enabl and not disabl high will count memori check boot thi error occur system beep pattern beep error occur cach memori not like video memori simm fact that you ami bio not conclus determin board manufactur board made thousand small taiwanes compani that bui name brand chip and put togeth simm socket make your board tend doubt your problem your id control perhap you answer question can you mrb boltz vivaldi psu edu mrb psuvm psu edu
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	can give jumper set rll hard drive and anoth hard drive control machin can kind soul mail jumper set for that board thi advanc jerri signatur
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	trident driver for win fast eddi felson jmarttila finabo abo wrote trident svga card lack suitabl driver for window driver for seri incompat idea driver address for ftp site nice advanc jouni jouni marttila kyl turku finland jmarttila abo jmarttila finabo abovax jmarttila jjmartti utu pgp kei finger jmarttila abo you can find driver wuarchiv wustl edu msdo window sub directori file call tvgawin zip and tvgawin zip latest driver tmc tmc spartan brocku
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	ati build driver good hofkin softwar org bob hofkin write build except exit window fact had thi happen build ship gatewai system wrong thi problem commonli overlook never had except build driver scott linn scott hpcvccl
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	cpu temperatur cpu activ articl apr ucc montuno physic lino montuno write thi naiv question basi for claim that cpu will hotter computation intens job run friend claim that will differ temperatur idl cpu and cpu run computation intens job depend idl cpu not do multitask oss loop thi loop goto loop goto loop cpu not work process instruct will respond interupt lino montuno gui gui dawson hoskyn group plc guyd hoskyn tel hoskyn guyd austin ibm tel ibm austin usa
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	micro solut backpack not work properli problem micro solut backpack sometim work sometim doesnt will start backup start tape format and percent error tape bad backup format abort for unknown reason turn and wait half hour work fine tape backup warm had similar experi kevin
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	bb read bb back that bb start for gatewai bb start and you newsgroup name send inform mail mail address joe west ld loral joe west
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	amd clone legal wyman rtsg mot mark wyman write poe wharton upenn edu write friend mine call phone and told wathc cnn and report that rule prohibit amd sell clone thrown make legal for amd ship yep thi new great new for consum bad new for intel stock drop quit chunk announc scott linn scott hpcvccl
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	modem and noisi line us lot line nois problem baud modem sudgest put toriod transform line thi easili get larg toroid core your local electron shop toroid core ceram metal donut and wind telephon line center core and six time thi easi and cheap fix that not hassel us sofwar fix hardwar problem talk yah mark mark zander sheridanc
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	bio fix for diamond world post heard bug dss and driver hear that diamond ship bio replac peopl that fix lot problem driver can mine advanc phil poe wharton upenn edu
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	id hd volker voeck voeck informatik muenchen wrote problem combin two id hard disk seagat and quantum lp singl hard disk work fine connect togeth control doesn work question succes such hard disk togeth and jumper set and bio sett us that control reason for troubl thing that id harddisk control harddisk can such control control case advanc volker id drive jumper master slave master second jumper slave present set correctli each drive manufactur spec ific cmo setup almost posit not problem not control id control support exactli two drive maximum check jumper gordon lang
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	cpu temperatur cpu activ articl austin ibm guyd austin ibm gui dawson write articl apr ucc montuno physic lino montuno write thi naiv question basi for claim that cpu will hotter computation intens job run friend claim that will differ temperatur idl cpu and cpu run computation intens job depend idl cpu not do multitask oss loop thi loop goto loop goto loop cpu not work process instruct asic and digit design not cpu design that fpu not us cach not access chip buffer driver idl multipli isn multipli barrel shifter aren shift microcod isn microcod etc thi mean transistor aren switch mean power dissip cmo mean heat understand pentium shut section cpu aren us order cut heat power denni lou yossarian thought that dlou ucsd edu crazi backbon ucsd dlou dlou ucsd bitnet steve job and steve wozniak high school
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	scsi id hard drive articl apr new brandei edu luoma binah brandei edu write successfulli put scsi and id hard drive system sinc bought seagat id drive and want add comput year gatewai seagat scsi drive scsi control such that doc told not cmo setup hard drive set list not instal and appar scsi control work wonder wonder thi problem rememb help cousin instal second id drive had defin master slave relationship for similar interest scsi boot drive appreci sinc intend instal thi drive asap and not start william barn suranet oper wbarn sura net voic fax disclaim don speak for suranet and don speak for
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	debug hardwar problem suspect extern cach real evid for thi suggest problem bad memori bad motherboard bad cach suggest debug problem turn cach gcc and big program crash time for gcc gave program fatal signal and past complex elvi kermit etc kernel gener protect fault onc session disabl cach suggest and bingo linux stabl rock hasn core dump kernel error cach thi aldi hernandz andrew edu programm paid hour you suppos arrai initi program pearl
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	instal second id drive bill willi willisw willisw eng clemson edu wrote articl darwin sura net wbarn sura net bill barn write recent cousin second intern id drive seagat can model number import and instal vest interest sinc machin bust and us mine fix seagat id forget model number can find can bloodi thing manag drive disconnect not time whenev thing hang bootup never get past system test id control instruct sheet support two drive configur cmo correctli power plug properli even learn master slave relationship that two hd suppos didn pc into and configur jumper properli master slave delet advanc thi practic emerg two paper thi thing for mondai william barn suranet oper wbarn sura net voic fax disclaim don speak for suranet and don speak for told local comput guru that you can thi you perform low level format your exist hard drive and set your system for two hard drive begin word and not find not back add anoth hdd for scoop advanc bill willi not low level format id drive you execut for suppli manufactur bb mail mail version cost nomin fee addit master slave jumper id drive anoth jumper whether slave present cabl not issu long pin pin pin twist swap id cabl pin compon not make assumpt guess assumpt bad cabl and jumper correct and cmo setup correct you fdisk high level format never person found thi necesari perhap wrong data disk not understand your predica you will throw salt your shoulder wear funni cloth and spooki sound chant danc room good luck gordon lang
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	motherboard advic need sourc for motherboard call local store and appear stock motherboard difficult modifi motherboard run mhz simpl replac system clock slower part peter
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	can printer lan mac isi msstate edu mubashir cheema write establish network lan that us printer panason kxp for print receipt and okidata for letter etc thi world thi fundament aspect novel busi wouldn didn live novel print slogan run printer vari type novel network place hundr rtfm captur command printcon pserver and section window manual cover network print you haven bought novel product rephras your question and for inform competitor print rich
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	cmo checksum error articl uaoq ulowel ulowel edu mcook ulowel edu michael cook write recent get cmo checksum error turn comput doesn happen everytim turn can predict happen ami bio and set lost for exampl drive type and password option date and time remain correct can caus thi like reason that your backup batteri fail thi batteri maintain content cmo memori power turn and batteri flakei content cmo will lost and checksum will wrong cmo data replac batteri your doesn us batteri larg capacitor power cmo you check you can replac capacitor normal lithium batteri thi isn make you leav your for half hour hour each dai thi will capacitor charg opt for batteri chang that rogu problem even viru corrupt cmo your batteri viru scanner and check your system
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	gatewai flash bio upgrad articl apr utxvm utexa edu dcoleman utxvm utexa edu daniel coleman write gatewai releas flash bio updat for local bu system such nice person upload wuarchiv wustl edu for glb ex msdo upload section enjoi question gain thi bio can save copi bio case want back instal bio enjoi answer bill volz chevron petroleum technolog earth model interpret analysi divis box habra phone fax
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	advic guf psuvm psu edu write clone want run game want bui game requir game tech support game will run digit graphic make run slow card game hoyl classic card game digit graphic photo artwork game fiction card player can speed thi game run short motherboard upgrad processor acceler card mimick can run mhz advic greatli appreci upgrad cost coprocessor acceler card cost that fear merger gsbg uxa cso uiuc edu
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	question setup video projector for vga ask design video aid system for teacher show student work round window peopl video projector set and larg size monitor thrir displai for present told that wai connect video projector composit rgb can explain and like cost for each telnet kermit for window repli amil bulletin internet account sparc ncu edu tim chen
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	diamond stealth diamond stealth vram card older version dip switch back two problem lost manual machin network card and work fine run window network connect di case import network card smc arcnet bit compat card address and ram base address irq file diamond bboard that explain sort thi manual don bboard number you can send diamond bb number mail post dip switch set for card fax wrong can magicli work appreci advanc red
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	ati ultra pro and bit window driver work articl emx reza magellan utexa edu alireza vali write bought gatewai system meg ati ultra pro video card work fine for window driver for bit and and bit mode font and icon start deterior window startup and minut us screen total unintellig natur call gatewai tech support inquir thi technician ask driver and told version build told that and bit driver for thi pure bull had bit mode and work sinc version bld ad bit option flexpanel get driver ftp cica indiana edu wuarchiv ati ultra pro simpli not work thi true simpli amaz thi strang thing expect discuss subject made faq gatewai local bu meg ram scsi rom ultrastor local bu scsi control ati ultra pro local bu vram do window mach driver version build mine gatewai meg ram id ati gup instal upgrad bld driver cannon lobbi
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	soundblast irq and port set articl shaman tek andrew frip tek andrew klossner wrote lpt disk control call devic devic that requir exclus interrupt ownership disk control and keyboard devic that not requir exclus ownership will share interrupt anoth devic lpt standard isa bu that almost laptop pc us two separ interfac card cannot share interrupt thi due screwup bu design for exampl your soundblast drive interrupt number hold bu wire time depend whether not interrupt thi preclud let anoth card assert interrupt number two devic isa bu share interrupt implement singl card interest you care explain soundblast pro card and printer card share irq successfulli assur you that set irq and that problem comput dtk ibm clone paul bartholomew pdb ipl jpl nasa gov
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware	scsi id hard drive articl apr new brandei edu wbarn sura net bill barn write successfulli put scsi and id hard drive system sinc bought seagat id drive and want add comput year gatewai seagat scsi drive scsi control such that doc told not cmo setup hard drive set list not instal and appar scsi control work wonder wonder thi problem rememb help cousin instal second id drive had defin master slave relationship for similar interest scsi boot drive appreci sinc intend instal thi drive asap and not start id mfm and scsi drive for year id and scsi system and id scsi disk and scsi cdrom scsi card futur domain western digit scsi card and work adapt recal card can support boot and floppi drive us control id mfm boot drive id mfm you can not boot scsi you control system you gui drive id scsi set id your cmo setup make you can boot set scsi control irq dma etc set scsi drive plug and plai for card you drive you driver for drive and you question email will answer good luck william
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